To think perhaps he deserved getting punched??

[Blouseybiggal]

Tricky one as far as I’m concerned - violence bad but this guy was being a homophobic dick so…

Friend’s brother is a bit of an arsehole, winds people up, thinks he’s funny. I have as little to do with him as possible as he’s a right wing type who always thinks he’s right and could start an argument in an empty room.

So, Jeff is in a bar with his girlfriend. A gay couple - one ‘girlie’ one more masc looking ( apparently) - stand near them at the bar ordering drinks, minding their own biz.

Jeff, loud enough for half the bar to hear, says ‘ I don’t get it. If you’re going to go for someone who looks like a man, why not just go out with a man’ at the couple.

The ‘girlie’ woman says ‘what did you say?’ To him, he repeats it, and she punches him in the face. He falls over, his girlfriend is outraged, the gay couple leave.

For what it’s worth, I’m genuinely surprised he doesn’t get thumped more often.

YANBU - he deserved that! Homophobic prick.

YABU - he’s entitled to his opinion, violence is never the answer.

Well luckily he went down so he couldn’t retaliate, and rightly or wrongly I can’t see a bar full of people letting him do that.
Good for her.

I think he sounds abhorrent

But I don't agree that he should have been punched

I think the bar staff/bouncers/pub should have handled it, kicked him out and barred him

So he fucked around and found out.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. He deserved to get punched.

Good point, which makes her punch even sweeter.

I wouldn't normally condone violence but in this case I'll make an exception. He sounds like an absolute gobshite. Hopefully it might teach him a lesson but I somehow doubt it.

He should not have made that comment. Kind of stupid!
but totally wrong for the other person to assault him. I hope this punched jerk presses charges.
you can’t just punch someone if you don’t like/agree with what they said. That’s outrageous. If that’s allowed, where does it end? Again, the comment should not have been said, but physical assault is illegal.
how are people here okay with punching people over a comment?? It’s outrageous! (Again, stupid idiot for saying what he said, but still)

Id preferred it if she gave a witty retort or his GF had thrown a drink over him in disgust & publicly dumped him. It would be sad if the lady ended up on assault or manslaughter charges because of that dickhead. I guess she judged correctly he was unlikely to retaliate, while he misjudged that a women wouldn't hit him and I hope it makes him think twice about voicing his awful opinions in future but I doubt it

His girlfriends not lovely why would you be with someone who talks like that as it's bad enough said in private but to purposely upset strangers is nasty. Given that she was angry and pushing to go after the couple rather than having zero sympathy for him, does suggest she also shares his views.

He might not have made a similar comment to a gay male couple, but plenty of people do. Usually backed up by a bunch of sneering mates, but even so, they're not immune to comments like this, sadly.

Meh 🤷🏻‍♀️ I mean if you’re going to wander around gratuitously offending people then at some point you are going to get a punch in the mouth.

He sounds absolutely awful. I would refuse to have anything to do with such a person.

I voted YANBU because he fucked around and found out- sometimes if you’re a rude, nasty prick people react negatively towards you.

Generally I don’t like violence at all and can’t even watch fictional violence.

I can't really CARE as clearly he walked away from this as you're not saying there were ambulance called etc. Violence isn't the answer for rationally solving something, but then a rational human wouldn't need such a bunch of shite to fall out of their face, as said his choice to fuck around and find out . OR If he's too dumb to not understand human attraction is very individualistic wtf can you do? Does he need supervision when handling social situations?

I didn’t vote. Jeff is a twat and homophobia is never okay but neither is violence imo.

He's a arsehole, and his girlfriend is not "lovely," she's part of the problem. She's his apologist/enabler/defender.

You know the saying: if 9 people sit down at a table with 1 Nazi without protest, then there are 10 Nazis at the table.

She is happy to go along with his shitty comments, and even wants to go after the person who actually did something to protest against them.

They should have recorded the conversation, called the police and had him arrested.

What on earth are you talking about?

Are we not allowed to even ask questions now?

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm in the "violence is just as dumb as the original idiot" camp. Sure, I've wanted to punch people - men and women - in the past, but somehow I've managed to restrain myself and find another way to make them look like absolute morons instead.

‘You know the saying: if 9 people sit down at a table with 1 Nazi without protest, then there are 10 Nazis at the table.’

what? That’s NOT a saying I’ve ever heard of!

‘They should have recorded the conversation, called the police and had him arrested.’

pretty sure it all happened within 30 seconds or so, no time to whip out phones and start recording even if anyone had thought of it!

Anyway, they’ve left - they don’t live in our town, just visiting - so the chances of anyone tracking anyone down are probably slim.

Another one here who would vote for the third option.

There are people I vehemently disagree with. I find their views repulsive and offensive.

I also would like to think in a civilised society we've moved past violence as a way of dealing with those we don't agree with.

Nope don't agree with the punch. He could have been seriously injured or died from that.

I think the girl could have thought of something else.
Perhaps better if the manager had asked him to leave.

He was assaulted.
He could have defended himself before he was struck and decked 'her' first. How would that have gone down with the 'He had it coming', crowd on here?
Or is hurty words a good enough reason to assault someone, so long as the one being assaulted is a bloke or, God forbid, expressing right wing opinions?

Did he deserve it? Yes.

Is this going to make him less homophobic and misogynistic in future? Or more hateful? Maybe more hateful inside but less likely to make those kind of comments in public? Probably will just hide away and make them anonymously online instead. Is that better? Maybe a bit? I don't know.

Seconded!

YABU. An unpleasant bigoted comment is not equal to physical violence.

People should be allowed to speak their minds (even if wrong) without the risk of being assaulted - and as previous posters mentioned, being put at risk of brain damage.

WORDS ARE NEVER JUSTIFICATION FOR VIOLENCE.

Provocation is a defence at law.

On the other hand, he'll have to explain to the magistrate exactly how belligerent and abusive he was being and that the 'girlie' one chinned him.

I'd buy tickets for that.