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To think perhaps he deserved getting punched??

265 replies

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 11:33

Tricky one as far as I’m concerned - violence bad but this guy was being a homophobic dick so…

Friend’s brother is a bit of an arsehole, winds people up, thinks he’s funny. I have as little to do with him as possible as he’s a right wing type who always thinks he’s right and could start an argument in an empty room.

So, Jeff is in a bar with his girlfriend. A gay couple - one ‘girlie’ one more masc looking ( apparently) - stand near them at the bar ordering drinks, minding their own biz.

Jeff, loud enough for half the bar to hear, says ‘ I don’t get it. If you’re going to go for someone who looks like a man, why not just go out with a man’ at the couple.

The ‘girlie’ woman says ‘what did you say?’ To him, he repeats it, and she punches him in the face. He falls over, his girlfriend is outraged, the gay couple leave.

For what it’s worth, I’m genuinely surprised he doesn’t get thumped more often.

YANBU - he deserved that! Homophobic prick.

YABU - he’s entitled to his opinion, violence is never the answer.

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JemimaTiggywinkles · 13/03/2024 13:01

The girlfriend can't be that lovely if she doesn't realise that her boyfriend is entirely responsible for the reaction after his abusive comments.

100% disagree with this. The person who threw the punch is the person responsible for that action.

The homophobic dickhead should have been asked to leave, not punched.

BobbyBiscuits · 13/03/2024 13:02

If the guy had been an elderly woman, would it be as funny that they were punched? He was a twat and obviously wants a reaction. He certainly got one. Hopefully he's learned his lesson. The puncher needs to control their fists and defend themselves with words though.

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 13:02

‘@Blouseybiggal so why does she want to track down the puncher, then?’

Because violence is never the answer etc.

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NotestoSelf · 13/03/2024 13:03

Violence isn't the answer. On the other hand, maybe someone that dopey and offensive needed his learning experience couched in terms of a broken nose?

I mean, would the same rightwing homophobe have made the same type of loud comment to a gay male couple, one of whom is a giant musclebound type wearing knuckledusters, and one of whom presents in a less stereotypically masculine way?

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 13:04

NotestoSelf · 13/03/2024 13:03

Violence isn't the answer. On the other hand, maybe someone that dopey and offensive needed his learning experience couched in terms of a broken nose?

I mean, would the same rightwing homophobe have made the same type of loud comment to a gay male couple, one of whom is a giant musclebound type wearing knuckledusters, and one of whom presents in a less stereotypically masculine way?

No. I don’t think he would. He’s not very big.

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Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 13:11

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 13:02

‘@Blouseybiggal so why does she want to track down the puncher, then?’

Because violence is never the answer etc.

She sounds as bad as him. That’d why she’s with him. A pair of twats.

shenandoahvalley · 13/03/2024 13:19

I'm at an age, and there's so much awfulness going on in the world, that I can't muster up adequate emotions to care about one bigoted prick in a pub. Let him be punched, let him not be punched, he's not the point. The gay couple are probably completely sick and tired of people like this man, just like everyone else suffering at the hands of others right now. He suffered natural consequences. I hope others do too. They might learn not to be dicks.

AttaThat · 13/03/2024 13:21

Im in the “he’s a dick but violence is not the answer” camp.

To be honest, I would class the girlfriend a big issue here. Because it’s the “lovely” people who go around defending the bigots, who enable those bigots. If he was dumped as soon as he said something homophobic, that would be much more likely to change his views (or at least the expression of them) than being punched. If she’s still dating him, then she doesn’t really think what he says is all that bad. And you all think she’s lovely…

Hollowgast · 13/03/2024 13:23

Classic case of FAFO. I find in favour of the puncher 👩‍⚖️

LakieLady · 13/03/2024 13:23

Verv · 13/03/2024 11:38

Theres something satisfying about bullies getting exactly what they deserve.

Especially when the bullying is both homophobic and misogynist, and the puncher is a woman.

In principle, I abhor violence, but he really deserved that.

Verv · 13/03/2024 13:27

moonresident · 13/03/2024 12:23

I really hate the way any prejudice is described as a phobia.
It's not a phobia at all, it's an intolerance or hate but phobia it is not.

And yet.

To think perhaps he deserved getting punched??
Snazzysausage · 13/03/2024 13:27

Well obviously one can't condone violence in any way, but .....
That is indeed a very satisfying story of comeuppance and reaping what you sow.
Description is first class too.

QueenMegan · 13/03/2024 13:27

Did anyone clap?

deydododatdodontdeydo · 13/03/2024 13:28

I wouldn't punch anyone myself, but it sounds like the only language he would understand.
If they'd got him kicked out he'd be telling everyone how unfairly he'd been treated.
Dick.

Maray1967 · 13/03/2024 13:28

Wenttomowameadow · 13/03/2024 11:53

I think he deserved it but at the same time it's a bad idea to punch anyone. I saw a documentary once on how one well placed punch can kill or brain damage. You don't want that on your conscience over a stupid comment. You could just walk away and suggest to the bar tender he's banned.

Or you could throw your drink in his face, which would have been my response. Probably still technically an assault, but doesn’t carry the risk of a punch.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/03/2024 13:28

fedupandstuck · 13/03/2024 11:40

You need a third option - he is not entitled to be homophobic towards others, and violence is not the answer.

Quite!!!!!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/03/2024 13:29

Actually, I would find the woman's behaviour unacceptable and would call the po,ice

merlotmerlin · 13/03/2024 13:30

Any bloke going into a pub and being loud, and insulting is intending to provoke a reaction in some way. That is why he did it - to get a reaction and be the centre of attention.
It worked, wins for everyone.

It would have set the ladies up for when they got home😃

nightmareXmas · 13/03/2024 13:30

It's never OK to punch someone unless you are defending yourself from physical violence. It's assault, and therefore a crime.

If it's the case that the woman who punched him was just sick of hearing homophobic comments all the time, then it's awful that she has to experience that, but still no excuse. A few rehearsed one-liners would be a more effective riposte in that situation, or just rise above it.

AliceToTheWitchElm · 13/03/2024 13:31

As a gay female in a femme/butch relationship I'd have loved to have seen this! I hope he's learned his lesson. Neither of us would have done it, my partner would've probably laughed but I'd have challenged him and if things got heated I'd have walked away. But he deserved it for being an utter prick.

pontipinemum · 13/03/2024 13:32

There have to have been better ways to deal with it. No I wouldn't condone her punching him. Even though I don't have much sympathy for him.

She would have been better saying something to him, or the bar manager.

AliceToTheWitchElm · 13/03/2024 13:33

Hollowgast · 13/03/2024 13:23

Classic case of FAFO. I find in favour of the puncher 👩‍⚖️

I also like the phrase 'One's mouth writing cheques that one's arse can't cash'.

LakieLady · 13/03/2024 13:34

Maray1967 · 13/03/2024 13:28

Or you could throw your drink in his face, which would have been my response. Probably still technically an assault, but doesn’t carry the risk of a punch.

Now that would be a shocking waste of a perfectly good drink.

Throwing his drink in his face, on the other hand ...

fedupandstuck · 13/03/2024 13:35

@JemimaTiggywinkles well, he is responsible for the reaction, regardless of what the reaction was, because he inserted himself into someone else's day - he chose to interact with them, and chose to be abusive. The girl who reacted would never have had to, if he had kept his stupidity to himself. He was the instigator, she was reactive. He isn't in control of how she reacts, but he most definitely was the instigator of the interaction and wanted a reaction of some sort from them.

TheFireflies · 13/03/2024 13:38

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 13:02

‘@Blouseybiggal so why does she want to track down the puncher, then?’

Because violence is never the answer etc.

Right, so what’s she going to do if she tracked her down? Give her a stern talking to? How does she think that would go?

I’m sorry but she’s not lovely and I’d have no respect for her either, the idiot.