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To think perhaps he deserved getting punched??

265 replies

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 11:33

Tricky one as far as I’m concerned - violence bad but this guy was being a homophobic dick so…

Friend’s brother is a bit of an arsehole, winds people up, thinks he’s funny. I have as little to do with him as possible as he’s a right wing type who always thinks he’s right and could start an argument in an empty room.

So, Jeff is in a bar with his girlfriend. A gay couple - one ‘girlie’ one more masc looking ( apparently) - stand near them at the bar ordering drinks, minding their own biz.

Jeff, loud enough for half the bar to hear, says ‘ I don’t get it. If you’re going to go for someone who looks like a man, why not just go out with a man’ at the couple.

The ‘girlie’ woman says ‘what did you say?’ To him, he repeats it, and she punches him in the face. He falls over, his girlfriend is outraged, the gay couple leave.

For what it’s worth, I’m genuinely surprised he doesn’t get thumped more often.

YANBU - he deserved that! Homophobic prick.

YABU - he’s entitled to his opinion, violence is never the answer.

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VictoriaPink · 13/03/2024 12:14

Let's just think for a moment about whether he would have made the same kind of comment to a male gay couple.

I'm guessing not. Because he'd be scared he might get punched.

He felt OK making it to people who he thought were physically weaker than him, though. What a lovely person he must be.

QueenCamilla · 13/03/2024 12:20

"Blows on grazed knuckles. Reaches for the hem of her flour-covered Boden pinny and wipes bloody snot off hands. Returns to homemade banana bread and muffins".

Mumsnet's gone feral.

dcsp · 13/03/2024 12:22

I wouldn't condone violence, but I'm not going to shed a tear for him either.

Hereyoume · 13/03/2024 12:22

And if a woman had said the same about two gay men, and one of the men had punched the woman, would you all be rushing to the man's defence?

moonresident · 13/03/2024 12:23

I really hate the way any prejudice is described as a phobia.
It's not a phobia at all, it's an intolerance or hate but phobia it is not.

Codlingmoths · 13/03/2024 12:24

BMW6 · 13/03/2024 11:39

I'm glad it was the "girlie" one who punched him!

Me too! If someone had to punch someone, I’d say this was the best possible of all worlds.

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 12:27

‘Why didn’t the pub kick the homophobic dickhead out?’

From what I have heard from friend the couple immediately left, followed shortly after by Jeff & his girlfriend. It was daytime, I have no idea of how busy it or who was or wasn’t around but it seems he didn’t get much sympathy and a least 2 people laughed.
His girlfriend is furious, thinks they should try to track the puncher down etc. he wants to leave it.

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PickAChew · 13/03/2024 12:29

If someone is going to go around being an obnoxious gobshite, there will come a time when they're an obnoxious gobshite to the wrong person.

hellsBells246 · 13/03/2024 12:30

I have no sympathy for him. He got what he deserved.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...

And his girlfriend's an idiot.

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 12:30

‘Firstly, I don't like your descriptive terms in your OP ('girlie'; 'masc')’

this is how they were described to me by friend and they were described to her as ‘butch’ and ‘girlie’ by his girlfriend.
The girlfriend is lovely, a nurse and no-one understands why she is with him! He must have hidden depths no-one else can see.
Others who have heard about this have also said they’re surprised it doesn’t happen more often.

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fedupandstuck · 13/03/2024 12:34

The girlfriend can't be that lovely if she doesn't realise that her boyfriend is entirely responsible for the reaction after his abusive comments. Why isn't she furious at him for being a total dick?

EcstaticMarmalade · 13/03/2024 12:34

Epitome of FAFO

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 12:37

‘Why isn't she furious at him for being a total dick?’

She is. She constantly apologies for him. Her take is that he says half of what he says to debate with people, without really meaning it. He’s sort of in politics - in a non-elected non-influential way non-famous way.

I don’t think in a million years he would ever hit someone, not even in retaliation, he’s more a psychological bully type, so I doubt he thought he would get punched.

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Caerulea · 13/03/2024 12:38

Hereyoume · 13/03/2024 12:22

And if a woman had said the same about two gay men, and one of the men had punched the woman, would you all be rushing to the man's defence?

Gosh, that's 3 villages now.

EcstaticMarmalade · 13/03/2024 12:42

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 12:37

‘Why isn't she furious at him for being a total dick?’

She is. She constantly apologies for him. Her take is that he says half of what he says to debate with people, without really meaning it. He’s sort of in politics - in a non-elected non-influential way non-famous way.

I don’t think in a million years he would ever hit someone, not even in retaliation, he’s more a psychological bully type, so I doubt he thought he would get punched.

Not furious enough to dump him though.

GettingStuffed · 13/03/2024 12:43

If he was my boyfriend he'd immediately become an ex

fedupandstuck · 13/03/2024 12:43

@Blouseybiggal so why does she want to track down the puncher, then? Clearly it was an assault, but he made the decision to antagonise people minding their own business and direct some abusive comments at them.

He's clearly one of those "devils advocates" type twats who enjoys hiding behind the cry of "it's just a debate!" in order to say things that are sexist/racist/homophobic or similar.

Americano75 · 13/03/2024 12:44

Ah, he fucked around and found out. Whoops a daisy.

80skid · 13/03/2024 12:49

Obviously it's wrong to go round punching people, even if they are really awful. That said, I did enjoy the story especially the "girl" doing the punching.
I would love for one of my relatives to be on the receiving end of such summary justice. Sounds like a similar character, homophobic and delighting in bullying and making people feel uncomfortable.
Unfortunately, if he's homophobic, being on the receiving end of a punch from a gay man is going to reinforce his hatred rather than make him see the error of his ways.

Jeannne92 · 13/03/2024 12:50

Give the punchy woman a medal !

TempleOfBloom · 13/03/2024 12:51

He deserved it, but that doesn’t mean it was an OK thing to do: it wasn’t
And
He is entitled to his opinion but not to impose it unasked for by others in a display of homophobia.

He is an absolute twat.

LightSwerve · 13/03/2024 12:52

fedupandstuck · 13/03/2024 11:40

You need a third option - he is not entitled to be homophobic towards others, and violence is not the answer.

This.

Bbq1 · 13/03/2024 12:53

Problem is the incident has probably meant he hates lesbians more than ever now. It would have been better if she had calmy given him an answer to his "question', embarrassed him in the process. She might have even educated him that way.

SausageRoll2020 · 13/03/2024 12:58

fedupandstuck · 13/03/2024 11:40

You need a third option - he is not entitled to be homophobic towards others, and violence is not the answer.

This ☝🏻

EarringsandLipstick · 13/03/2024 12:59

QueenCamilla · 13/03/2024 12:20

"Blows on grazed knuckles. Reaches for the hem of her flour-covered Boden pinny and wipes bloody snot off hands. Returns to homemade banana bread and muffins".

Mumsnet's gone feral.

Brilliant! 'reaches for the hem of her flour-covered Boden pinny' - fantastic.

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