Why is being successful frowned upon by most on Mumsnet

[Teenangels]

I have been/seen on some threads that people, are negative towards those that have become successful, children go to private school means the kids are entitled.

Why can't we celebrate that some people get lucky with an idea, take risks, work incredibly hard and pay their fair share on taxes.

I have seen people demand that the OP gives their profits to charity without even knowing what the OP gives to charity.

We need to celebrate all in society.

Is it??

This is aibu - everyone hates everyone who has money! I thought that was just standard MN AIBU.

Its the double standards that I hate.

They really don't. People just get ticked off when those with money moan about how skint they are when they don't really know the meaning of skint.

I don't hate myself! People with success should be gracious. Moaning about insufficient praise is the limit.

where have a moaned about insufficient praise, I said that we should celebrate everyone.

Its the double standards that are staggering.

That is a huge assumption how do you know that someone with money has always had money.

Would you say that someone claiming benefits is always going to be on benefits.

Can you not see the double standards. A one size fits all mentality.

If someone with money has been in a position with no money before they wouldn't be moaning about being skint. Stop with all the woe is me nonsense and needing praise and validation. I'm a lone parent working full time and brought up my child alone with no help. I don't need or want praising for it, I just bloody get on with it. It's life, we all do it.

I'm not anti money, just anti private schools

Where is my woe is me nonsense not posted anything like woe is me. The only one who is moaning is you being a single parent with no help. I have mentioned that is was luck and bloody hard work to get to where we are. Yet people think its ok to be nasty,

I was responding to the poster that said people that have money have no idea what it is like to be living hand to mouth.

Can you not see the double standards are just blinkered go and read the AMA that was mentioned and you maybe enlightened

Take care

I think there's usually a window to become successful as an entrepreneur and it depends on when your ambitions or ideas strike you.

If you have your children very young, then the window shrinks because the DC have to be your focus for at least the first decade so you have to postpone your commitment, and the opportunity may pass.

If you have a long hours physical job, then you might not have sufficient energy after 9 hours of arduous work to start a new business or study for a different career. Not many people who have worked unsocial hard physical hours as cleaners are starting businesses in their 50s, when their joints starts to hurt. A plumbing company we used 15 years ago (when they were a young two-man band fairly fresh from their apprenticeships) now employs over 100 people.

In general, people create businesses while they are too young to worry about it, because they have years to recover from failure. Richard Branson is the poster boy.

Or they start businesses in their 30s because they are fed up watching someone else trouser the profit from their efforts once they've been working for 10 years (what DH did) and importantly, they also have enough time left to recover from failure in financial terms and don't have dependents (us again). Family life and children are postponed, and a working partner helps a lot.

It's unusual to start a business after 40, because at that age, you tend to decide it's easier to practice your own skill/trade/profession as a sole consultant or self-employed sub-contractor.

Or you could do the academic skills bit and climb your industry's greasy pole.

Hairdressers and beauticians are the classic female entrepreneurs. They are capable and congenial and organised. And generally they keep their ambitions quite local. My hairdresser has created three successful businesses over the 15 years I've known her: my first beautician took a risk on buying out a business at 22, and the current one set up her own salon after seeing the success that her employer had made of it. None of them is rich rich, but their businesses all earn enough to be VAT registered.

IME women with children rarely start businesses. You have children once the business is up and running.

Are you anti tutors?

@Beezknees

They really don't. People just get ticked off when those with money moan about how skint they are when they don't really know the meaning of skint

But it's all relative isn't it.

Most people on MN who think they know what 'really skint' is would be laughed at by people living in America who are poor and have no access to health care so see their loved ones die. Or kids in the Philippines who live on rubbish tips and forage for survival.
Yeah. They'd be looking at you thinking you are living a life of luxury.

@Itscatsallthewaydown

Nurses take ‘zero risk’?! Fuck right off. Life and death decisions every day.

Good grief. You really don't understand do you. I mean risk with their own life. Risk by starting a business and having the risk of becoming destitute. Losing everything. Not making decisions at work. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Many people who have made a lot of money took risks in life.

That's a stupid comparison because this is a UK website, with people discussing life in the UK.

@Willyoujustbequiet

A nurse saving lives and offering comfort or a teacher inspiring generations is far more of a successful person in my book.

No one suggested they aren't. This thread is about money. Not who has the most honourable profession.

Most poster applaud the worker in the profession you named, and I work as one

Are you also a single parent? Do you have a child with disabilities? Do you support an elderly adult or one with a disability? Have you struggled for money only to have someone on here tell you that the answer is a better job, that you should have worked harder at school, that you're not independent if you receive even Child Benefit, that you're 'benefit scum'? Cod I've hung around here for years, under various needs, and have experienced all of that, multiple times.

I have 2 children with ASC with my husband,

This is going to be outing but I was a single parent before I met my husband.

I have also cared for my Mum who had dementia along with my Dad.

As I have said its not a race to the bottom.

Well I think that’s debatable- I think the thread has a broader scope than that. The OP’s title doesn’t mention money but ‘success’.

The OP then went on to make it clear that to her, success and wealth are synonymous, but to many of us ‘success’ has a wider meaning than that.

I know quite a few people who are earning peanuts but who I nonetheless see as making a success of their lives because they are doing well at keeping multiple plates spinning in extremely challenging circumstances (for reasons that have already been mentioned numerous times- difficult start in life/lack of opportunity/single parenthood/disability or long-term illness/mental illness/caring responsibilities…) Those people should be celebrated as successful but their success has nothing to do with their earnings.

I have not seen one person on here say that you are a benefit scrounger for claiming Child benefit a benefit that a family could earn 99k a year claim, please provide a link.....

Has any poster ever been told that because they have not contributed to the state they cant use the NHS, a previous poster was told that she should not have given birth in a NHS hospital because the family earned too much and was taking resources away for those less well off, can you not see the double standards.

Where did I say that wealth and success is measured in wealth, I said that no one should be judgmental.

Which your posts have been, because you have jumped to conclusions, you have yet to answer my post about disability, single parenthood.

@Waitingfordoggo the success referred to is obviously focused on money as the thread title is literally why do people frown upon success. No one is frowning upon the things you value as success

@Beezknees

That's a stupid comparison because this is a UK website, with people discussing life in the UK.

Huh??? Did you seriously think everyone on MN is living in the UK? You haven't been here long have you.