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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Do you think children have a duty to help out elderly parents?

192 replies

Kendodd · 06/03/2024 18:48

YANBU = yes they do
YABU = no they don't

Lots of threads on here recently about this and also about asking grandparents to babysit. General view (that I seem to be picking up) is they GP have no reason to help out with GC, even as a one off/emergency but children should help elderly parents.

OP posts:
Synergies · 06/03/2024 20:32

This very much depends on culture & tradition too.

Goforitagain · 06/03/2024 20:33

We helped a bit with DM like got her shopping, went to the tip, bit of DIY, stuff like that, she looked after DS a lot when he was young. PIL always had an excuse not to see DS so we never helped them at all. I wouldn't expect DS to help us as he doesn't live near and we never have any reason to help him

SecretKeeper1 · 06/03/2024 20:35

My lovely MIL cared for her mother for over twenty years, the old dear didn’t die until she was almost 100, a year before MIL’s 80th. MIL is now too old/ill to enjoy any of the nice things she had planned when she retired in her late 50s. So sad as once upon a time she had so many dreams and now she’s basically a shell.

MintyCedric · 06/03/2024 20:36

BruFord · 06/03/2024 19:50

@MintyCedric Your balanced approach sounds very healthy. I have to keep some boundaries with my Dad, he views me as his emotional rock and dumps all his problems on me, which can be hard. He’s elderly and not very well though.

@BruFord tbh I learned it the hard way.

My dad was put on the end of life pathway two weeks into the first lockdown and passed away 15 month later of ‘frailty of old age’.

It was the darkest time of my life, not because of my dad but because of my mums complete inability to cope and denial of the reality of the situation, and an incredibly unsupportive employer. I’d have taken Dad and had him living with me in a heartbeat if I could have.

Equally I’m pretty certain that doing the same for my mum would actually kill me.

I was forced into took a 9 month unpaid sabbatical from work, went back for a month and started having panic attacks, spent two further years as Mum’s carer and doing a bit of freelance work. Last spring I was diagnosed with PTSD, GAD and Panic Disorder.

I had counselling and am finally back at work full time in a job I love…I’m not sacrificing that again.

Goforitagain · 06/03/2024 20:36

All our parents are dead now so we don't have to help at all

tellstales · 06/03/2024 20:37

I haven't read the thread but I'd hate to be a burden on my children. I'd much rather go in to a nursing home or off myself than ruin their lives or impinge on their freedoms.

user1471434829 · 06/03/2024 20:37

My parents have been so kind and supportive of me and my brother for our whole lives, we all live within 30 mins of each other. In my opinion I would be an absolute disgrace of a human if I didn't do my best to help them in their old age.

Would I quit my job to care for them 24/7? No. Neither me nor them would want that. But I will happily help them evenings/weekends, do shopping, take them appointments, help them with admin, make sure they are receiving good care, help pay towards their care etc.

I think it depends on the relationship whether you should feel obligated to help (And if you are able) also comes into it.

NImumconfused · 06/03/2024 20:42

My mum was very much of the mind that families should look after their own until her MIL moved in for 5 years after falling and breaking her hip. It was hard going and after that she did change her tune a bit, and her own mother did spend some time in a care home before she died.

To be fair, I think it was the right choice. Both grannies were, shall we say, quite stubborn and opinionated, and not the easiest people to live with. Not living with her meant all her kids kept a good natured relationship with their mum, and between them and the grandkids she had someone from the family visit every day till she died. She loved showing off her great grandkids to the other ladies!

I will happily help support my parents to stay at home for as long as I can, but there will be limits, and at that point I will help them find somewhere that can give them the 24/7 care they need - as one person I can't provide that. FIL has recently moved into a lovely care home and is enjoying the good food and the company immensely, having lived alone for 20 years or so til now. But you do need money to be able to find somewhere like that, the ones the NHS put him in for rehab after hospital stays were grim.

Fernsfernsferns · 06/03/2024 20:42

EarringsandLipstick · 06/03/2024 20:16

Assuming your adult children will turn their lives upside down to accommodate your lack of planning for the likely / inevitable need for help near the end of life is harsh.

Who said that though?

I commented on a PP's point that parents should simply plan better.

I agree with your comments, and the differentiation between help & care

Fair enough.

ive read a few threads recently though where an elderly parent is becoming unsafe in a too big house.

adult daughter that lives a few hours journey away and has a jobs an children of her own posts here asking for support.

and many replies tell her it’s cruel and heartless to try to get the parent to move nearer or into a care home.

yet the burden on her to give them what the parent wants- her support to live and die in their long term home - could only be given if she turns her own life upside down.

maybe leave / loose her job. Put pressure on her relationship, not support her children as well as she wants / they need. Or ruin her own health and well being trying to do all the above.

its selfish to put your adult children in that position.

Snugglemonkey · 06/03/2024 20:42

I agree that children owe parents nothing. Yabu.

Crazycrazylady · 06/03/2024 20:46

Kendodd · 06/03/2024 18:59

My view - children owe their parents nothing. The children didn't ask to be born, parents didn't have to have them, they chose to bring more human beings into the world just because they wanted to. But parents do have a duty to their children and this doesn't just end at 18. This isn't to say GP should give up work to be full time carers for GC either, just that things are much harder for young people now so we should help them were we can.

My age, for context, mid 50s, young adult/late teen children, elderly parents. I never recieved a single day of help with my children from my parents (nor would I have left my children with them though if they had offered). I don't/won't help my parents. They live other end of country anyway.

Gosh you sound delightful and not a bit entitledConfused

ChristmasCwtch · 06/03/2024 20:49

I’ll be doing precisely zero elder care.

Neither side has helped one iota with our DC. We’ve managed everything between DH and me and hiring a nanny and babysitters etc.

I can’t wait to look after any future grandchildren!! Grandparents can look after themselves.

Panpastels · 06/03/2024 20:51

No, and neither are parents obligated to look after their grandchildren. My parents have never babysat and I won't be caring for them either.

Pussygaloregalapagos · 06/03/2024 20:52

Yes. Absolutely. We live in a mutually dependant and supportive society. We should help those that need it. Starting with our elderly relatives and neighbours and hope the welfare state can help those with no family. If we have family though, yes I think it is our duty to help them.

Owl55 · 06/03/2024 20:54

Marblessolveeverything · 06/03/2024 19:04

Nobody should do things because of duty in my opinion.

I cared for my mum up to her death alongside my siblings, because she was our amazing mum. She always did what she could for us, while respecting us as adults. It was a privilege to look after her.

This❤️

EmmaGrundyForPM · 06/03/2024 20:55

MIL has never helped with our DC. even when I was in hospital she CBA to come and help.

Fair enough, but I'm buggered if I'm going to help her out now.

bookteafag · 06/03/2024 20:55

Children owe the parents nothing true but when the child has children the child thinks the parents owe them free child care when they ask.

singleagainn · 06/03/2024 20:57

Noicant · 06/03/2024 19:01

I think it’s more whether they were good parents to you that matters. Thats what would motivate me, not whether they babysat for me.

I agree with this, it’s how your parents brought you up, nothing to do with childcare. My mum was always clear that she had done her childcare and didn’t want to be childcare for grandchildren. That didn’t mean that she didn’t enjoy being a gran and having a lovely relationship with them. When she was ill, I took care of her and it was a privilege to do so. I really don’t understand the entitlement of some people, particularly on mumsnet, believing that GP owe them childcare.

millymoo1202 · 06/03/2024 20:58

I won’t be, my Mum wasn’t interested in us as children and showed zero interest in us as adults. Often wonder why she had 3 children, she wonders now why no one bothers with her, quite sad really. I do my duty visit every few months but that’s it, sounds harsh I know but yju can’t write off 50 years of being a ru bush parent

canttellyouwhereorwhatido · 06/03/2024 20:58

If they were good to you then be good to them .. only you know where that line lays

ALunchbox · 06/03/2024 20:59

No, I absolutely do not expect my DC to look after me in my old age. They're free to live their lives. I will not be a burden.

I will help my parents if they need me. Not because I have to or because they want me to, but because I want to.

Justcallmebebes · 06/03/2024 20:59

Wellhellooooodear · 06/03/2024 19:12

Only on mumsnet do grandparents not babysit and people don't help out their family in general. It's actually pretty depressing if this is really the case for some people and I would have to ask them what the fuck is the point of having a family it this is your attitude?

This. This thread is really depressing

Skibbidino · 06/03/2024 21:00

Families should help each other
But not when there is abuse

canttellyouwhereorwhatido · 06/03/2024 21:01

For example my mother and step dad were excellent in all ways .. so providing help in their older age was an honour .. if they were nasty abusive arsed then ..no

You reap what you sow..

1960swhatshappened · 06/03/2024 21:02

Mumof2NDers · 06/03/2024 19:09

It totally depends on the family dynamic surely?
My DM looked after mine when they were little while I worked FT, I’ll be eternally grateful to her for it and will drop anything and everything if she needs me to.
My late DF was ill for a while before he passed, I’ve done stupid o’clock in the morning rushes to their house when he’s hypo’d and my mum panicked. I’ve spent all night with him in A&E and then gone straight to work. During lockdown I took him for cancer treatment every day for 5 weeks.
My DM doesn’t even need to ask, if she needs to go somewhere I’ll take her.It’s just what we do in our family but I appreciate not every family is the same.

Exactly how I feel. I dropped everything to help my Mum because she was the most selfless lady ever !