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My DH has hidden his true income from me... but why?!

433 replies

PurpleTrees123 · 05/03/2024 14:25

Together 15 years, married 10 years, 2 kids. we are happy. Name changed but regular mnetter.

Short version:
DH salary is £42.5k.
His commission bumped his income up to £97k last year, but he has never mentioned this.
AIBU to think he should have mentioned this at some point?

Long version:
DH basic salary is currently £42.5k. his monthly income only just covers his share
of the bills, so he rarely has any more left to add to savings pots, pay off
the mortgage etc.

My salary is more than DH's. I am a good saver, so I set aside my savings first,
and then decide what to do with the left over. I might save some more, I might
spend.

We have separate finances (I know this divides opinions on here!) We get paid into our own bank accounts, and then transfer a set amount each month to a joint account. All bills are paid from the joint account. We are then left with our
own pots of money to do as we wish.

Generally this has worked well for both of us as I am a good saver, so despite the fact I earn more, I also will save for big ticket items and pay for those.... new
boiler, holiday, big days out, family meals, theatre tickets etc.

I feel confident that this has been an even split over the years. And for many
years, DH took home more than I did.

Today, the post has been delivered and there are several letters in there. As I went through them, there are 3 letters from the Inland Revenue. 2 letters are in small brown envelopes, nothing unusual.

One of the letters was bigger and had a large window where the name and address is. Through the window, I could instantly see the words, Income: £97,000

I can’t unsee this. I didn’t go looking for this. It’s actually shocking how it is so clear. I guess it’s the way the letter has been drafted and folded, and this info just happened to end up in the window and be so visible.

Now I don’t know what to do… only yesterday we were talking about job hunting and he was saying that he needs to earn more money as he doesn’t like feeling like he always owes me money for things (I just paid for a big holiday out of the savings).

He has potential to earn commission in his role, but at no point has he ever alluded to the fact he has doubled his basic income. All this time I am thinking he earns much less than me, and I have been paying for things out of the savings to make things fairer. His car needed a full service and work done recently and I even offered to pay for that. He didn’t take me up.

I can’t think what he has spent his money on. We have 2 nice cars – we pay for these monthly and I know how much this costs. Our children do lots of activities, but again this is all out of the joint account so I know how much these cost.

We hardly eat out. He doesn’t have a shopping habit, we don’t belong to expensive clubs. We both WFH mostly, and spend all weekends together.

If I can save money each month, then how has he ended up with not enough to even contribute to joint holidays, and say he needs a better paid job?!

I recognise we are financially comfortable, and I am not here for a debate on
WHAT we spend our money on. We both pay into pensions.

AIBU in thinking he should have told me his whole income, rather than let me think he only earns his basic salary. I feel a bit of a mug to be honest.

Or is it none of my business? He hasn’t actually lied… I’ve never asked him what he took home last year. But at the same time, I had no idea his earning potential was that high!

OP posts:
YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 05/03/2024 14:26

Clearly he doesn't want to share the extra money! That's a pretty bad sign in a long term committed relationship.

Collywobblewobbles · 05/03/2024 14:27

You're married, of course it's your business

Cazpar · 05/03/2024 14:28

You need to talk to him about it.

All you've seen is "income: £97000".

You don't know what it relates to.

You don't know if it's an error.

You don't know if it's a scam (I work in this field, scam letters appearing to be from HMRC with tax demands are not uncommon).

Sit down with him later and talk to him.

WittyMotherhoodRelatedPun · 05/03/2024 14:29

Could there possibly be some mistake? I know it’s extremely unlikely, but it really does seem very strange if your DH isn’t generally secretive about this stuff. I do realise that stranger things have happened!

(edited because my fat fingers posted too soon)

mealideas2024 · 05/03/2024 14:29

It seems odd that "income" would be so visible. Are you SURE? I mean you've got to talk about it, but this seems very very very weird to me. I have never once had a letter from HMRC or anyone telling me "income: x amount". Even my payslips in the past have shown bits of info, but that's all digital everywhere I've worked.

Mumoftwo1312 · 05/03/2024 14:29

It's absolutely your business as you have joint dependents (your kids).

Take a photo of that envelope window before you speak to him about it.

I'm afraid he's been very sneaky and dishonest and there may be a nasty reason for it

Sharptonguedwoman · 05/03/2024 14:29

Time for the annual family finance meeting. I think you need to ask questions tbh. You both need to be open about things, easier for me to say than you to do, I imagine.

MrsKeats · 05/03/2024 14:30

Of course it's your business!
This is very bad. He hid 55k from you last year alone.

Babsexxx · 05/03/2024 14:31

Yanbu I’d be really upset he’s been pleading poverty whilst you pick up the slack, I’d be livid tbh.

Loonylooops · 05/03/2024 14:32

It's totally your business. Just be honest and show him the front of the letter. If he has been hiding it this is a HUGE problem.

savethatkitty · 05/03/2024 14:32

It's sneaky, sly & deceptive. I'd be well annoyed. I'd also be wondering what else he's been hiding.

PoppyFleur · 05/03/2024 14:33

What a shock OP, you must be quite hurt by finding this out, particularly as you have been shouldering the cost of family holidays and days out.

For context, DH & I have separate accounts and then a joint account that all bills come out of, however, this doesn’t stop us from being completely transparent in financial matters. How can you plan for your family’s future without complete transparency.

It’s time for a frank conversation with your husband, he owes you an explanation and an apology.

Dotjones · 05/03/2024 14:33

Before you think about LTB you ought to try to check your facts. It seems odd that the Inland Revenue would send a letter with the income listed prominently like that.

Mrsttcno1 · 05/03/2024 14:34

This is the problem with separate finances really, if that’s the agreement you have and you have agreed contributions then why would he feel any need to tell you his earnings, as long as he puts his agreed amount into the joint account then that’s his bit done.

I think it’s time for a proper chat about finances in general.

Hopebridge · 05/03/2024 14:34

Lots of fraud around at the moment. HMRC have said about fraudulent post and calls online.

I would talk to him about it and see what he says. It's a lot of money to not show where it has gone. Hopefully you will find a simple explanation.

Shetlands · 05/03/2024 14:34

It wouldn't be unreasonable to say you want to see his tax returns for the last 10 years and show him yours too of course.

I don't see a problem with separate finances but marriage is based on trust and now you've found out he's been deceiving you about his income, that trust is eroded, which is a fundamental problem to your future as a couple.

Cazpar · 05/03/2024 14:35

Dotjones · 05/03/2024 14:33

Before you think about LTB you ought to try to check your facts. It seems odd that the Inland Revenue would send a letter with the income listed prominently like that.

Yes it does. I would be very surprised to get a letter sent in that way.

WhingeInTheWillows · 05/03/2024 14:35

You need to speak to him and find out exactly what’s going on.

LouOver · 05/03/2024 14:36

You need to reframe this is in your mind. If you've paid for all the big ticket items separately to the share pot then he has STOLEN from you.

Also how much extra are you earning because are you claiming child benefit because his earning would mean you need to pay this back?

I'd be fucking furious.

supercalafragilisticexpealidocious · 05/03/2024 14:36

It seems very unlikely that they would print income like that on a letter. So I would check that's actually what it's saying first.

But if it's correct and he earns double what he said he did and is allowing you to pay all big ticket items and pleading poverty then this is betrayal on a grand scale and not something I could move past. He has lied and been deceitful and clearly doesn't see you as part of his team. I would also be questioning whether he sees a future with you since squirrelling away thousands of pounds without telling you indicates he has a get out plan.

AccountantMum · 05/03/2024 14:36

I would be suspicious of a letter which had income visible before opening - is this a real letter?
You have written the figure in £ however in england it would likely be HMRC or his employer which have his annual salary could this just be a spam letter?

MrsKeats · 05/03/2024 14:37

Thing is if he gets commission each year his salary will vary.
There should be a discussion about this.

Shetlands · 05/03/2024 14:37

I'd also add that I would accuse him of deceiving you until you're sure - as others have pointed out, the letter might not be genuine.

FinallyFeb · 05/03/2024 14:38

I’d have to open the envelope.

MassageForLife · 05/03/2024 14:38

I bet if a woman posted saying that she earns £42.5k, but for whatever reason that only just covers half the bills, and that her husband earns more, should she tell him about her bonus - she would get a very different response on here.

She would be advised to have her own savings account.