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Just told DH I will Divorce him over a fucking wedding Part two

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KeenHiker · 04/03/2024 09:52

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5018658-just-told-dh-i-will-divorce-him-over-a-fucking-wedding

I can’t believe the responses that I had.

Essentially I am going to that wedding so it won’t backfire on me and then as people have suggested reassess when everything has calmed down after Easter.

I am never going to look at MiL in the same light as she clearly thinks my daughter is an impediment to her own granddaughter.

Just told DH I will divorce him over a fucking wedding | Mumsnet

This is my first post. I think my head’s going to explode. BiL has shown no interest whatsoever in my daughters, not my eldest who isn’t my husband’...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5018658-just-told-dh-i-will-divorce-him-over-a-fucking-wedding

OP posts:
sunglassesonthetable · 07/03/2024 14:15

Where is the debate though? You’re not debating or accepting different perspectives, you’re dismissing anything you don’t like as ‘nonsense’.

Really? Nonsense?

I think I pointed out a different view of the DSD relationship in my post as opposed to yours.

You disagreeing is fine. Not anyone else though. We're " foot stamping" etc.

sunglassesonthetable · 07/03/2024 14:18

understand that you think that. You still haven't explained to me why OP should have known and expected all of that because five years ago some wills were set up which did not name her eldest daughter as a beneficiary.

I doubt it will be.

Despite endless " she knew what she was signing up for "

Surprisedbuthappy · 07/03/2024 14:22

Justkeeepswimming · 07/03/2024 14:13

@Surprisedbuthappy

DH is inheriting a tonne from his family. He also has a house plus half of their current home.

Contrastingly, the biological father has less to leave and OP has lesser inheritance, a flat, and half of their current home.

OP was entirely aware that there would be disparity of provision for the two girls - she stated that she knew this would be the case but deemed it would become apparent far into the future when the girls were adults and that hopefully DD1 would not be aware of DD2’s wealth…..

She knew.

And she was ok about it because she thought reality would dawn at a point where conflict between the girls would not be her problem to resolve.

Once again, this is not about the money! It's about her daughter being excluded from things. You still haven't explained why the OP should have known that she wouldn't be invited to family weddings, that MIL didn't want her around because she only wants to spend time with her "real" grandchild and that her husband would insist on sending the two girls to different schools on the basis of the wills.

sunglassesonthetable · 07/03/2024 14:22

*OP was entirely aware that there would be disparity of provision for the two girls - she stated that she knew this would be the case but deemed it would become apparent far into the future when the girls were adults and that hopefully DD1 would not be aware of DD2’s wealth…..

She knew.*

Hardly.

Inheritance in the future

=Left out of family wedding and 2nd class citizen throughout childhood.

And also hardly " well and equal"

InterIgnis · 07/03/2024 15:50

sunglassesonthetable · 07/03/2024 14:15

Where is the debate though? You’re not debating or accepting different perspectives, you’re dismissing anything you don’t like as ‘nonsense’.

Really? Nonsense?

I think I pointed out a different view of the DSD relationship in my post as opposed to yours.

You disagreeing is fine. Not anyone else though. We're " foot stamping" etc.

How many times do we need to establish the fact that we disagree, exactly?

sunglassesonthetable · 07/03/2024 17:15

How many times do we need to establish the fact that we disagree, exactly?

Probably 1,000 pages worth.

Just like you're replying on this thread over and over to many of the same people, arguing specific points.

Doesn't it apply to you @InterIgnis ?

Didn't realise you'd get so " but hurt " though. Or whatever it was you said to another poster ( in debate of course )

VTown · 07/03/2024 21:13

Wow wow wow. I've actually read through this entire thread and the previous one, something I just stumbled across, and, hoo boy, it's A LOT! LOL. Never intended to comment, but I'm rather surprised at the people who keep going on and on about the 10-year-old not being invited to the wedding and how "nasty" and "toxic" the DH's family is for this, plus some other relational issues that seem to have been massively overblown. (Not talking about the inheritance/private school issue here, because that's a whole different ball of wax and something OP was at least, in part, aware of.)

At least one person is bemoaning the 10-year-old (DD1) being "left of out family weddings" and "family events," as if this has been an ongoing thing. Well, this is ONE wedding/event. Obviously (by the OP's reaction and statements) this has never happened before, so this isn't the heart-rending "othering" that this is being painted as. The girl only knows she wasn't asked to be a flower girl, which she's really too old for anyway. Something similar happened to me when I was a child with a younger sibling. I was briefly upset and then got over it. Normal sibling stuff.

What really gets me here is how much blame is being thrown at the DH's family, particularly his mother, regarding the invitation, so.... Did you plan your wedding? Do you remember your future mother-in-law having a lot of say in who was invited? Who generally does most of the planning and prepping of the guest list? Yep, the BRIDE, usually with a lot of help from HER mother and, of course, input from the groom.

Think back to how this was. You're a twenty-or-early-thirty-something excitedly planning your big day. You figure out your wedding party and start your guest list. Flower girls? Well, who has a young daughter who will fit the bill? Groom's brother does! Great, check that off the list. Groom doesn't think beyond this except, great, one less thing we have to think about! (From my experience, most men do NOT enjoy all the niggling details in wedding planning.) After the wedding party, we're on to refining the guest list. In this case, the bride seems to not know the groom's brother's nuclear family well at all. Only a few years ago, she didn't even know that the brother's wife had another child! I'm guessing that the bride doesn't spend much time with the groom's brother's family. Why would she? For all she knows, this other child has a whole other family she spends half her time with, as it appears to be the case for her own sister's stepchild. And OP clearly doesn't spend a lot of time with BIL.

So, bride and groom create their guest list, juggling family on both sides, friends, etc. Bride has probably assumed that OP's child has some sort of split living arrangement with her own father and, going one step further, may not even have any interest in the wedding of someone she hardly knows. Again, basing this off what appears to be her experience with her own sister's step child. Groom seems clueless about the situation. "But," you say, "the brothers are close!" Yeah, but how often do men, particularly brothers, sit around discussing relationship/family dynamics? More like football scores and the best beer they've had recently. So the list has to be whittled down and an obvious "cut" is any step-children of bride/groom siblings. In hindsight, is this a bit myopic? Sure! But these are two relatively young people planning a wedding and thinking about how to make it special while taming the guest list. No nefarious plotting against a 10-year-old girl or intentional belittling. And the groom (the link to OP's nuclear family) doesn't have kids of his own, so simply not super clued in to the feelings of little ones.

Once the mistake was pointed out to the bride, it was immediately rectified, but apparently that's not enough now because the bride, apparently, isn't sufficiently remorseful?? That's just silly. And it's all the fault of the OP's husband's family anyway! What? The future MIL actually pushed the bride to fix the problem! Kudos to her. Bride and MIL relations--where angels fear to tread! Long and the short of it, not inviting the DD1 was a gaffe but certainly not a calculated slight. And the decision was made by the bride and groom with their limited info. AND it was rectified. What more could you ask for?

Regarding what has been said about the MIL "constantly whining" about wanting to have some with her granddaughter alone--oh PLEASE. From OP's statements, it sounds like MIL said something ONCE, after all this blew up. Not a repeated request at all. And I don't think it's such a horrible thing anyway. Many parents/grandparents want one-on-one time with a given child. And this is HER granddaughter. Who knows how close she is with DD1? It sounds like this is the type of family that gets together as a group occasionally, but not necessarily that often. If they were that tight, I'm sure the future SIL would have known about OP's DD1 much sooner.

I'm just really surprised at the vitriol towards the DH's family and practical hysterics people are in here over what is obviously just a short-sighted but innocent mistake, and a mistake that was probably driven (in ignorance of the situation) by another "outsider" to the family, the future SIL.

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 08:46

Surprisedbuthappy · 07/03/2024 14:22

Once again, this is not about the money! It's about her daughter being excluded from things. You still haven't explained why the OP should have known that she wouldn't be invited to family weddings, that MIL didn't want her around because she only wants to spend time with her "real" grandchild and that her husband would insist on sending the two girls to different schools on the basis of the wills.

@Surprisedbuthappy

Because it is all linked - if they don’t want to invest the inheritance money, they won’t want to invest time bonding and substantial sums along the way either.

HomeTheatreSystem · 08/03/2024 08:47

She brought personalised Easter eggs for cousins’ kids and my youngest. I immediately went over and said my eldest would be jealous in a jokey way but she had no idea that my eldest even existed!

You immediately went over, and started talking about your eldest being jealous - in a jokey (to you) way? Were there really no other options you could see as to how to approach this?

Sister-in-law had to have her own niece once a year or so ago and husband came back and asked me if I would let youngest go out with them but I said no as I think my eldest should have been included.

Why? The niece and your youngest are the same age. Your eldest is 5 yrs older. It's actually perfectly normal for playdates to happen by age. Do you insist your eldest goes with her younger sister on playdates with school friends? No ofc you don't.

Her daughter, my child’s aunt is always present and has kids now. I am resentful of her not pursuing a relationship.

Why do you think she doesn't pursue a relationship with you?

MiL and FiL are always nice to eldest but save for youngest, when I found this out I asked how much as I wanted to match it myself for eldest but they refused to tell me.

This just isn't normal behaviour and you'd have got their backs up. Absolutely none of your business frankly. Her father's parents can save what they like for her. You can save what you like for your daughter(s).

He says MiL has intervened on behalf of my eldest but has taken opportunity to moan that she hasn’t seen youngest on her own without eldest in two years and now wants a set time that she can see her. I am so upset that the mere presence of my eldest is somehow getting in the way of a grandparent’s relationship with my youngest.

If you've always insisted they are together on these visits then yes, she's right and you are being ridiculous. As a grandchild I wasn't always with my grandparents, with all my siblings, at the same time even if we were all visiting together. Relationships have different dynamics and it is perfectly normal to enjoy one on one time with individual relatives.

She will see her sister being called for a photograph with her great-grandmother along with every other child in the family apart from her. The concern that they have is my reaction to this photo and that it’s executed properly not that my child will be upset and why the fuck can’t she be in it anyway?

All of the above plus the below, and you've threatened to divorce her cousin. Why would she want your child in a family photo? Or you could explain to your child that she has granny x and y, youngest has granny y and z and this is a photo with granny z's grandchildren. I'd have thought this would be an easier conversation to have than the one explaining to her why you and her adored step dad will be divorcing.

I wanted us all to decline NOT ask for her to be given an invitation.

Controlling much? It's your DHs brother's wedding. There was a solution to be had and it was. You were all invited in the end. It's not all about you or is it....

I was finding the wedding invitation business really quite baffling. She's 10, very young, she's part of DHs family, what's the big deal? Didn't buy the bit about the phalanx of adult steps on SIL's sister's side having to come too and it being a fairness/numbers thing. Made no sense so there was a real reason, just one no one could feasibly share with you. But I'm getting the impression that you are alienating your DH's family by your desperation to have your eldest included wherever you perceive her as being left out. You want her to be treated exactly the same as your youngest. Full siblings are not treated exactly the same by their family because they're all different.

You are doing absolutely nothing for your eldest's self esteem by the horrendous way you go about tally keeping on your in laws' interactions with your daughters, ensuring that everyone treats your daughters exactly the same and am now wondering if this isn't what led to your eldest's exclusion from the wedding. BIL knew that if she were there you'd be seeing any and every instance of differentiation between the 2 as a slight to your eldest and going "immediately over" to have a word about it, probably with a tearful eldest in tow. All especially likely given the youngest would be a flower girl with everyone cooing over her and making a fuss. If the eldest wasn't there then that disruption wouldn't happen so he (erroneously) thought that would be the solution. If this is how you've acted since marrying your DH I can see that they may find you and your eldest's presence at family gatherings as pleasant as wearing underwear made of 40 grit sandpaper. You need to fix your approach to this, for the sake of your eldest's self esteem and her sibling relationship. Even if, as you believe, you have shielded her from what's going on behind the scenes, she may soon hear things, unfiltered, from kids who've heard their parents discussing you and your eldest and this WILL be very hurtful to her.

Secondly, if you do divorce, ofc your eldest will never see these people again nor have to suffer real or imaginary slights but she will still see your youngest spending half her week with her former step father, she'll hear about all the great things they do together, she'll see the gifts. She'll see her enjoying the life she once had. In time as a later teen, she'll see her go to private school and then she'll see her inherit a lot of money. She'll see her benefit from all that privilege. And there she is with a deadbeat dad she doesn't see and a step dad she loved but who can't be in her life anymore. The fact that she isn't actually his family as he's not adopted her - and maybe can't if her bio dad won't consent - spelled out loud and clear.

You'll have created a new wife vacancy too and your DH may remarry and have more kids (probably with someone childfree). So your youngest gets her own step family and possibly a taste of what your eldest has experienced. Her money, privilege and private education will not compensate for that. Is all that what you really want?

Can you honestly not see how very fortunate you are with what you and your daughters have right now even if it's not 100% perfect? You have said yourself that you wouldn't know your eldest was not your DHs daughter by the way he treats her. That is huge: she is benefitting from all that love and security and you want to swap it out for the above? I do think you have a tricky situation to deal with re the private school education for your youngest and not your eldest (but that is not without a solution, it may just not be the one you want, whereby your DH pays for both) and inheritances coming sooner rather than later but I don't think divorce will solve much without creating a different but equally complex and intractable set of circumstances elsewhere, not least of which risks being a permanent schism between the 2 siblings because they will realise that the dynamics surrounding each of their mere existences has led to them losing the loving and stable family they once shared.

You would be doing both your daughters a huge favour if you helped them to understand that life can be very unfair at times, people can be mean, thoughtless and hurtful whether intentionally or through ignorance, help them understand what really matters and what doesn't and equip them with the tools they need to develop a very strong sense of self worth and self belief so they can navigate this life successfully and not be left feeling crushed by its vagaries.

Surprisedbuthappy · 08/03/2024 08:51

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 08:46

@Surprisedbuthappy

Because it is all linked - if they don’t want to invest the inheritance money, they won’t want to invest time bonding and substantial sums along the way either.

Well that might be obvious to you, but it wouldn't have been obvious to me. OP says it wasn't obvious to her either, and I see no reason not to believe her.

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 08:55

VTown · 07/03/2024 21:13

Wow wow wow. I've actually read through this entire thread and the previous one, something I just stumbled across, and, hoo boy, it's A LOT! LOL. Never intended to comment, but I'm rather surprised at the people who keep going on and on about the 10-year-old not being invited to the wedding and how "nasty" and "toxic" the DH's family is for this, plus some other relational issues that seem to have been massively overblown. (Not talking about the inheritance/private school issue here, because that's a whole different ball of wax and something OP was at least, in part, aware of.)

At least one person is bemoaning the 10-year-old (DD1) being "left of out family weddings" and "family events," as if this has been an ongoing thing. Well, this is ONE wedding/event. Obviously (by the OP's reaction and statements) this has never happened before, so this isn't the heart-rending "othering" that this is being painted as. The girl only knows she wasn't asked to be a flower girl, which she's really too old for anyway. Something similar happened to me when I was a child with a younger sibling. I was briefly upset and then got over it. Normal sibling stuff.

What really gets me here is how much blame is being thrown at the DH's family, particularly his mother, regarding the invitation, so.... Did you plan your wedding? Do you remember your future mother-in-law having a lot of say in who was invited? Who generally does most of the planning and prepping of the guest list? Yep, the BRIDE, usually with a lot of help from HER mother and, of course, input from the groom.

Think back to how this was. You're a twenty-or-early-thirty-something excitedly planning your big day. You figure out your wedding party and start your guest list. Flower girls? Well, who has a young daughter who will fit the bill? Groom's brother does! Great, check that off the list. Groom doesn't think beyond this except, great, one less thing we have to think about! (From my experience, most men do NOT enjoy all the niggling details in wedding planning.) After the wedding party, we're on to refining the guest list. In this case, the bride seems to not know the groom's brother's nuclear family well at all. Only a few years ago, she didn't even know that the brother's wife had another child! I'm guessing that the bride doesn't spend much time with the groom's brother's family. Why would she? For all she knows, this other child has a whole other family she spends half her time with, as it appears to be the case for her own sister's stepchild. And OP clearly doesn't spend a lot of time with BIL.

So, bride and groom create their guest list, juggling family on both sides, friends, etc. Bride has probably assumed that OP's child has some sort of split living arrangement with her own father and, going one step further, may not even have any interest in the wedding of someone she hardly knows. Again, basing this off what appears to be her experience with her own sister's step child. Groom seems clueless about the situation. "But," you say, "the brothers are close!" Yeah, but how often do men, particularly brothers, sit around discussing relationship/family dynamics? More like football scores and the best beer they've had recently. So the list has to be whittled down and an obvious "cut" is any step-children of bride/groom siblings. In hindsight, is this a bit myopic? Sure! But these are two relatively young people planning a wedding and thinking about how to make it special while taming the guest list. No nefarious plotting against a 10-year-old girl or intentional belittling. And the groom (the link to OP's nuclear family) doesn't have kids of his own, so simply not super clued in to the feelings of little ones.

Once the mistake was pointed out to the bride, it was immediately rectified, but apparently that's not enough now because the bride, apparently, isn't sufficiently remorseful?? That's just silly. And it's all the fault of the OP's husband's family anyway! What? The future MIL actually pushed the bride to fix the problem! Kudos to her. Bride and MIL relations--where angels fear to tread! Long and the short of it, not inviting the DD1 was a gaffe but certainly not a calculated slight. And the decision was made by the bride and groom with their limited info. AND it was rectified. What more could you ask for?

Regarding what has been said about the MIL "constantly whining" about wanting to have some with her granddaughter alone--oh PLEASE. From OP's statements, it sounds like MIL said something ONCE, after all this blew up. Not a repeated request at all. And I don't think it's such a horrible thing anyway. Many parents/grandparents want one-on-one time with a given child. And this is HER granddaughter. Who knows how close she is with DD1? It sounds like this is the type of family that gets together as a group occasionally, but not necessarily that often. If they were that tight, I'm sure the future SIL would have known about OP's DD1 much sooner.

I'm just really surprised at the vitriol towards the DH's family and practical hysterics people are in here over what is obviously just a short-sighted but innocent mistake, and a mistake that was probably driven (in ignorance of the situation) by another "outsider" to the family, the future SIL.

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@VTown

This is exactly the way I see it, bride transposed the accepted social norms regards step children in her family to the blended family on her fiancé’s side, expecting the situation to be the same.

When corrected, they sought to resolve the matter within 24 hours. The elder daughter in unaware of all of it. And you’re right she is too old to be a flower girl anyway.

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 09:03

HomeTheatreSystem · 08/03/2024 08:47

She brought personalised Easter eggs for cousins’ kids and my youngest. I immediately went over and said my eldest would be jealous in a jokey way but she had no idea that my eldest even existed!

You immediately went over, and started talking about your eldest being jealous - in a jokey (to you) way? Were there really no other options you could see as to how to approach this?

Sister-in-law had to have her own niece once a year or so ago and husband came back and asked me if I would let youngest go out with them but I said no as I think my eldest should have been included.

Why? The niece and your youngest are the same age. Your eldest is 5 yrs older. It's actually perfectly normal for playdates to happen by age. Do you insist your eldest goes with her younger sister on playdates with school friends? No ofc you don't.

Her daughter, my child’s aunt is always present and has kids now. I am resentful of her not pursuing a relationship.

Why do you think she doesn't pursue a relationship with you?

MiL and FiL are always nice to eldest but save for youngest, when I found this out I asked how much as I wanted to match it myself for eldest but they refused to tell me.

This just isn't normal behaviour and you'd have got their backs up. Absolutely none of your business frankly. Her father's parents can save what they like for her. You can save what you like for your daughter(s).

He says MiL has intervened on behalf of my eldest but has taken opportunity to moan that she hasn’t seen youngest on her own without eldest in two years and now wants a set time that she can see her. I am so upset that the mere presence of my eldest is somehow getting in the way of a grandparent’s relationship with my youngest.

If you've always insisted they are together on these visits then yes, she's right and you are being ridiculous. As a grandchild I wasn't always with my grandparents, with all my siblings, at the same time even if we were all visiting together. Relationships have different dynamics and it is perfectly normal to enjoy one on one time with individual relatives.

She will see her sister being called for a photograph with her great-grandmother along with every other child in the family apart from her. The concern that they have is my reaction to this photo and that it’s executed properly not that my child will be upset and why the fuck can’t she be in it anyway?

All of the above plus the below, and you've threatened to divorce her cousin. Why would she want your child in a family photo? Or you could explain to your child that she has granny x and y, youngest has granny y and z and this is a photo with granny z's grandchildren. I'd have thought this would be an easier conversation to have than the one explaining to her why you and her adored step dad will be divorcing.

I wanted us all to decline NOT ask for her to be given an invitation.

Controlling much? It's your DHs brother's wedding. There was a solution to be had and it was. You were all invited in the end. It's not all about you or is it....

I was finding the wedding invitation business really quite baffling. She's 10, very young, she's part of DHs family, what's the big deal? Didn't buy the bit about the phalanx of adult steps on SIL's sister's side having to come too and it being a fairness/numbers thing. Made no sense so there was a real reason, just one no one could feasibly share with you. But I'm getting the impression that you are alienating your DH's family by your desperation to have your eldest included wherever you perceive her as being left out. You want her to be treated exactly the same as your youngest. Full siblings are not treated exactly the same by their family because they're all different.

You are doing absolutely nothing for your eldest's self esteem by the horrendous way you go about tally keeping on your in laws' interactions with your daughters, ensuring that everyone treats your daughters exactly the same and am now wondering if this isn't what led to your eldest's exclusion from the wedding. BIL knew that if she were there you'd be seeing any and every instance of differentiation between the 2 as a slight to your eldest and going "immediately over" to have a word about it, probably with a tearful eldest in tow. All especially likely given the youngest would be a flower girl with everyone cooing over her and making a fuss. If the eldest wasn't there then that disruption wouldn't happen so he (erroneously) thought that would be the solution. If this is how you've acted since marrying your DH I can see that they may find you and your eldest's presence at family gatherings as pleasant as wearing underwear made of 40 grit sandpaper. You need to fix your approach to this, for the sake of your eldest's self esteem and her sibling relationship. Even if, as you believe, you have shielded her from what's going on behind the scenes, she may soon hear things, unfiltered, from kids who've heard their parents discussing you and your eldest and this WILL be very hurtful to her.

Secondly, if you do divorce, ofc your eldest will never see these people again nor have to suffer real or imaginary slights but she will still see your youngest spending half her week with her former step father, she'll hear about all the great things they do together, she'll see the gifts. She'll see her enjoying the life she once had. In time as a later teen, she'll see her go to private school and then she'll see her inherit a lot of money. She'll see her benefit from all that privilege. And there she is with a deadbeat dad she doesn't see and a step dad she loved but who can't be in her life anymore. The fact that she isn't actually his family as he's not adopted her - and maybe can't if her bio dad won't consent - spelled out loud and clear.

You'll have created a new wife vacancy too and your DH may remarry and have more kids (probably with someone childfree). So your youngest gets her own step family and possibly a taste of what your eldest has experienced. Her money, privilege and private education will not compensate for that. Is all that what you really want?

Can you honestly not see how very fortunate you are with what you and your daughters have right now even if it's not 100% perfect? You have said yourself that you wouldn't know your eldest was not your DHs daughter by the way he treats her. That is huge: she is benefitting from all that love and security and you want to swap it out for the above? I do think you have a tricky situation to deal with re the private school education for your youngest and not your eldest (but that is not without a solution, it may just not be the one you want, whereby your DH pays for both) and inheritances coming sooner rather than later but I don't think divorce will solve much without creating a different but equally complex and intractable set of circumstances elsewhere, not least of which risks being a permanent schism between the 2 siblings because they will realise that the dynamics surrounding each of their mere existences has led to them losing the loving and stable family they once shared.

You would be doing both your daughters a huge favour if you helped them to understand that life can be very unfair at times, people can be mean, thoughtless and hurtful whether intentionally or through ignorance, help them understand what really matters and what doesn't and equip them with the tools they need to develop a very strong sense of self worth and self belief so they can navigate this life successfully and not be left feeling crushed by its vagaries.

@KeenHiker please read the above advice from @HomeTheatreSystem it is 100% sound.

Surprisedbuthappy · 08/03/2024 09:08

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 09:03

@KeenHiker please read the above advice from @HomeTheatreSystem it is 100% sound.

It's only 100% sound if she wants to stay in this marriage! If she doesn't, then staying for all of those reasons won't make anything better. It will just prolong the agony for all parties.

@KeenHiker Make your own mind up after talking to your husband and deep reflection on both sides of this debate! Good luck!

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 09:15

@Surprisedbuthappy

My opinion is she would be incredibly foolish to divorce and that it would create more problems for both daughters as outlined by @HomeTheatreSystem. Largely, the minor issue of the wedding has been overblown, and the bigger issue of disparity in inheritance/financial support was already known.

Completely respect that you think differently, but personally I think divorce is a disproportionate response and hugely more detrimental.

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 09:56

*My opinion is she would be incredibly foolish to divorce and that it would create more problems for both daughters as outlined by @HomeTheatreSystem. Largely, the minor issue of the wedding has been overblown, and the bigger issue of disparity in inheritance/financial support was already known.

Completely respect that you think differently, but personally I think divorce is a disproportionate response and hugely more detrimental.*

Dear me. How an earth can you advise anyone to stay or not stay in any marriage on the basis of some paragraphs?

You are beyond.
You really have no idea.

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 09:57

@Justkeeepswimming

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 10:04

Because it is all linked - if they don’t want to invest the inheritance money, they won’t want to invest time bonding and substantial sums along the way either.

Only in your opinion. 😁

You've made a lot of dubious deductions the entire way through this thread including knowing what was DH's " heartfelt " thoughts. 😂

And other croc faux explanations. It is simply a matter of opinion.

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 10:06

KeenHiker please read the above advice from @HomeTheatreSystem it is 100% sound.

It's is pure speculation. But OP knows that. And tbh is long gone.

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 10:16

@sunglassesonthetable

It’s an internet forum.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion based on their own interpretation and perception of events.

Most people are able to interact respecting others contributions, avoiding being insulting to others.

Respectfully, we can agree to disagree on our advice for OP.

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 10:25

From grabby, manipulative, entitled people who would rather leech off others they aren’t related to, than get their finger out to work and pay for their own child.

Respectful ?

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 10:32

Respectfully, we can agree to disagree on our advice for OP.

Totally. I can also point out that advising someone to stay or not stay in an actual real life marriage is wild.

Surprisedbuthappy · 08/03/2024 10:36

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 10:32

Respectfully, we can agree to disagree on our advice for OP.

Totally. I can also point out that advising someone to stay or not stay in an actual real life marriage is wild.

In fairness, I think I may advised OP to leave her marriage a few times! Just holding my hand up here! The debate did get a little bit... passionate. Oh well, it's been an interesting one.

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 10:37

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 10:25

From grabby, manipulative, entitled people who would rather leech off others they aren’t related to, than get their finger out to work and pay for their own child.

Respectful ?

🙄 posters can be respectful of one another’s opinions.

I’m sorry, but OP wanting her husband to foot a likely 100k education bill for her elder daughter - or to deny her younger daughter an education he is happy to pay for IS all of the above.

She has the money to pay for her daughter - which would be splitting the education bill 50:50; but she doesn’t want to compromise on her lifestyle. That isn’t speculation - it’s what she said.

Justkeeepswimming · 08/03/2024 10:40

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 10:32

Respectfully, we can agree to disagree on our advice for OP.

Totally. I can also point out that advising someone to stay or not stay in an actual real life marriage is wild.

@sunglassesonthetable

Pretty much every relationship thread on here has 70% of posters saying LTB….

I personally think divorce is very destructive and could cause much more serious harm to both of OP’s girls from what she has told us about the situation.

It sounds, to me, a knee jerk disproportionate response.

That’s my opinion. Her decision is up to her.

sunglassesonthetable · 08/03/2024 10:43

🙄 posters can be respectful of one another’s opinions.

It's all very well asking for respect and then you come out with that sort of bile.

To an actual human person who has asked for advice. Without any real inside knowledge of the details of her marriage or relationship.

Kind of blew my respect tbh.

But luckily I think OP has gone.