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Just told DH I will Divorce him over a fucking wedding Part two

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KeenHiker · 04/03/2024 09:52

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5018658-just-told-dh-i-will-divorce-him-over-a-fucking-wedding

I can’t believe the responses that I had.

Essentially I am going to that wedding so it won’t backfire on me and then as people have suggested reassess when everything has calmed down after Easter.

I am never going to look at MiL in the same light as she clearly thinks my daughter is an impediment to her own granddaughter.

Just told DH I will divorce him over a fucking wedding | Mumsnet

This is my first post. I think my head’s going to explode. BiL has shown no interest whatsoever in my daughters, not my eldest who isn’t my husband’...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5018658-just-told-dh-i-will-divorce-him-over-a-fucking-wedding

OP posts:
WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 08:51

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 08:44

Yes, generally people cut out their biological children when they’re estranged from them, or there’s issues there. It isn’t an act that usually intended to be, or received as, neutral. It speaks loudly as to the nature of a relationship, and her OP’s husband’s will speaks loudly here. He did not, and does not, consider her his child. OP was, and is, aware.

I don’t doubt that OP thought that with time, and effort on her part, that things would change. That they haven’t doesn’t mean she was in any way tricked, it means she miscalculated.

Whatever OP does now is up to her, but whatever she does she isn’t going to change the fact that there are significant familial and financial disparities between her two daughters, and indeed leaving may just bring those disparities into even sharper relief.

He did not, and does not, consider her his child. OP was, and is, aware.

Correct.

I don’t doubt that OP thought that with time, and effort on her part, that things would change. That they haven’t doesn’t mean she was in any way tricked, it means she miscalculated.

No, but OP misled them. Knowing the score, falsely pretending that was all ok with her and marrying him. And since that point trying to force her own narrative onto them all, and now threatening divorce if they don't conform over a wedding and school fees.

That's not miscalculating...

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 08:55

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 08:51

He did not, and does not, consider her his child. OP was, and is, aware.

Correct.

I don’t doubt that OP thought that with time, and effort on her part, that things would change. That they haven’t doesn’t mean she was in any way tricked, it means she miscalculated.

No, but OP misled them. Knowing the score, falsely pretending that was all ok with her and marrying him. And since that point trying to force her own narrative onto them all, and now threatening divorce if they don't conform over a wedding and school fees.

That's not miscalculating...

I’d say she miscalculated in thinking she would, through the passage of time and by marrying and having child with him, wield more power than she does. Now she’s tried to flex that power and realized it’s an illusion, and he and they haven’t and won’t give her what she feels entitled to demand. That’s why she’s mad.

These aren’t stupid people, and I’m sure that through being in the position they’re in that they’re very well versed in having to protect their interests, as well as how to.

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 08:57

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 08:38

Yes, I have been wrong about that. I really did think I'd read that he told OP he loved her daughter as his own but it looks like I added that but myself. OP's posts very much gave the impression that she thought that too!

See, this was my inkling all along. I posted this pages ago. OP has heard what she wanted to hear, because she wants this to be the "instant" family she hasn't got for elder DD. As PP said, she must have really thought her ship came in.

Eg the DH says "I will raise her with you"

And OP deliberately hears "I will raise her with you as my own".

Like you, OP added that bit on the end. And you only did that because of the way OP tells the story insinuating it. OP now is up in arms that what she wanted to hear isn't what is happening. She's got fantasies in her head of this brilliant supportive wealthy family who will scoop up her eldest and lavish all this support etc on her, despite the reality being that from day one, she wasn't in wills, or thought of as a granddaughter. OP did know that. She just pushed on with the fantasy version, because she thinks it's somehow going to materialise if she keeps acting like it will.

I think OP would have been trying to seek validation of this, "oh it's wonderful how you raise her as your own, DH" to almost plant the seed/get him to say those words. Because she wanted to create that situation for her eldest. That thing where if you say something often enough, and loud enough, it must be true, right? She knew it wasn't the case. She was hoping she could change that.

Whether he used those actual words or not - he has acted in a way that made OP think he saw the two girls as equal - and now he's making it crystal clear that he doesn't.

I don't think he did at all. I think OP has deliberately interpreted someone saying "as her own father won't even turn up, now we're married I will do the day to day providing and parenting with you" as "this is now my child, as my own, and my extended family will now become a surrogate paternal family".

Right from the start, the DHs response to OP raging at him was "it's not my fault her dad didn't step up". And this makes so much sense. The DH is willing to step up, and do the groundwork each day. The boring but absolutely essential daily life stuff that every child needs. Food, clothes, housing, holidays, birthdays, social stuff. He is doing all of that, and OP glosses over that this is all voluntary and a thousand times more than actual dad. She literally just ignores everything he does every day. The real parenting. The only person (other than OP) who's ever been interested in this child, she's threatening to divorce because she didn't get a wedding invite just like the other 6 "step nieces/nephews".

She's been given the keys to the candy store, she expect the deeds to the shop.

I'm not absolving OP of all responsibility here - but I think this is massively unfair on her!

There may be some truth in what you're saying about OP making a lot of assumptions and building a fantasy in her head. However, she hasn't said that she expects her husband's wealthy family to lavish her daughter with anything. She's said she expects them to go include her daughter as a member of the family - that would include wedding invites and not complaining when she comes to visit along with her younger sister.

As for her husband, if he really loved OP and her daughter he would want to treat the two girls equally. I think making a big song and dance about "stepping up" while simultaneously making choices that will massively affect the older girl's self-esteem is appalling.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 08:57

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 08:47

*Right from the start, the DHs response to OP raging at him was "it's not my fault her dad didn't step up". And this makes so much sense. The DH is willing to step up, and do the groundwork each day. The boring but absolutely essential daily life stuff that every child needs. Food, clothes, housing, holidays, birthdays, social stuff. He is doing all of that, and OP glosses over that this is all voluntary and a thousand times more than actual dad. She literally just ignores everything he does every day. The real parenting. The only person (other than OP) who's ever been interested in this child, she's threatening to divorce because she didn't get a wedding invite just like the other 6 "step nieces/nephews".

She's been given the keys to the candy store, she expect the deeds to the shop.*

And? The real parenting is not "othering" your child. Or the child in your care.

And he's not her real parent. She's got two of those. One who can't be arsed. One who's beyond entitled about what unrelated people should do for her and her child while the actual parent simultaneously does jack all.

He's happy to be her step father, he's been really clear about that from the off.

if what he’s provided is so inconsequential then he may as well as just stop entirely.

Quite. Maybe OP needs that reality check.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 08:58

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 08:55

I’d say she miscalculated in thinking she would, through the passage of time and by marrying and having child with him, wield more power than she does. Now she’s tried to flex that power and realized it’s an illusion, and he and they haven’t and won’t give her what she feels entitled to demand. That’s why she’s mad.

These aren’t stupid people, and I’m sure that through being in the position they’re in that they’re very well versed in having to protect their interests, as well as how to.

Edited

Ahhh, gotcha. Yes you are spot on.

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:03

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 08:50

Then her own father can do it 🤷🏻‍♀️

if what he’s provided is so inconsequential then he may as well as just stop entirely.

Her own father is not and never has been on the scene. And the OP's husband knew this when he married her and "stepped up" - as he says.

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 09:04

As for her husband, if he really loved OP and her daughter he would want to treat the two girls equally. I think making a big song and dance about "stepping up" while simultaneously making choices that will massively affect the older girl's self-esteem is appalling.

Exactly this.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 09:04

As for her husband, if he really loved OP and her daughter he would want to treat the two girls equally.

He does though. All the normal day to day stuff. Just not the "big ticket" items, and he never suggested he would, in fact he was clear from the start that big things like inheritance, would not fall to a step child.

I think making a big song and dance about "stepping up" while simultaneously making choices that will massively affect the older girl's self-esteem is appalling.

He didn't make a big song and dance about everything he does. He made a big song and dance about OP berating him and his family for the large amount they already do, because they wouldn't do even more... while actual dad does fuck all and OP prefers not to engage with any other actual paternal family but apparently that's ok.

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 09:05

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:03

Her own father is not and never has been on the scene. And the OP's husband knew this when he married her and "stepped up" - as he says.

Not his fault or his problem, that.

He has stepped up, as a stepparent. That he won’t provide everything to her that he will his actual child doesn’t negate the value of what he has done.

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 09:06

And he's not her real parent. She's got two of those. One who can't be arsed. One who's beyond entitled about what unrelated people should do for her and her child while the actual parent simultaneously does jack all.

We all know being a "real parent" is nothing to do with sperm . ( in a father's case )

Expecting both your young children be included in a wedding is not entitled.

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:07

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 08:55

I’d say she miscalculated in thinking she would, through the passage of time and by marrying and having child with him, wield more power than she does. Now she’s tried to flex that power and realized it’s an illusion, and he and they haven’t and won’t give her what she feels entitled to demand. That’s why she’s mad.

These aren’t stupid people, and I’m sure that through being in the position they’re in that they’re very well versed in having to protect their interests, as well as how to.

Edited

Ah OK - so OP is a manipulator who tried to trap this poor man and is throwing her toys out of the pram because her evil plan hasn't worked?

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 09:08

He does though. All the normal day to day stuff. Just not the "big ticket" items, and he never suggested he would, in fact he was clear from the start that big things like inheritance, would not fall to a step child.

And wedding invitations for a 10 year old?

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 09:12

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:07

Ah OK - so OP is a manipulator who tried to trap this poor man and is throwing her toys out of the pram because her evil plan hasn't worked?

I don’t think she’s ‘evil’ at all, or that it was a particularly grand or calculated plan, but I do believe she accepted the t&c here believing they wouldn’t really apply/ she could change them. Threatening divorce didn’t have quite the impact she thought it would, and has instead resulted in reality being plainly spelt out to her.

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 09:13

*I’d say she miscalculated in thinking she would, through the passage of time and by marrying and having child with him, wield more power than she does. Now she’s tried to flex that power and realized it’s an illusion, and he and they haven’t and won’t give her what she feels entitled to demand. That’s why she’s mad.

These aren’t stupid people, and I’m sure that through being in the position they’re in that they’re very well versed in having to protect their interests, as well as how to.*

This is like an episode of Dallas! 😂

" miscalculated "

" weird more power"

Jeez she's just really upset for her 10 year old.

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:21

He does though. All the normal day to day stuff. Just not the "big ticket" items, and he never suggested he would, in fact he was clear from the start that big things like inheritance, would not fall to a step child.

I was accused earlier of trying to spin some kind of "rich people = bad" narrative, but it is not me who keeps bringing it back to money!

As I keep saying, it's the child's emotional well-being that I personally think is important. It's the exclusion and constant little reminders that she's not a "real" part of the family that are the biggest problems. Money does of course comes into it - private education would cost a lot - but it's the complete lack of consideration for how the older girl will be made to feel by it being offered to her sister only that makes it appalling. It's not that the older girl should have some kind of automatic right to a private education.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 09:22

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 09:08

He does though. All the normal day to day stuff. Just not the "big ticket" items, and he never suggested he would, in fact he was clear from the start that big things like inheritance, would not fall to a step child.

And wedding invitations for a 10 year old?

You need to take it in context. She was one of seven children that all weren't invited. Then the bride has changed her wedding to accommodate OP having a rage about it. One of the other children, closer in age and the same step relation as the DD even "eye rolled" at OP's reaction.

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 09:28

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 09:13

*I’d say she miscalculated in thinking she would, through the passage of time and by marrying and having child with him, wield more power than she does. Now she’s tried to flex that power and realized it’s an illusion, and he and they haven’t and won’t give her what she feels entitled to demand. That’s why she’s mad.

These aren’t stupid people, and I’m sure that through being in the position they’re in that they’re very well versed in having to protect their interests, as well as how to.*

This is like an episode of Dallas! 😂

" miscalculated "

" weird more power"

Jeez she's just really upset for her 10 year old.

When you have wealth, shit like this comes with the territory.

She went from threatening divorce to now defending her husband against the very people taking her side, and she’s now attending the wedding. This despite the fact that her daughter not being considered family to them, and that this won’t be changing, has been well and truly pointed out to her. Seems that the divorce threat was indeed a power play, but not one she truly anticipated seeing through.

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:29

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 09:22

You need to take it in context. She was one of seven children that all weren't invited. Then the bride has changed her wedding to accommodate OP having a rage about it. One of the other children, closer in age and the same step relation as the DD even "eye rolled" at OP's reaction.

You need to take it context! She was the only one out of her family of four (because, like it or not, that family of four is the only family this little girl has or has ever known) to be excluded. Her sister was invited to play princess for the day with Mummy and Daddy watching, while she was expected to stay at home.

There absolutely weren't seven other children not invited. There was a 14-year old (who I personally also would have invited, but in an update OP said didn't seem to care) and then some other step relatives in their thirties, plus a baby/small child of two of them. There are also child cousins invited, so it never was a child-free wedding.

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 09:33

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:21

He does though. All the normal day to day stuff. Just not the "big ticket" items, and he never suggested he would, in fact he was clear from the start that big things like inheritance, would not fall to a step child.

I was accused earlier of trying to spin some kind of "rich people = bad" narrative, but it is not me who keeps bringing it back to money!

As I keep saying, it's the child's emotional well-being that I personally think is important. It's the exclusion and constant little reminders that she's not a "real" part of the family that are the biggest problems. Money does of course comes into it - private education would cost a lot - but it's the complete lack of consideration for how the older girl will be made to feel by it being offered to her sister only that makes it appalling. It's not that the older girl should have some kind of automatic right to a private education.

“I was accused earlier of trying to spin some kind of "rich people = bad" narrative”

That would be because you have been.

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:35

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/03/2024 09:22

You need to take it in context. She was one of seven children that all weren't invited. Then the bride has changed her wedding to accommodate OP having a rage about it. One of the other children, closer in age and the same step relation as the DD even "eye rolled" at OP's reaction.

Also, the bride did not "change her wedding" for OP - don't be so bloody dramatic! She added a 10-year old child to the guest list. This will have cost the price of a child's menu and perhaps some minor inconvenience of seat rearranging. And given that the invitations had only just gone out, she couldn't possibly have finalised the seating plans anyway.

And it was the 14-year old that eye-rolled. At that age, everything any adult does is worthy of an eye roll!

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:37

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 09:33

“I was accused earlier of trying to spin some kind of "rich people = bad" narrative”

That would be because you have been.

Nope. My "narrative" - if you want to call it that, actually just what I think - is that people who disregard the emotional wellbeing of an innocent child and would deliberately exclude and other her are bad.

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 09:42

You need to take it in context. She was one of seven children that all weren't invited. Then the bride has changed her wedding to accommodate OP having a rage about it. One of the other children, closer in age and the same step relation as the DD even "eye rolled" at OP's reaction.

The context is that a 10 year old's DM, DD and DS were invited as she wasn't. That's the context.

sunglassesonthetable · 06/03/2024 09:47

It doesn't matter who else wasn't invited. You don't cherry pick kids out of families.

My kids eye roll when I wear the wrong trainers. 😁

InterIgnis · 06/03/2024 09:50

Surprisedbuthappy · 06/03/2024 09:37

Nope. My "narrative" - if you want to call it that, actually just what I think - is that people who disregard the emotional wellbeing of an innocent child and would deliberately exclude and other her are bad.

“I've been utterly baffled at some of the attitudes displayed here over the past few days. I've only just realised it's a class thing and this is all about protecting wealth and keeping it in the bloodline! If this is what private school does to you, I think both your daughters are better off out of it, OP!”

“Yes, but the extent of the money discrepancy has only really come into it recently. Initially it was about an invitation to a wedding (or lack of one). I hadn't realised that the reason people might be so cruel to a 10-year old child is to deliberately keep them at a distance so as to protect their own financial interests. It doesn't make it any less cruel, but it makes more sense to me now. It's just rich people doing rich people things.”

“This thread has been so enlightening! The moneyed people here have made it perfectly clear that money - and all the advantages that brings such as a private education - is either yours by absolute birthright, or it isn't.

Yet rich people often claim that poor people are poor because they don't work hard enough or because of some moral failing on their part.

They create a world of have-gots and have-nots and then blame the have-nots for not having.

I think all the "what class am I" type threads should be directed here. It's a real eye-opener!”

“For what it's worth, I think your husband is an a-hole and his parents are horrid people (well, his mother, I don't think you've mentioned much about your FIL). However, as I've come to realise, having money apparently makes it OK to act that way towards an innocent child as long as the money stays in the bloodline. I was angry with him this whole time, but if you're now going to defend him then I don't know what it is you want from this!”

Caerulea · 06/03/2024 09:51

Tryingmybestadhd · 05/03/2024 17:57

My step kids live in another country , for them to come to us we pay for every flight , we also pay for every flight to come to us before we then head abroad to go on holiday twice a year . I should add that when I say we , I’m the main earner as earn 3x more than Dh does ( we both work full time ) we both have 2x children from previous relationships and one together. So yes I know exactly how hard it is to have to actually use “ my “ money for children that are not biologically mine . I do it without resenting them or my DH because I love him and them , and because I truly believe for us to be a fair family without screwing up the kids they need to know we love them all equally and will do the same for all of them . I also should add one of DH children is actually his stepchild that calls him dad as he married his mum when he was 4 years old , therefore no dna related to him or me but still 100% our family .
So please do not assume everyone is as horrid as this family and some of the posters here or think the same way as you !

Edited

Ha, I've just realised that my in-laws do this for us too. Both sets live abroad in different countries that are both very expensive to get to & have both paid for our whole family to visit multiple times. MIL paid to fly here & collect all 3 kids (yes, that included her non-blood grandson) then fly back with them whilst we worked - at huge cost! In fact, they've paid for every family holiday we've had together.

FIL & wife offered to pay for work courses for eldest (not blood) & even offered to pay to get them out of a rental contract (the house was too mouldy for non-blood grandson's pregnant girlfriend to live in).

There's never been a question. Dh took on a small boy when we met, so did they. That boy became his son & by extension their family - that's it.

Fun extra fact - DH, FIL & FIL wife all went through boarding school. MIL wealthy (thru inheritance & hard work). So whilst I FIRMLY believe those backgrounds are what make ppl like OPs in-laws it absolutely doesn't have to. You can, at any time, choose not to be an arsehole.