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He says I need to fix up and clean the house before he gets home

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hayley3212 · 29/02/2024 09:54

His words.

Him being my partner, soon to be husband, and father of our 1 year old. He said things need to change and he doesn't want to come home to an untidy house each day. I don't disagree with him on that and I would love for things to be tidier too, but I'd like to know how that is even possible.

He works full time, leaves the house at 5am to go to the gym everyday and from there he works 8-6 and is home by 7. When he's home he normally cooks dinner for us whilst I put our son to bed.

I don't work but am at uni full-time, where I'm meant to spend around 30-40 hours a week studying. Our son is in childcare 3 days a week for 10 hours a day. During these days I attend lectures and seminars, study and work on assignments etc. Sometimes I will be at home and not actually at uni, if for instance, there is a reading week/term break and sometimes I just prefer staying at home to study. I pick our son up at 6 and am home with him by 6:15, then we usually play, I breastfeed him and just chill (as it's been so long since I've seen him and I really miss him on these days.) I don't have much time to clean and tidy because I am doing my uni work, of course I do still take time in the day to do this but it does mean less time studying so I try to be quick.

The other 2 days a week I'm at home with my son just the two of us. I say at home, but I try to spend as little time at home as possible. This is because I get really over stimulated being at home with him all day so I take him out to parks mainly because I like being in nature, and we also go to soft play and libraries sometimes too. I do normally take him home for his lunch and nap so theoretically I could use nap time to tidy up but honestly I normally end up napping with him or watching Netflix on the sofa. It sounds silly but I really look forward to nap time because its time for me to just chill or sleep, and the thought of cleaning during that time is just not appealing. Our son has never slept through the night and he's nearly 2. I'm talking waking multiple times every night, so I am exhausted most the time and because he only wants boob and his dads got to get up early, I do all the night settling.

On weekends my partner does help with the cleaning and tidying. But its weekdays he has an issue with. I completely get the wanting to come home to a clean and tidy house, I mean, who wouldn't? But its the expectation that I can and should make this happen, whilst also implying I am lazy for not being able to achieve this, which I take issue with. Our house is definitely not neglected. I tidy up and clean EVERYDAY yet its still a mess. The more time I'm at home with my son, the more mess created, but if I'm out with him a lot then there's no time to tidy up. It almost feels like what he is asking is impossible.
In his eyes, having a couple of glasses in the sink and some crumbs on the kitchen counters is messy. But in my eyes, it's not that deep because I know how many countless glasses and plates I've already just washed up and put away and I probably also cleaned the surfaces an hour ago. He doesn't see this though, he will only notice the things I've not done.

I hoover most days, I do all the laundry, I clean the toilet everyday, make the beds up. I don't mind doing these things but I don't know how much more I can do without sacrificing my uni work or time with my son.

YABU - you could do more, especially when toddler naps
YANBU- he needs to chill out

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ilovesooty · 29/02/2024 10:02

"Soon to be husband" - don't. It will get worse.

Beamur · 29/02/2024 10:03

You know you're not being unreasonable. A couple of glasses isn't messy.
What's his problem with this?
I guess you have 2 choices. Take 10 minutes before he comes home and just do the superficial cleaning that's triggering him. But to do that, I would knock off some of the other jobs you're doing - just hoover high traffic areas (and not daily).
Or. Point out that this is all that's currently possible with study and looking after the baby.
(You're quite entitled to a bit of downtime with the TV)

Beamur · 29/02/2024 10:04

And yes, I wouldn't marry him either if this attitude continues/worsens. He's not your boss.

Spirallingdownwards · 29/02/2024 10:05

Tell him he is welcome to skip the gym at 5am and use that time to clear up instead.

Singleandproud · 29/02/2024 10:06

Sounds like you need to go away for a couple of days and leave baby with him to sort out and tell him you expect the house tidy when you arrive back

Scaffoldingisugly · 29/02/2024 10:06

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Eyesopenwideawake · 29/02/2024 10:07

His attitude stinks but we're only hearing your side. He cooks 5 (7?) days a week and cleans at weekends. Might your "couple of glasses and some crumbs" be his "cup next to the dishwasher" tipping point?

moonriverandme · 29/02/2024 10:11

If it bothers him, he can tidy before he goes to bed at night. How messy could it then get from 6.15pm to 7pm when he arrives home assuming you're out at university, if you're at home studying there'll only be a mug & plates which are probably on the side or in the sink.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 29/02/2024 10:12

You look after a toddler and study 30-40 hours a week. My question would be why it's your responsibility, when it's him that's triggered by a vouple of cups, and you effectively have a full time job in the week as well (studying 39 hours is a full time job, looking after a 2 year old is a full time job on those days). He gets time in the gym to himself every day and presumably chills in the evening. You're exhausted from doing night wakes. You're not bothered by the cups. If he is worried about them he can move them.

This would all concern me
Why isn't he using his hours free time in the week to sort the house if he is bothered
Why does he think it's OK to tell you what to do
Why does he not understand how much you've got on your plate

In general, men who speak like this still think the home is the woman's responsibility and that childcare isn't real work.

If you went out for a day at the weekend would he happily look after your toddler and keep the house pristine?

Also, you didn't ask this, but I'd consider weaning or night weaning from breastfeeding, at this age its a habit not a need and it must be exhausting you

hayley3212 · 29/02/2024 10:22

Beamur · 29/02/2024 10:03

You know you're not being unreasonable. A couple of glasses isn't messy.
What's his problem with this?
I guess you have 2 choices. Take 10 minutes before he comes home and just do the superficial cleaning that's triggering him. But to do that, I would knock off some of the other jobs you're doing - just hoover high traffic areas (and not daily).
Or. Point out that this is all that's currently possible with study and looking after the baby.
(You're quite entitled to a bit of downtime with the TV)

I guess I wouldn't mind doing that 10 minutes clean before he gets home. But sometimes it just won't be possible. What if my dad calls me? Or our son needs a nappy change? As much as I don't want him to feel stressed about coming home to mess, I also don't want to feel stressed about him coming home and judging me.

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snowisfinethanks · 29/02/2024 10:22

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Very very wise words

snowisfinethanks · 29/02/2024 10:23

Actually when I read your thread title it sent shivers down my back. Not in a good way

hayley3212 · 29/02/2024 10:25

Eyesopenwideawake · 29/02/2024 10:07

His attitude stinks but we're only hearing your side. He cooks 5 (7?) days a week and cleans at weekends. Might your "couple of glasses and some crumbs" be his "cup next to the dishwasher" tipping point?

He cooks because he wants to, not because I won't. He has a very strict diet so I guess he prefers to. Although I have offered to cook, his new diet is new in the sense he's only been following it for a few months so I haven't had time to learn recipes for it. Eventually tho, I would like to cook for him somedays.
And yes I guess I need to have a proper talk and see what specifically triggers him.

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TiIIyM · 29/02/2024 10:27

His reaction seems like its about a lot more than a couple of glasses and some crumbs. If he is reacting like that about something so minor he has issues. If he is coming home to a really messy house and you've been chilling I can half see his point. He's not getting to chill while he's working. But it depends what kind of mess. Maybe he should rethink his daily gym session if he's so hung up on glasses and crumbs. Maybe he could do that bit of cleaning of a morning while you go to the gym.

Picklestop · 29/02/2024 10:27

Well is it a couple of glasses out and a few crumbs or is it a mess? You have said both.

Babla · 29/02/2024 10:30

He is out of order but 30 hours a week childcare for a uni degree sounds over the top

hayley3212 · 29/02/2024 10:31

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 29/02/2024 10:12

You look after a toddler and study 30-40 hours a week. My question would be why it's your responsibility, when it's him that's triggered by a vouple of cups, and you effectively have a full time job in the week as well (studying 39 hours is a full time job, looking after a 2 year old is a full time job on those days). He gets time in the gym to himself every day and presumably chills in the evening. You're exhausted from doing night wakes. You're not bothered by the cups. If he is worried about them he can move them.

This would all concern me
Why isn't he using his hours free time in the week to sort the house if he is bothered
Why does he think it's OK to tell you what to do
Why does he not understand how much you've got on your plate

In general, men who speak like this still think the home is the woman's responsibility and that childcare isn't real work.

If you went out for a day at the weekend would he happily look after your toddler and keep the house pristine?

Also, you didn't ask this, but I'd consider weaning or night weaning from breastfeeding, at this age its a habit not a need and it must be exhausting you

You're right, he definitely doesn't see me as someone who works because I don't bring any money in. He provides everything which I am grateful for but it's not like I am doing nothing and even if I wasn't at uni, looking after a child is still not nothing! In fact I find it much easier to go to uni then have a day with my son, as much as I love him, it is sooooo hard.

I think maybe he doesn't appreciate how hard it is for me. But that's not entirely his fault because I always try to be positive so maybe he just doesn't know. Also thanks re the breastfeeding at night, yes I am trying to stop actually and have been saying that for weeks now! It's not going to plan tho as we end up co sleeping a lot and he will just help himself lol.

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Babla · 29/02/2024 10:32

If he is coming home to a really messy house and you've been chilling I can half see his point.

And this 👆

LittleGreenDragons · 29/02/2024 10:34

If you are both out the house for very long hours how is the house getting so messy?

Look at what the "mess" is, who creates it, and how easy is it to deal with straightaway? Wiping up crumbs immediately after making a sandwich is an easy one to do. Washing up one glass 1 hour before making lunch when all pots could be done in one go afterwards is different but should be done after lunch instead of left until dinner.

For the main housework focus on the must do rather than the want to do. Hoovering everywhere daily is not needed, keeping on top of laundry (especially with a baby) is.

Hercisback · 29/02/2024 10:34

This is a post where I'd love to read his side and the truth will be somewhere in between!

Depends on what you and he mean by mess... A couple of glasses out, fine, a trashed lounge, not fine. Especially if you've been out, who is making all the mess?

Leave them home alone for a day...

BeaRF75 · 29/02/2024 10:35

A house does not need to be cleaned every day - once a week is fine. Does he not understand that?

Nazzywish · 29/02/2024 10:35

OK if he was helping out more and the house was a pigsty then maybe I'd be inclined to say set 30 min aside each day.
But OP he's buggered off out all day ,made time for HIS needs I.e. gym ,leaves the night care to you and is being an absolute idiot for saying this to you.

You need to set some time where others have suggested you go and leave him solo for the day and night with lo for one night so he understands kids make mess!

That magazine perfect crumb free home is fine some days when you can i.e. guests over and want a nice house on show,but you've alot on your plate and life happens at home. So he needs to understand that. Do one quick tidy-up before bedtime and one 30 min burst during ur study day so basics are done in between study.

Minfilia · 29/02/2024 10:36

I can see both sides. But honestly, with one child who is in childcare a lot of the time, superficial tiding and keeping on top of things shouldn’t be too difficult.

Is he splitting evening and weekend work 50/50?

mrsbyers · 29/02/2024 10:38

I honestly think the examples of crumbs on bench and couple of dishes could easily be done before he gets home , he probably prefers the kitchen to be clear for him to cook so not unreasonable. Have you got a dishwasher ? If so then tidying that sort of mess takes seconds

Ghentsummer · 29/02/2024 10:38

I think he is not unreasonable to want you to tidy up after yourself. Leaving things like crumbs on counters and glasses by the sink is quite rude expecting him to clean up after you. In the same way that it would be if he was leaving clothes on the floor/dishes in the sink and expecting you to clean up after him. It just shows a lack of respect for your partner.

It takes 30 seconds to wash a glass or wipe up some crumbs. There is no way being a parent to one toddler stops you doing this.