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When did 50/50 become so common?

698 replies

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 22:24

I have a SC and when contact was set up over 13 years ago it was really common to do EOW with maybe a night in the week. No mention of 50/50 ever. Really common among others too around that time.

but Iv noticed a trend over the last few years that seems to be when you split its now 50/50…

Do more men now want this so they don’t have to pay CMS?

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dimllaishebiaith · 28/02/2024 22:57

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 22:55

Not to the degree women feel it no.

So you have decided that fathers cannot feel like they want to spend as much time with their children as mothers, through your vast experience of being a father....

Or just an assumption on your part?

ConflictedCheetah · 28/02/2024 22:57

EOW was also common back when spousal support was a thing asen were the earners. These days women are expected (rightly) to support themselves financially but if they have the DC almost full time that's obviously so much harder plus they'll have childcare costs.

CinnamonJellyBeans · 28/02/2024 22:57

Good point about the needs of the kids; it must be very unsettling to be moving all your stuff, including school PE kit and hobby stuff twice a week, as well as living in two houses on a rapidly rotating basis. I would not have liked that at all.

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 22:58

dimllaishebiaith · 28/02/2024 22:57

So you have decided that fathers cannot feel like they want to spend as much time with their children as mothers, through your vast experience of being a father....

Or just an assumption on your part?

Forgot I wasn’t allowed an opinion on MN😂

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Jellycatspyjamas · 28/02/2024 22:58

I love spending time with my kids so would want them with me, nothing to do with having equal responsibility, all to do with spending time with them.

I love my kids too, as does their dad. Why should my wish to spend time with them trump his right to do the same?

mrsdineen2 · 28/02/2024 22:59

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 22:58

Forgot I wasn’t allowed an opinion on MN😂

You're allowed an opinion. I'm just sorry your opinion of of your husband and father of your kids is so low.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 28/02/2024 23:00

My husband would be devastated to only see our children EOW if we split up.

They're OUR children, not just mine for him to babysit from time to time. It's not fair on him or the children for me to be selfish and say "I want them with me more so they're staying with me and you can have the dregs". We'd have to be adults and co-parent.

He does an equal share all week at the minute so why should he lose that if we were to split up?

Sausage77 · 28/02/2024 23:01

Interestingly hardly anyone has mentioned children’s best interests on this thread. For some, 50/50 is the right choice; for others (including some in my family) it’s terribly disruptive and traumatic. Children’s wishes should be given a lot more weight than they actually are in practice. Having worked in a related field, anecdotally I’d also say that a significant % of fathers absolutely do go for 50/50 to avoid CM.

dimllaishebiaith · 28/02/2024 23:01

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 22:58

Forgot I wasn’t allowed an opinion on MN😂

Oh you are allowed an opinion

And we are allowed to consider how emotionally intelligent and empathetic that opinion makes you look

But Im pretty sure someone starting a thread thats bound to be controversial that boils down to mums love their children more than dads and dads are only interested in money knew that. Along with the laughing faces and the gripes about MN and stereotypes about posters

I think you are getting exactly what you want.

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 23:03

mrsdineen2 · 28/02/2024 22:59

You're allowed an opinion. I'm just sorry your opinion of of your husband and father of your kids is so low.

Well I’m sorry your ex didn’t give you enough free time away from your kids like you would have preferred instead of being with them.

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NewName24 · 28/02/2024 23:03

Both parents wanted to be involved 10-20 years ago too I’m sure but the default was mostly EOW visitation. No one ever mentioned 50/50.

"No-one" Hmm

When my friends split in 2000, their dc lived with each parent for 50% of the time.

You are talking rubbish OP.

Parents wanting 50:50 split fight for it so they get to spend as much time with their dc as they can when they are separated from the other parent.

theilltemperedclavecinist · 28/02/2024 23:04

mrsdineen2 · 28/02/2024 22:59

You're allowed an opinion. I'm just sorry your opinion of of your husband and father of your kids is so low.

She knows that he sees his eldest child EOW so is extrapolating from that?

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 23:05

dimllaishebiaith · 28/02/2024 23:01

Oh you are allowed an opinion

And we are allowed to consider how emotionally intelligent and empathetic that opinion makes you look

But Im pretty sure someone starting a thread thats bound to be controversial that boils down to mums love their children more than dads and dads are only interested in money knew that. Along with the laughing faces and the gripes about MN and stereotypes about posters

I think you are getting exactly what you want.

There’s nothing controversial about it.

I asked why has the trend changed and is it just because of CMS.

10-20 years ago dads still loved their kids so it’s not based on love for the kids.

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Deargodletitgo · 28/02/2024 23:05

As someone who is actually divorced and has 50 50 custody, the reasons behind it are that our children deserve and need a relationship with both parents. We have a set routine, we deal with any forgotten items and work as a team.

It was a little hard for me t not to be with my kids for half the week,as of was for my ex DH, but a lot less hard than being married to someone I no longer loved.

We earn similar salaries, and don't pay each other any maintenance.

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 23:06

NewName24 · 28/02/2024 23:03

Both parents wanted to be involved 10-20 years ago too I’m sure but the default was mostly EOW visitation. No one ever mentioned 50/50.

"No-one" Hmm

When my friends split in 2000, their dc lived with each parent for 50% of the time.

You are talking rubbish OP.

Parents wanting 50:50 split fight for it so they get to spend as much time with their dc as they can when they are separated from the other parent.

Yes as in no one I knew via personal or work.

Clearly I’m not speaking for the whole planet!

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NeedToChangeName · 28/02/2024 23:08

Sausage77 · 28/02/2024 23:01

Interestingly hardly anyone has mentioned children’s best interests on this thread. For some, 50/50 is the right choice; for others (including some in my family) it’s terribly disruptive and traumatic. Children’s wishes should be given a lot more weight than they actually are in practice. Having worked in a related field, anecdotally I’d also say that a significant % of fathers absolutely do go for 50/50 to avoid CM.

@Sausage77 totally agree. Lots of posts here about how dads want to be equally involved. Hardly any focus on what's best for the children

On other threads, people who had 50 50 as children mostly say they didn't like it. But, I do accept it probably suits some children

PurpleNebula84 · 28/02/2024 23:08

I initially had 50/50 with my ex... 2/2/3 set up and swap the following week... It was definitely so he didn't have to pay maintenance... It was actually as confusing as hell for my daughter as she could never get to grips with where she was going to be, but we did both agree that a week each was too long for her to be without either parent.
It didn't work out well, as I ended up picking up the slack for times he was late getting her... I ended up moving back (30 mins) to where both our families live. He now has her EOW. He doesn't pay maintenance. He's said plenty of times he's doesn't know how I do it and in a round about way admitted that he'd found the 3 months we did do 50/50 way harder than he had thought it would be - I had always been the primary carer.

OrlandointheWilderness · 28/02/2024 23:09

God my DP would love to have his DS 50/50. Unfortunately due to how his work has been it hasn't been possible and we have him EOW and a dinner in the week. Saying that men only want it to reduce CMS is insulting.

Woahtherehoney · 28/02/2024 23:10

We actually have my DSS 60/40 and pay maintenance - my DP absolutely adores his little boy and wants to spend as much time with him as possible.

So no, it isn’t to get out of paying anything 🙄

Revelatio · 28/02/2024 23:10

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 22:30

Let’s be honest... We all know some men do 50/50 to avoid CMS 😂

No, I don’t know any men like this.

imnotgoodenoughtobehere · 28/02/2024 23:10

My husband wanted 50/50 to avoid paying cms as he told me.

SmokedPaprikaPuffs · 28/02/2024 23:11

I can see how alternating weeks wouldn't be in a child's best interests, but I still think every other weekend would be too long for my husband and son not to see each other if we broke up.
Of the two couples I know who co-parent, the dads have weekend time every weekend, sometimes two nights sometimes one. If they get one night at the weekend then they might also get the Wednesday night that week or something.
It's not quite 50/50 but definitely not as harsh as every other weekend.

Deargodletitgo · 28/02/2024 23:11

There seems to be this cult of motherhood, where we are the only ones who can properly love and look after our children. See also: my kids are my world and I don't want to spend a second away from them or have my own life...

Luckylooloostar · 28/02/2024 23:11

Revelatio · 28/02/2024 23:10

No, I don’t know any men like this.

Will take you a whole second to read it on this thread alone.

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TheMushroomFamily · 28/02/2024 23:13

NeedToChangeName · 28/02/2024 23:08

@Sausage77 totally agree. Lots of posts here about how dads want to be equally involved. Hardly any focus on what's best for the children

On other threads, people who had 50 50 as children mostly say they didn't like it. But, I do accept it probably suits some children

Edited

Is eow best for kids? I doubt that’s best for the kids either and it’s a very long time to go without seeing the other parent.