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To want my husband to say something about MIL's comments

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danialan · 28/02/2024 14:16

DH is the youngest child of a very wealthy family, he has an older brother who isn’t as close to their mum as DH is, I suspect I know the reasons (see post below) but have no confirmation.

MIL will constantly make comments to us suggesting that if any decision is made that she disagrees with, it’s a stupid decision and only made by us because we’re young (I’m late 20s, DH mid-30s), inexperienced and probably not as smart as her (no one is!).
Example 1 - we went to Young V&A with our DDs and when MIL called early afternoon as we were on our way back in the car, we told her what we had been up to. MIL’s response was “you kept them indoors for half the day?!”, DH responds that actually the girls loved it, it was super interactive, we’ll send some pics when we get home. She goes “right, um, are you at least planning to take them to the park later today? They need fresh air! How sad for them to be in a stuffy museum”
Example 2 - we were planning to name after my grandma who died during my pregnancy, her name was Arina, and yes I’m from abroad. MIL wouldn’t stop with comments like “at least give it as a middle name… with Wembley as a first name hahaha” (for those from outside UK, Wembley Arena is a massive stadium). And “well she won’t thank you when she’s being bullied” or “and Pitch if he’s a boy, yeah?”
Example 3 - one of my daughters was climbing down from the sofa, she’s done this before successfully many times and I don’t think it’s great parenting to run up to your child any time they’re learning / practicing something and “helping” - they’ll never get the chance to learn or develop muscles! The whole time MIL kept saying “I don’t want to see this” “she’ll fall - do you not care?”
There’s more examples to give if needed but don’t want to make the initial post super long, I know it already will be!

DH doesn’t pressure me to do everything she comments on (although our daughter isn’t called Arina) but I can see that the comments make him upset or uncomfortable, I don’t know which. And in front of her he feels like he has to just do as she says, never stands up to her. For example in the sofa example he will lift her down instead of saying “it’s okay mum, she’s safe, she’s learning, it’s a low sofa and it’s stood on a carpet”, whereas at home he’d let her do it. Suddenly after the museum example he volunteered to take them both to the playground.

On the face of it, MIL loves her son (DH) and just wants what’s best for him, loves our 2 DDs and she wants what’s best for them too. She wants to see them lots and she just also has so much life experience that she can’t wait to share with us, all because, in case it’s not been mentioned, she wants what’s best for us. That’s DH’s interpretation and MIL’s reasoning if questioned about the comments or her overinvolvement.

To avoid a drip feed: she does financially help in the sense that she gifted DH a house in which we currently live and often gives nice “gifts” like a car, baby equipment, nice baby clothes etc and invites us on luxurious holidays (which I actually hate because it’s 24/7 comments on every decision we make and how it’s wrong). However the financial support allows me not to work and be a SAHM which I’m of course grateful for and perhaps should keep my mouth shut?

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DistingusedSocialCommentator · 28/02/2024 14:19

What more do you want?

If someone gifted us a house - trust me, I put up with a lot, lot and lot more than that

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:20

@DistingusedSocialCommentator what else do I want? To not be put down for every single decision I ever make, including where I take my kids.

And she didn't gift me a house - it's in his name with a strong pre nup.

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TheShellBeach · 28/02/2024 14:23

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:20

@DistingusedSocialCommentator what else do I want? To not be put down for every single decision I ever make, including where I take my kids.

And she didn't gift me a house - it's in his name with a strong pre nup.

Really? But you're married.

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/02/2024 14:23

the financial support allows me not to work and be a SAHM

Who pays the piper calls the tune. Your MIL and DH know she's paying to do this. Your choices are to be independent or not. I'd choose independence. But that means you get a job.

Hatty65 · 28/02/2024 14:24

You can't really have your cake and eat it. As long as you allow her to pay for a house, a car, baby stuff, holidays - and financially allow you to be a SAHM then you've trapped yourself into the role of 'dependent and not grown up enough to support themselves'.

Make your choice. Either carry on like proper grown ups and pay your own way without support from Mummy, in which case I'd feel free to say, 'Yeah - mind your own business, Janet. We're raising children our way'.

Or keep putting your hand out for support, in which case expect to suck it up as the poor relation and tolerate her bossy comments.

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/02/2024 14:24

And she didn't gift me a house

So if he divorces you, you're homeless and he has a better chance of getting the DC? Really get a job.

DisforDarkChocolate · 28/02/2024 14:25

This is the price you pay for being bought, even if it's your husband who took the money.

Arina is a beautiful name. You need to learn to grey rock so she doesn't have as much impact on you.

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:25

@MrsTerryPratchett I know that even if I get a job, the gifts won't stop so she will still be bribing DH. Ie he will still be getting expensive cars as gifts, the comments will continue. I know this because it was this way before we had kids and whilst I worked

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danialan · 28/02/2024 14:26

@Hatty65 if I got a job the comments would continue (because they still happened when I had a job). No way would DH stop accepting the gifts, I know that for a fact

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Moonshine5 · 28/02/2024 14:27

In essence unless you become financially independent this will be your life.

FranticHare · 28/02/2024 14:27

You seem happy enough to live off her handouts.

Therefore your put up with her.

Or become independent.

Your choice!

DistingusedSocialCommentator · 28/02/2024 14:27

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:20

@DistingusedSocialCommentator what else do I want? To not be put down for every single decision I ever make, including where I take my kids.

And she didn't gift me a house - it's in his name with a strong pre nup.

So why are you putting up with it?
You in England. I ask as prenups arent worth the paper they are written on so I have read. I stand to be corrected.

Commonsenseisnotsocommon · 28/02/2024 14:27

There really is no such thing as a free lunch. Unfortunately, she now feels entitled to comment and behave that way because her son and you are still acting the part of 'children' by accepting her help, rather than being independent. You can't have it both ways with someone like her feeling she/her money is needed. If it were me, I wouldn't be accepting anything from her and would set firm boundaries on a woman to woman level. He who pays the piper picks the tune...

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:27

@MrsTerryPratchett long story that I didn't want to go into as it would make the post extra long.
I have a house in my own name, in this country (bought with inheritance) and significant savings from that inheritance. But they're nowhere near the money that DH's family has

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stayathomer · 28/02/2024 14:28

I think she’s just very different to you, I know you’ll hate me for this but although the name thing was bad as it was your family name, the other two are things most gps would comment on- not as much fresh air and climbing. I don’t think either of you is wrong, you’ve both just extremely different personalities

saraclara · 28/02/2024 14:29

Sheesh. If you're accepting that level of financial help, you don't have a cat in hell's chance of being seen as mature independent adults. Because you're not.

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:29

To everything saying "don't accept anything from her". My husband does and will 100% continue to. There's no way I can get him to stop.
But I don't want to have the comments.

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saraclara · 28/02/2024 14:30

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:27

@MrsTerryPratchett long story that I didn't want to go into as it would make the post extra long.
I have a house in my own name, in this country (bought with inheritance) and significant savings from that inheritance. But they're nowhere near the money that DH's family has

So why are you accepting all this help? You've got your own house and your own savings, and you can get a job.

Seriously, you both need to cut the cord and live like adults.

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/02/2024 14:31

OK so you tell DH that you are uncomfortable with the current communication. You won't be going on any more holidays with MIL. You won't be entertaining any more helpful suggestions and you will be ignoring it all at best. Because most of her suggestions seem benign (a trip to the park is lovely) you'll stop there. But any actively harmful stuff you will say something.

What I said to DH about FIL was, "if he emotionally harms my child, he will never set foot in this house again" and I meant it. FIL behaved (because he knew I meant it) and we have a truce. But he doesn't pay for cars and holidays!

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:31

@saraclara none of the gifts are to me. My DH is accepting the help (and yes I know I benefit from living in a nice house!). I can't exactly say to him "your mum isn't allowed to gift you X". I know for a fact he wouldn't stop accepting the gifts.

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Stopwiththedamnrain · 28/02/2024 14:32

So she's "bought" you and your family and have infantalised you both by doing so and she thinks she can tell you how to run your family? If the elder son is lower contact he probably has it right. In my minds eye I envisage her as the Dowager Countess of Grantham from Downton Abbey 😂

Maybe get back to work and sort out accommodation elsewhere so you can both be more independent and less beholden to her. Otherwise you'll have to put up and shut up as I doubt she'll take well to any reasonable feedback from your DH (who needs to stand up to her).

Commonsenseisnotsocommon · 28/02/2024 14:32

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:29

To everything saying "don't accept anything from her". My husband does and will 100% continue to. There's no way I can get him to stop.
But I don't want to have the comments.

Then you'll have to either get your dh to speak up and set boundaries or put your big girl pants on and manage it yourself. You are both reinforcing the needy parent/child dynamic by not standing on your own two feet.

PussInBin20 · 28/02/2024 14:32

Just ignore the comments and do what you want anyway. Let it wash over you. I know it’s annoying but you’re letting her get to you. Just pretend she didn’t say it and carry on as you would.

Shetlands · 28/02/2024 14:33

If you don't want the comments and your husband won't say anything then you'll have to. Tell her you know she means well but you find her constant criticisms emotionally exhausting and they're wearing down your self esteem. Tell her you'd find it easier to accept her 'advice' if she also made positive comments about your mothering but it's too skewed towards the negative.

You have nothing to lose because you don't want or need her gifts so she can't bribe you even if that works with your DH.

Herdinggoats · 28/02/2024 14:33

I’m not sure you can want to be respected for being intelligent and independent if you are not working and a SAHM on her money and are taking cars, holidays and other gifts.

If you and your partner can’t afford the lifestyle that you want and don’t want to have to listen to her comments then you need to go back to work.

Im hoping I’ve been suckered into a reverse or troll post here.

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