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To not go? Would this annoy you?

274 replies

TurnOfTheBrew · 26/02/2024 14:30

I'll try and keep it brief...!

I have a good friend who has a wedding coming up. We have been friends for many years, close with each others children etc..

There has been a holiday planned with a number of people for 1 week as a joint hen and stag do. I have been invited. Bride and groom aren't big drinkers so I don't doubt that it won't be a big boozing holiday and I'm sure will be lovely.

However, I don't personally really get these types of holidays, they just aren't for me. I don't like going and being with people I may not know very well and also leaving my children behind etc. I'd rather just go away with DH and the kids.

So I have just said sorry, but it's not my cup of tea, hope she has a lovely time etc... Will do something nice together another time.

AIBU? There is a person involved in the planning who seems quite annoyed by this and me not "putting myself out" for a friends big do.

Is it really a requirement of friendship to do something you really don't like the idea of for them? One evening for a party or one night away yes of course but I find that quite different to being asked to pay hundreds of pounds and spend a week away from your children.

OP posts:
Wexone · 29/02/2024 14:50

ChocolateCakeOverspill · 29/02/2024 13:59

Completely disagree, this is all on whoever organised the hen do and not the bridesmaids responsibility at all.

It's quite normal for all bridemaids to be in discussion of what to do for hen party etc. why didn't op express her concerns then ? before it was all agreede and set in stone

ChocolateCakeOverspill · 29/02/2024 18:42

I don’t know because I’m not the OP, but you’re absolutely right they should have been involved in the planning. Don’t know if they were or the plans were just announced

LittleCharlotte · 01/03/2024 07:30

Wexone · 29/02/2024 14:50

It's quite normal for all bridemaids to be in discussion of what to do for hen party etc. why didn't op express her concerns then ? before it was all agreede and set in stone

Because it never happens that one person's feelings are run roughshod over...

I voted YANBU. A good friend will get it. My friend had a big hen do which I couldn't afford so I didn't go; she had a dinner with those of us who couldn't make it. Simples.

One of the best hen dos ever was my friend's pyjama party... We all stayed in a house, did our nails and ate food in our pyjamas. Easy and what it should be all about.

Wexone · 01/03/2024 07:36

LittleCharlotte · 01/03/2024 07:30

Because it never happens that one person's feelings are run roughshod over...

I voted YANBU. A good friend will get it. My friend had a big hen do which I couldn't afford so I didn't go; she had a dinner with those of us who couldn't make it. Simples.

One of the best hen dos ever was my friend's pyjama party... We all stayed in a house, did our nails and ate food in our pyjamas. Easy and what it should be all about.

Disagree it she said its not my cup of tea which is quiet direct to tje planner so she is coming across as a person well able to speak her mind. I actually think there is more to this story than she saying. Everyone has different ideas of what consists a good night -a pyjama party is not "my cup of tea" either - she should have spoken up earlier

Libra24 · 01/03/2024 12:30

Of course you don't have to go and you don't have to make any pretence about it either.

I might try to go for a few days tbh, the weekend or whatever. Just because I like things like that but I wouldn't do a week. Excessive. Kids or not I like to use my leave how I like. And I wouldn't do a week away with out my kids as my own preference.

HelenTherese2 · 01/03/2024 14:10

Fitzbillie · 26/02/2024 17:27

That’s kind of my point.

”Not my cup of tea” is a very dismissive phrase. It just conveys that OP doesn’t want to do it just because she doesn’t want to.

As you say, it’s understandable that not everyone will want or be able to give up a week for a hen do. So just say that instead of “not my cup of tea”.

Nah I’ve declined in the past like this. Why lie?

People need to be mature enough to get the fact that not everyone wants to do the same things they do. Why baby them?

ChocolateCakeOverspill · 01/03/2024 14:33

It's not my cup of tea is fine. It’s much better than the real answer which is ‘it sounds like the sort of thing I’d hate and I’d rather put pins in my eyes than do it’.

If someone says it’s not my cup of tea that’s a polite way of saying ‘we’re beyond me being able to tolerate this for a friend’. For example; I’ll go for a girls night out even though I don’t particularly enjoy them, just to be sociable, but a bottomless brunch or psychic night with the girls is ‘not my cup of tea’ because I hate the very idea of it and just won’t put myself through that.

ChocolateCakeOverspill · 01/03/2024 14:36

HelenTherese2 · 01/03/2024 14:10

Nah I’ve declined in the past like this. Why lie?

People need to be mature enough to get the fact that not everyone wants to do the same things they do. Why baby them?

Edited

Exactly this! I hate it when people lie to get out of things. It really makes me disrespect them, as it’s usually a really obvious lie.

Koalasparkles · 02/03/2024 00:36

StaunchMomma · 26/02/2024 18:51

I wouldn't leave my kid for a week unless I absolutely had to. A hen do is not a good reason to dump your family off and go get pissed, especially if you don't even want to. The expectations are way too high.

The friend is being a dick.

Edited

What a weird (and judgemental) attitude. Being your own person and spending time with your friends is not dumping your kids or family 🤦🏼‍♀️

Bearbooandmiska · 02/03/2024 08:56

I think as a bridesmaid yes your expected to attend the Hen party. I wouldn't completely rule out going but compromise and maybe attend for a couple of nights. I understand you don't like the idea of it but thsts just it it's an idea which you haven't actually tried. If I was the bride I would be a bit upset that someone I felt close enough to, to have as my bridesmaid just straight up said no and didn't make any effort at all to compromise.

RampantIvy · 02/03/2024 09:00

Bearbooandmiska · 02/03/2024 08:56

I think as a bridesmaid yes your expected to attend the Hen party. I wouldn't completely rule out going but compromise and maybe attend for a couple of nights. I understand you don't like the idea of it but thsts just it it's an idea which you haven't actually tried. If I was the bride I would be a bit upset that someone I felt close enough to, to have as my bridesmaid just straight up said no and didn't make any effort at all to compromise.

If bridesmaids are expected to attend I would hope that they would have been consulted at the planning stage rather than have it presented as a fait accompli, don't you think?

It's a big ask to expect someone to give up a week of AL and pay £££ for the privilege.

WhatNoRaisins · 02/03/2024 09:05

The tradition of the chief bridesmaid organising it as a fair accompli was probably all well and good when it was just a night out with local friends. You can't just do this when it's a whole expensive week and travel and just assume everyone will fall in line.

LittleCharlotte · 02/03/2024 22:11

Wexone · 01/03/2024 07:36

Disagree it she said its not my cup of tea which is quiet direct to tje planner so she is coming across as a person well able to speak her mind. I actually think there is more to this story than she saying. Everyone has different ideas of what consists a good night -a pyjama party is not "my cup of tea" either - she should have spoken up earlier

Not quite sure what your point is on this one about who likes what, but my point was a general one. As you say, everyone's idea of a good night out is different but a week's holiday is quite extravagant, lovely though it would be.

I'm not sure when this trip was planned but if the OP backed out after all arrangements were made that's poor form as everyone else will have to pay extra. It doesn't sound like this was the case though. Nor that it's something she can just do for a weekend. But the bride matters more than the maid of honour as she's the friend.

StaunchMomma · 03/03/2024 02:09

Koalasparkles · 02/03/2024 00:36

What a weird (and judgemental) attitude. Being your own person and spending time with your friends is not dumping your kids or family 🤦🏼‍♀️

Edited

For a WEEK?! And on a hen do you don't even want to go to?!

There are plenty of threads on here in which women slag off men for selfishly going away on golfing trips and long, foreign stag-do's.

It works both ways.

puzzledout · 03/03/2024 05:09

TurnOfTheBrew · 26/02/2024 17:32

just conveys that OP doesn’t want to do it just because she doesn’t want to

I mean that is the reason though. I don't want to go because I don't want to go to things like this.

And a perfectly valid reason! I don't fancy it!

Well done for not indulging the bride etc!

puzzledout · 03/03/2024 05:17

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 27/02/2024 16:39

Hell would freeze over before I'd use a whole week of annual leave for a hen/stag do with strangers. Annual leave is precious - I choose what I do with it, where I go and who with.

This

Nofilteritwonthelp · 03/03/2024 05:23

I'm in two minds. One is if you don't want to go, you shouldn't. The other is, it's nice to make an effort for people you care about. It's very sad when people organise things to celebrate something and no one can be bothered to turn up.

Hayliebells · 03/03/2024 09:56

Dotdashdottinghell · 26/02/2024 14:32

That sort of thing is probably fun in your early 20s, but once there's a family to consider it's just very self indulgent to think people will want to give a weeks leave and a load of money to go on your hen do. Absolutely fine to stay no.

💯

Hayliebells · 03/03/2024 10:00

@Nofilteritwonthelp that's reasonable when it's a local evening do, that will involve minimal logistical manoeuvres and financial outlay on behalf of those attending. When it involves holidays away, that argument no longer holds. If a bride really mainly cared about getting together with people to celebrate an important event, they'd organise an evening out that's local to most people attending. One Hen do I went on was simply a gathering at one of the hen's houses. It was great fun, and very considerate of everyone's budgets and time constraints. Anything else is just self indulgence, especially if you get the hump when people don't go.

wronginalltherightways · 03/03/2024 10:09

webs1991 · 28/02/2024 18:35

I clicked you are being unreasonable and I’m shocked that it was so low really - to not even go for a couple nights to support your friend is a bit miserable and as for you don’t enjoy that type of thing that’s fine but it’s not really for you it’s for your friend so I feel like there’s an expectation there to support even if it wasn’t your thing. I did go to a long weekend hen for 3 nights in Manchester at the time my baby was 1 I stayed the full time 2 others left one day early for different reasons one was childcare another one had something else on but still showed up for friend and it was nice to have a break too. As you have said it is a good friend you have known for many years that’s the bit I feel like makes you seem unreasonable in your choice not to go because just from my own perspective I did decline a similar hen situation but I only knew the bride and this wasn’t well at all (literally only met a handful of times as both new mums and connected on peanut app) and didn’t know anyone else so did feel like I’d not be missed kind of thing but I feel like for a very close friend I’d want to support them. I think I’d be confused if someone declined my hen but then wanted to do something on their terms which I feel is what you are doing and it feels a bit entitled sorry!

I think it's more entitled to ask other people to spend their hard-earned money and limited holiday time (when they have their own time/financial commitments) on 'me me me' over-the-top extravaganzas. And I would 1001% advise ANYONE to not go into debt for someone else's party or 'special day'.

Decent friends get that and don't put their friends and loved ones in that position in the first place.

Koalasparkles · 06/03/2024 13:27

StaunchMomma · 03/03/2024 02:09

For a WEEK?! And on a hen do you don't even want to go to?!

There are plenty of threads on here in which women slag off men for selfishly going away on golfing trips and long, foreign stag-do's.

It works both ways.

Yes, love, even for a week. Why not?

If you show me where this mum gets plenty of time away from their kids and is constantly dumping on her partner, you might have a point. However, I don't see any evidence of that. Plus dads are also most welcome to well earned breaks from their children too.

Koalasparkles · 06/03/2024 13:34

Nofilteritwonthelp · 03/03/2024 05:23

I'm in two minds. One is if you don't want to go, you shouldn't. The other is, it's nice to make an effort for people you care about. It's very sad when people organise things to celebrate something and no one can be bothered to turn up.

I agree with this, but at the end of the day you can't make people care or want to do something that they don't want to. The OP is free to go or not go without pressure and her friend is free to think of that how she likes too. And we can all think how we like about the whole thing. It's the great freedom we have. But, yes, I agree - personally I would try everything I could to be there at a good friend's hen do, even of it was something I didn't massively fancy doing.

My mother in law is a great "no thanks, not my thing" with no more explanation kind of person. It probably makes her very happy. It does leave us feeling like she doesn't massively care about us though sometimes 😅

StaunchMomma · 06/03/2024 14:03

Koalasparkles · 06/03/2024 13:27

Yes, love, even for a week. Why not?

If you show me where this mum gets plenty of time away from their kids and is constantly dumping on her partner, you might have a point. However, I don't see any evidence of that. Plus dads are also most welcome to well earned breaks from their children too.

Edited

We're allowed to disagree, you know!

I wouldn't want a week away from my family, especially not a 'well earned break' with friends, or for a hen do or whatever. I'm glad DP has never wanted to swan off with the lads for a week, either.

That's what our twenties were for.

Why would OP need 'plenty of time away' from her kids?

Koalasparkles · 06/03/2024 16:33

StaunchMomma · 06/03/2024 14:03

We're allowed to disagree, you know!

I wouldn't want a week away from my family, especially not a 'well earned break' with friends, or for a hen do or whatever. I'm glad DP has never wanted to swan off with the lads for a week, either.

That's what our twenties were for.

Why would OP need 'plenty of time away' from her kids?

Edited

Of course we're allowed to disagree, but only one of us was judging.

Sheesh, though, "swanning off"? I'd like to think my life didn't stop being my own in my 20s and I had plenty of fun things to look forward to as my own person or with my friends as I get older.

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