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Needtonamechange9 · 24/02/2024 23:00

So I'm pretty certain I'm in the right.

I've been talking to this guy on the Bumble app for almost 2 months. Finally pinned down a date we could both meet (tonight).

I spent time getting ready and uberring 30 mins to see him and this is what happens. I'm the grey one.

I'm still in shock and on way home. If you read the rest of the messages from before today this guy seemed SO NORMAL!!!! Has a good job, kids.... WTF!!!!

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OP posts:
redboots765 · 25/02/2024 12:11

Thank to PP who suggested some emojis have different meanings, for example unicorn.

Just had a google!!! 😳 I had no idea...good job I'm not OLD, I'd be clueless. Another lesson for the teenage girls.

willWillSmithsmith · 25/02/2024 12:12

This man is 48 so his friend has to be around his age group. Don’t tell me a woman in her forties just turns up at a male friend’s house unannounced (no phone call, no text) because she has ‘boyfriend’ troubles. Nope! Not buying that for a minute!

Minniliscious · 25/02/2024 12:12

OP - have you had anymore messages from the creep today?

mirax · 25/02/2024 12:14

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/02/2024 11:57

Drinks , chatting a film. A threesome !!! Bloody hell. He'd be mad to see you again.

Bloody hell yourself. Chilling out with a woman who was desperately distraught only mere minutes ago and who he broke his date for? A woman whose existence cannot be proved?

Dont worry too much about the man - Op has better standards than you and unlikely to regret her decision.

wronginalltherightways · 25/02/2024 12:14

ItsallIeverwanted · 25/02/2024 10:45

I met my husband through an old-fashioned dating agency (do they still exist?) a couple of decades ago, I met lots of very nice men, but also got chatting to many of them during the dates (I didn't drink, they always did) and what I learned was that even though they were paying £££ to meet Ms Right, they would be happy with a shag as an outcome of the evening, and so tried it on with pretty much most of their dates in a kind of ask and see what you get way. Only one was pushy and put his hands on me and he got thrown out of the dating agency, unfortunately meeting men in the wild doesn't have these type of back ups.

For those saying that dating and meeting horrible men, is all about luck- this thread is an opportunity to learn about getting luckier, by avoiding them on day one.

The easiest way to tell if something is bullshit is do the 'sniff' test. So, in this instance, think about your 46 year old husband, or even your 46 year old self. How many times has a female friend come around to your house, your home (not called) because they were very upset about a boyfriend in the past 6 months? Called at the house? On a Sat night? Ok, so I know that's a nope, because I have a lot of female friends who go through crises regularly and none just turn up at my house, they would call me, and see me when I was available, even in a crisis. See also my grandma was in hospital and this left me unable to call you for days. Again, when your grandma has been very ill in hospital- how many times has this happened in the last, say 6 months, to the state you have been unable to use a mobile phone for many days? O

These stories are used because they make the person seem kind and sympathetic. Unfortunately, they are lies. Perhaps he has a female flatmate, or no friend, or a male friend. It doesn't matter, it's a lie.

If, by some miracle, you are the statistical outlier who happens to be going on a date (near him, 5 min from his house, paid for in an Uber by him, all red flags to file), and he needed to change the arrangements, he wouldn't say- hey come over anyway and we can have a fun night with my friend (while she is crying?), he would write this:

'Hi X', I'm so sorry but I don't think I can leave my friend, she's very distraught, I think I'm going to have to cancel. I am so so sorry, I know you have travelled to see me, and I really appreciate it. I will pay for your Uber back. I totally understand if you don't want to see me again as this is such a let down, but would it be ok if I contacted you again in a few days and suggested a daytime meeting somewhere convenient for you. Again, I am so sorry'

He wouldn't write, hey, my friend is still up for a fun night and music, come over!!!!

Seriously, even if you aren't intending to date, you need to be giving your teens good advice on how to keep safe and do fun dating, both your male and female teens- and some of the advice on here is unsafe and blind to some very common tropes in the dating scene.

I taught my girls to always go with their gut even if they can't put their finger on why or they might be wrong. Always remove yourself and then work it out. Be impolite, get off the bus, leave the house, don't just sit there being polite. Politeness is deadly for women.

I think everyone who is out there trying to meet someone needs to read this post, because it's very spot on.

We need to remind our daughters, our sisters, are friends to Trust your gut,
trust your gut, trust your gut, trust your gut.

OP was right to go home.

Rec0veringAcademic · 25/02/2024 12:14

Besttobe8001 · 24/02/2024 23:14

Are you all reading different messages from me??

On a first date and he wanted her to go to his place and chill with some random woman she doesn't know?

Of course he was testing her boundaries, any person with self respect and self preservation would say FUCK NO to that preposterous suggestion.

This! What a disrespectful weirdo... honestly, if men get away with this sort of shit these days, I despair for women's future.

BigFluffyHoodie · 25/02/2024 12:16

I haven't read RTFT, but his idea of calling you an Uber was a red flag for me as well - never give a random man on the internet your address!

EmmaEmerald · 25/02/2024 12:18

@Needtonamechange9 did you have a video call before meeting?

PringPring · 25/02/2024 12:20

Also, I'm blown away by the voting results and can only assume you've been shared on some weird incel or Tate board somewhere. No woman in her right mind would have gone to this chancer's house!!

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/02/2024 12:23

mirax · 25/02/2024 12:14

Bloody hell yourself. Chilling out with a woman who was desperately distraught only mere minutes ago and who he broke his date for? A woman whose existence cannot be proved?

Dont worry too much about the man - Op has better standards than you and unlikely to regret her decision.

😂 thanks. My standards are fine. If a man invited me over my first thoughts wouldn’t be a threesome.

mirax · 25/02/2024 12:24

Trulyme · 25/02/2024 12:02

You completely overreacted.

I don’t know why you kept talking about sex, when he never once mentioned it.

Honestly, it sounds as though you were jealous he had a female friend and it comes across like you were being very jealous and a bit petty.

I would be annoyed that he didn’t tell her he had plans straight away and this would be a red flag for me.

I would have simply messaged that you want to stick to the original plans of meeting at the botanist just the 2 of you, but if he’d rather spend time with his friend then you’ll go home because you don’t want to waste your time.

If you are female, you exemplify toxic femininity and dick pandering. Accusing another woman of over-reaction and jealousy on behalf of a very dodgy man is the epitome of mean girl syndrome. Do better.

Btw, expectations of sex need not be explicitly stated for them to be there. There are such things as contextual clues.

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/02/2024 12:24

willWillSmithsmith · 25/02/2024 12:03

You don’t bring someone else along on a genuine date. Surely you can see that!

Of course I do , but can you just dump a distraught friend. He was probably trying to think of a solution.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 25/02/2024 12:25

@thepastinsidethepresent Okay I apologise for being repetitive.
I don't apologise or accept the claim of being patronising.

Many, many posters here have raised their eyebrows at meeting an unknown man late in the evening.

To suggest 10pm (even if the time was changed to 9.30) is still questionable. That's the time many first dates end, not start.

One poster suggested (as I would) that it's more usual to meet for a drink at 7 or 8 then perhaps go for a meal.

And there are the other issues of it being close to his home but not hers.

Other posters saying the same thing have been applauded for giving sensible advice.

We all have our own opinions on it and, at the end of the day, being safe is the point.

mirax · 25/02/2024 12:25

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/02/2024 12:23

😂 thanks. My standards are fine. If a man invited me over my first thoughts wouldn’t be a threesome.

If you are female, you exemplify toxic femininity and dick pandering. Accusing another woman of over-reaction and jealousy on behalf of a very dodgy man is the epitome of mean girl syndrome. Do better.

Btw, expectations of sex need not be explicitly stated for them to be there. There are such things as contextual clues.

TheSnakeCharmer · 25/02/2024 12:25

I don't think that he was after a threesome. Much more likely is that he was using the excuse of there being another female at his address to lure you into a false sense of security in the hope that you would go round so that he could rape and murder you!

Either that or he is a genuine non committal flakey 48 year old divorced man with kids who is so readily emotionally available that he likes to provide a shoulder for vulnerable women to cry on at 10pm on a Saturday night! To be honest, that's an even less likely scenario, particularly if he is divorced. Even less likely that he is such a softee that he would consider his female friends feelings, but not yours and be totally unaware of why a lone female might prefer not to meet a stranger late at night at his home address. It doesn't add up.

Either way you did well to leave.

madeinmanc · 25/02/2024 12:26

I'm actually really glad for you, @Needtonamechange9 , that you didn't get caught in his trap and either would have had to turn down a threesome (I've been there and it's as embarrassing as hell) or- in the other scenario- assaulted or even murdered. Thank God you have got your wits about you and are safe today. It's a lesson for us all.

willWillSmithsmith · 25/02/2024 12:26

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/02/2024 12:23

😂 thanks. My standards are fine. If a man invited me over my first thoughts wouldn’t be a threesome.

Context though? Come on, it was odd and you know it. The dots don’t join up.

SweetcornFritter · 25/02/2024 12:27

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/02/2024 12:23

😂 thanks. My standards are fine. If a man invited me over my first thoughts wouldn’t be a threesome.

Really? A man you’d never met before but arranged to date invites you over to his flat at 10pm where he is entertaining another woman and says you can all have a good time together and it wouldn’t cross your mind thst he was looking for a threesome? Amazing!

willWillSmithsmith · 25/02/2024 12:28

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/02/2024 12:24

Of course I do , but can you just dump a distraught friend. He was probably trying to think of a solution.

😁🙄 you’d randomly bring a mate along to a first date. Yes course you would.

So distraught she was up for shits and giggles not five minutes later?

CantHaveTooMuchChocolate · 25/02/2024 12:29

Usually when people invite others over its for sex.

Erm no, not for me anyway, it’s usually for a cuppa and a chat 😅

I’d have binned him off after 30 mins though when he said he was with someone else, who does that when you’ve arranged a first date ffs?! Just disrespectful unless it’s a proper excuse like illness, etc. As for asking you to visit while his “friend” is supposedly there is just bizarre, but then so is your assumption he wants a threesome!

Psychonabike · 25/02/2024 12:30

Good for you @Needtonamechange9 trusting your instincts on this.

I wouldn't have guessed what he was up to, but your spidey senses were tingling and his insipid response to your threesome accusation speaks volumes. If you were wrong, you'd have had a strong denial at that point.

beatrix1234 · 25/02/2024 12:30

This doesn’t sound like a 48 y old at all. I’m in that age range and if a friend in your 40’s shows up at your door with boyfriend drama you call your date (not text), politely explain her the situation, cancel the date and re schedule for a more convenient time.

If this man is really 48, he sounds like … Fred West.

littlebopeepp234 · 25/02/2024 12:30

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/02/2024 12:23

😂 thanks. My standards are fine. If a man invited me over my first thoughts wouldn’t be a threesome.

Regardless of if he was trying to set up a threesome, are you saying your first thoughts wouldn’t be if a man from a dating app invited you over to his house at 10pm be that he was just after sex and that he genuinely was in the situation he was claiming to be in?

mirax · 25/02/2024 12:30

willWillSmithsmith · 25/02/2024 12:26

Context though? Come on, it was odd and you know it. The dots don’t join up.

It is sad but there is ample proof on this thread that joined up thinking is beyond many. At least OP was alert enough.

Erdinger · 25/02/2024 12:30

I think you did the right thing by not going to his house . I’m not sure I would have accused him of trying to organise a threesome though that sounds a bit random .

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