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To ask what your 'glass next to the dishwasher' moment was?

630 replies

Rosesareradish · 24/02/2024 21:23

Or is it the straw that broke the camels back?

I was working today, so I asked DP to get something out of the freezer to defrost for dinner. He was at home with the children, I was working until 6. At lunch time I text to say I would go to Aldi after work so I'd be late home.

I got home at 7.15, I unloaded the car and he put the shopping away. I went for a wee and said goodnight to the children. I then went in to the living room to ask what was for dinner. Nothing! He didn't get anything out of the freezer, he gave the children soup for tea and he had a nice sausage roll he'd bought.

No thought whatsoever to me eating. My irked face probably gave me away and he suggested I have cereal or cook something I'd just bought from Aldi.

AAAARGH.
AIBU to be so annoyed? I would never have left him without dinner after working. Especially if he then went and did the weekly shop afterwards (which he never does anyway..!)

OP posts:
Monkeytrousers04 · 28/02/2024 12:04

Atethehalloweenchocs · 28/02/2024 10:28

There is a thing in the news today about the exercise gap between men and women and that ALL women face barriers to exercise at some point in their lives. This jumped out at me

'Perhaps unsurprisingly, the research has unearthed men's perceptions of the challenges women face are different to the reality. Only 34% of men recognised lack of time as a barrier to exercise, despite the vast number of UK women citing the issue.
Instead, men thought 'body insecurities' were the leading problem, with 58% attributing this as the main barrier. Of the top five barriers perceived by men, only one (costs) actually featured in the list of most common obstacles reported by women, highlighting the disparity within understanding the issue.'

The level of disconnect is frightening.

Really frightening but totally relatable…

lightwhiteongrey · 28/02/2024 12:13

With every post I read it's becoming clearer to me that this apparent lack of empathy/sympathy/thoughtfulness partnered with selfishness/entitlement/laziness etc followed by shameful, usually irrational, often bordering on ridiculous but definitely 'squirmy' self vindication, is a lot more common amongst our male companions than I imagined! 😳It would be easy to just blame the personalities of each individual DB/DP/DH but I have a real suspicion that it actually goes a lot deeper than that based on the issues which several posters have mentioned and cannot be ignored! 😠Sadly 'comrades' we are and have always been 'up against it' one way or another with the 'males of the species' and with the encouragement of the likes of Mr Tate and his merry band of incels and misogynists 'ain't nothing going to change anytime soon' and we Just need to keep calling it out...LOUDLY!! 🙄

It starts young. I saw a group of teenagers at a local attraction. They were clearly on a school trip but not being supervised and were behaving badly ( later heard the attraction staff complaining loudly about them on their walkie talkies and warning other staff about them). They sat down to eat and left a huge mess of rubbish on the ground. Two of the girls in the group, complaining about the mess, started to clean it up and NOT ONE of these arrogant, entitled teenage boys joined in to help. They just laughed at the girls doing it, and sat there watching them do it.

Pixiedust1234 · 28/02/2024 12:24

Valeriekat · 27/02/2024 07:52

@Pixiedust1234

He's just the usual British white entitled male
fixed that for you

So in a long post about being emotionally battered and abused since childhood , in a long thread about emotionally abusive partners, you thought it appropriate to do another side swipe? Lovely.

My reference to British white was because another poster asked if it was cultural.

Caniaskyousomething · 28/02/2024 13:17

Pinkdaffodils900 · 26/02/2024 08:50

Everything I did was wrong, always. At one point he told me I should never make any decisions without talking to him because I didn't think things through, and my self esteem was so low at this point that I just accepted it. 'You never think' was a common refrain when I did anything that displeased him, which could be something as inconsequential as smiling at someone. Nearly a decade later and I am happily married to a wonderful man but I still panic if I get something wrong, like if dinner isn't perfect, and say 'sorry, I never think.' Luckily DH knows where that comes from and is always ready with a cuddle. God it terrifies me what I was willing to settle for before, not knowing what healthy relationship looked like (I watched my mum ignore a million 'glass by the dishwasher' moments as I grew up.)

I'm ashamed to say I never left him, he dumped me by text when he failed to sever the close bond I had with my mum and sisters and I was heartbroken at the time as he'd done such a number on me. But I can remember a moment when he angrily criticised me for apparently walking too heavily and disturbing people - it was the middle of the day, I was the lightest I've ever been in my adult life because he had me on one of those VLCD programmes and there was a load of traffic noise anyway. I didn't leave, but that was the moment I realised he just enjoyed being cruel.

oh this is so sad to read @Pinkdaffodils900
I'm glad you're happier now though.

FrenchBoule · 28/02/2024 13:41

MoistTowelette · 27/02/2024 15:21

We used to live/work in SE Asia so hot and humid. Every single time we went out with our young children and stopped to have a drink, snack, lunch etc. he'd quickly order for himself whilst I was sitting down and settling the kids. We would then have to wait for waiter to come back to take our orders. His drink would arrive and he'd sit there and drink an ice cold drink whilst we were waiting, commenting how thirsty he was. His food would come out earlier than ours and we would watch him start to eat. My food would come and he'd pick bits off my plate despite having just eaten. Same with dessert too. It was like a weird race. Drove me batshit.

I’d have stabbed the bastard with the fork. Selfish git.

Cariadm · 28/02/2024 15:48

Atethehalloweenchocs · 28/02/2024 10:28

There is a thing in the news today about the exercise gap between men and women and that ALL women face barriers to exercise at some point in their lives. This jumped out at me

'Perhaps unsurprisingly, the research has unearthed men's perceptions of the challenges women face are different to the reality. Only 34% of men recognised lack of time as a barrier to exercise, despite the vast number of UK women citing the issue.
Instead, men thought 'body insecurities' were the leading problem, with 58% attributing this as the main barrier. Of the top five barriers perceived by men, only one (costs) actually featured in the list of most common obstacles reported by women, highlighting the disparity within understanding the issue.'

The level of disconnect is frightening.

Whilst what is suggested in the first sentence is probably an accurate assertion I do wonder, relating back to my post, just how many men actually even get to 'first base' on this!🙄 It would seem that they don't understand or even acknowledge that women might actually have 'challenges' that could be seriously affecting them mentally and/or physically, and even when this does occur to them they don't seem in a hurry to adjust their behaviour or make any allowances for it whatsoever?! 😏😥

Fernticket · 28/02/2024 16:00

OooScotland · 25/02/2024 14:05

@Deafdonkey You really need to stop feeding him.

I was going to suggest feeding him some little 'extras' to improve the taste - such as weed killer, rat poison ect. Only joking, no-one is worth doing time for, LOL 😁

Atethehalloweenchocs · 28/02/2024 16:55

Yes, @Cariadm I think you are right. It is the default men syndrome - everything defaults to a male viewpoint so there is no conception that there may be another way to look at things. But a lot of willful blindness too.

Fruitandclottedcream · 28/02/2024 17:18

I herniated a disc in my back and had sciatica down both legs. I was out of action for over a month because anything beyond standing and lying flat triggered the pain.
My husband didn't do a single load of washing because he "hates doing laundry". And then when I'd recovered enough to be able to do things around the house, he expected me to catch up on a month's worth of dirty laundry, even though I'd been told to take it easy.

The worst part? Six months prior to this, he had abdominal surgery and I cared for him for a month while he recovered. All aspects of care, including personal care, not just keeping on top of the house. I felt so unappreciated and unvalued.

I didn't do the laundry. I told him it was his responsibility, to sort and pay for out of his share of our disposable income because I wasn't letting it come out of my share or out of the monthly family budget.

I also gave him an ultimatum. Therapy to get to the bottom of why he's like that and make him a better, more caring husband. Or divorce. He picked therapy and thankfully several months on things are a lot better.

AliciaTried · 28/02/2024 18:45

@Fruitandclottedcream well done.

Winnading · 28/02/2024 19:37

Bowbobobo · 28/02/2024 10:00

financial independence. Financial Independence. FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE. The thing all girls should be taught from day 1. It gives us control and gives us choices.

Absolutely, and the tools to recognise red flags, and the knowledge that living alone is feasible and not a stain on ones character, and, well I could go on and on.
But yes financial independence, along with the ability to not give it up, whether from having children (lots of women go part time etc) or financial abuse or insert other reason I cant think of cos menopause.

Agapornis · 29/02/2024 01:37

Ex housemate rather than partner. I came home, his parents were visiting but the hoover was on. I poked my head around the living room door and there was his mum, hoovering. I told her that's her son's job, she said she didn't mind. I later asked my housemate why - according to him she enjoyed cleaning...
Months later I caught his mum alone and asked about her son's general lack of willingness to do housework. She said she wanted him to have a fun childhood so he never had to do any choresHmm Amusingly she was forever worried about her lazy son's lack of a partner, I wonder why he wasn't a catch...

Merida46 · 29/02/2024 15:25

I would have taken something large out of the freezer and hit the bastard on the head with it!!

ftp · 29/02/2024 15:37

AliciaTried · 28/02/2024 18:45

@Fruitandclottedcream well done.

@Fruitandclottedcream Well done you! Think it's a bit late for mine, but I do remind him from time to time

Cariadm · 29/02/2024 16:06

lightwhiteongrey · 28/02/2024 12:13

With every post I read it's becoming clearer to me that this apparent lack of empathy/sympathy/thoughtfulness partnered with selfishness/entitlement/laziness etc followed by shameful, usually irrational, often bordering on ridiculous but definitely 'squirmy' self vindication, is a lot more common amongst our male companions than I imagined! 😳It would be easy to just blame the personalities of each individual DB/DP/DH but I have a real suspicion that it actually goes a lot deeper than that based on the issues which several posters have mentioned and cannot be ignored! 😠Sadly 'comrades' we are and have always been 'up against it' one way or another with the 'males of the species' and with the encouragement of the likes of Mr Tate and his merry band of incels and misogynists 'ain't nothing going to change anytime soon' and we Just need to keep calling it out...LOUDLY!! 🙄

It starts young. I saw a group of teenagers at a local attraction. They were clearly on a school trip but not being supervised and were behaving badly ( later heard the attraction staff complaining loudly about them on their walkie talkies and warning other staff about them). They sat down to eat and left a huge mess of rubbish on the ground. Two of the girls in the group, complaining about the mess, started to clean it up and NOT ONE of these arrogant, entitled teenage boys joined in to help. They just laughed at the girls doing it, and sat there watching them do it.

lightwhiteongrey

FOR SOME BIZARRE REASON YOU HAVE COPIED AND PASTED A POST MADE BY MYSELF ON 27/02 AT 16.25pm AND PASSED IT OFF AS YOUR OWN...THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ACCEPTABLE AND HAS BEEN REPORTED TO MUMSNET!!😡

TimeForTeaAndG · 29/02/2024 16:55

Cariadm · 29/02/2024 16:06

lightwhiteongrey

FOR SOME BIZARRE REASON YOU HAVE COPIED AND PASTED A POST MADE BY MYSELF ON 27/02 AT 16.25pm AND PASSED IT OFF AS YOUR OWN...THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ACCEPTABLE AND HAS BEEN REPORTED TO MUMSNET!!😡

@Cariadm the bolded is to indicate that the poster is responding to your text. Just an old way of doing it without the quote button and tagging.

NotAgainWilson · 29/02/2024 17:28

Cariadm · 29/02/2024 16:06

lightwhiteongrey

FOR SOME BIZARRE REASON YOU HAVE COPIED AND PASTED A POST MADE BY MYSELF ON 27/02 AT 16.25pm AND PASSED IT OFF AS YOUR OWN...THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ACCEPTABLE AND HAS BEEN REPORTED TO MUMSNET!!😡

Good grief! Are you new??? 🤣🤣🤣

Cariadm · 29/02/2024 18:08

NotAgainWilson · 29/02/2024 17:28

Good grief! Are you new??? 🤣🤣🤣

No I'm not 'new' and quite frankly what's it got to do with you anyway?!

NotAgainWilson · 29/02/2024 18:23

I cannot imagine someone getting all paranoid and reporting posts at being quoted in the old style. Are you a bit too sensitive to be in social media?

Most people would respond with a “oops sorry!” Not starting a full attack on other posters, and you know, some of us here care when people are particularly nasty so yes, that’s why I replied to your comment.

Have a 🍪! 🙂

EdinaMonsoon · 29/02/2024 18:24

neilyoungismyhero · 25/02/2024 00:31

It's far too late for me to leave sadly but after 40 odd years of marriage he had a tantrum - one of many - and told me he was sick of me serving up the same old shit every night. I pretty much cook from scratch and his meals are varied...
I'm never getting over that..ever..until my dying breath

It’s never too late.
Leave or tell them to.

Imagine how utterly liberating it would be after 40 years of putting up with someone else’s shit.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 29/02/2024 18:36

Cariadm · 29/02/2024 18:08

No I'm not 'new' and quite frankly what's it got to do with you anyway?!

Putting things in bold is a way of quoting. Calm down, no-one is plagiarising your pearls of wisdom.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 29/02/2024 18:38

I also gave him an ultimatum. Therapy to get to the bottom of why he's like that and make him a better, more caring husband. Or divorce. He picked therapy and thankfully several months on things are a lot better.

@Fruitandclottedcream out of interest, did he give any reason for why he'd behaved the way he did?

puzzledout · 29/02/2024 18:49

@Cariadm you've got to be new!?!

puzzledout · 29/02/2024 18:51

puzzledout · 29/02/2024 18:49

@Cariadm you've got to be new!?!

And extremely bad tempered!

AlwaysGinPlease · 29/02/2024 20:15

@Cariadm oh dear 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️