To feel sorry for Shamima Begum?

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I do, I’m afraid. I think she should be able to come home. She was 15! Have any men been stripped of their citizenship that we know about?

Lets get this straight: I have little sympathy for her, mostly because she never attempted to fled the Islamic State, she fought teeth and nails till the last minute and once her group lost the war and got sent to a camp she realised the "mistake". This said... what the UK government has done is completely illegal and goes against human rights:

“Arbitrary deprivation of nationality”, which means deliberately moving to make a citizen stateless, is prohibited under these instruments. Article 15 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is particularly explicit on this point"

At 15, I knew beheadings were horrificly evil.

I'll reserve my thoughts for other causes.

I have zero sympathy for her and couldn’t give a tiny rats ass about her.

Robert Thompson and Jon Venables were 10 when they committed murder. She was 15 when she helped to commit murder. They knew right from wrong and so did she. She wasn’t trafficked. She went willingly because she thought it would be ‘cool’.

No I didn’t. I linked to the clickable index to the relevant Act. And I even told you which section to look at. 🙄

If you don’t understand it just say so and I’ll explain for you.

You know you’re wrong.

An apology would be nice.

It wasn't arbitrary.

I think you should apologise for your dogged lies.

She was and is stateless, made so illegally by the UK.

Oh dear.

It was, it’s in the definition (“which means deliberately moving to make a citizen stateless”)

I’ll take that as an apology 😊

As she has showed no remorse she deserves what she gets

No, it’s not illegal.

And since losing citizenship is a process reviewed by the courts, it’s been closely examined.

You’ve just been given definitive proof that she wasn’t.

But we don’t care about her or anyone like this. They are the very opposite of everything we hold true in this country. You can’t commit despicable crimes in another country and expect the U.K. to welcome you back!!

We have a RIGHT to safety, and to expect our government and security services to keep us safe.

Regardless of heritage if you join a death cult you will not be welcome back here. They can stay in the camps and make their own plans. I will NOT be responsible for terrorists and murderers. I don’t want to pay for you or see you back here cashing in on your crimes. I will never support this. We have a beautiful country, with decent people but honestly it’s beyond my comprehension that anyone would support this terrorist regime by inviting them back here to wreck havoc and murder.

Take it as you wish.

You remain completely wrong though. But you’re in good company: the NYT was wrong as well.

Completely disagree with this. It's nothing to do with her ethnicity/skin colour imo. She joined a terrorist organisation. Different to what you said in your post.
She's committed horrendous crimes and she's dangerous. I believe she's more dangerous without British citizenship however.

She’s not stateless is she - by default she’s Bangladeshi (not Brit) but they won’t make it official. Both govts tussling.

Has she ever expressed regret?

when she was first 'discovered' in syria she wore traditional dress and spoke gleefully and proudly about her part in ISIS. Only when she began her appeals did she become the western teenage victim

How arrogant of you to think you know better than the Bangladeshi Foreign Minister.

What did the court decide today?

Not unlawful right?

NO she is not, she is British, born and bred.

Would you say the same if she was potentially allowed to apply for French or Italian, US nationality. She has NEVER EVER been to Bangladesh, she does not speak the language, knows no-one there.

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You are aware many of those groomed as part of those gangs in Rochdale continued sleeping with the men into their adult years, and even helped them recruit other girls and ply them with drugs.

do you not consider that comparable?

This wasn't the right decision. Citizenship is a basic fundamental human right. It's almost equal to right to life its that important. I really do not understand this decision.

It doesn't make sense for UK security either. If we leave thousands to rot in the Syrian desert it will lead to future security problems.

Even if the judge has further evidence about her dangers- surely it would be better to have her locked up in the prison service here than risk her disappearing?!

I simply do not understand this decision.