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To think alot of people who have money/assets generally are clueless and lack empathy for those who don't.

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LindaHamilton · 23/02/2024 00:05

I was chatting to colleague today about the UK couple who won the 61 million in the lotto. Colleague is much better paid than me and owns a house here in South East... She started ranting about how nobody needs that money and ''you'd get bored blah blah blah''

Other colleague also on a much better salary than me, who was given a big inheritance last year said similar and that she wouldn't want to win the lotto and why would anybody want that money?

On a similar note I'm reading many posts tonight on here and people saying their inheritance they received was no big deal and I've seen threads like this before. Basically people who got inheritances telling people who got none to stop complaining and to be happy. Easy to bloody say when you were given an inheritance....

AIBU to think there is a massive lack of empathy here? And people with money try to act like it's no big deal and think that those who don't have it should just suck it up?

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LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:42

Untilitisnt · 24/02/2024 10:40

There's a difference between having money and being wealthy.
Lots of people on this site would be perceived as being rich, when in fact, they are only relatively rich
True wealth, where you are one of the 3% who has 80% of the country's wealth is where you need to be.
The level of envy disguised as moral indignation by OP is high

It's not envy, nice gaslighting there. I am pointing out those who have considerable wealth/got big help from family are sometimes completely oblivious to others who never got the same benefits.

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Untilitisnt · 24/02/2024 10:43

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:42

It's not envy, nice gaslighting there. I am pointing out those who have considerable wealth/got big help from family are sometimes completely oblivious to others who never got the same benefits.

How is this gaslighting

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:48

Untilitisnt · 24/02/2024 10:43

How is this gaslighting

Because you are trying to say that I am envious for merely pointing out a bad behaviour of others. You are projecting it back to me like it is my flaw. Just read some of the posts on this thread and it totally supports what I am saying in how oblivious and lacking empathy 'those who have' are at times.

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Fionaville · 24/02/2024 10:50

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:39

agreed but it annoyed me that 1 colleague was handed a huge gift from parents and got a house in a prime location in London few could afford, that is on top of a comfortable salary. It really irked me then they said they wouldn't even want to won the lottery.... And I think some people here are missing my point.

It would only annoy me from the point of view, that they aren't thinking of the local causes that would benefit from a wealthy beneficiary. But then I live in a town not a city, so we are a very community minded.
I wouldn't be annoyed that they are pretending that they are that comfortably off, they wouldn't like to be given 60 million. I'd be amused, because nobody would scoff at 60 million.

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:52

It isn't envy, people can have a billion quid and I don't care. It's more the attitude that it's insignificant or that they don't have it better than others. A poster on another thread said she got an inheritance that cleared her mortgage but that people shouldn't be jealous as she still had to work to pay her other bills.....

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TheWildEyeBoyfromafreecloud · 24/02/2024 10:54

With that sort of money I could get a lot of good things done, set up some charity, scholarship and lobby on various issues.

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:56

Fionaville · 24/02/2024 10:50

It would only annoy me from the point of view, that they aren't thinking of the local causes that would benefit from a wealthy beneficiary. But then I live in a town not a city, so we are a very community minded.
I wouldn't be annoyed that they are pretending that they are that comfortably off, they wouldn't like to be given 60 million. I'd be amused, because nobody would scoff at 60 million.

I grew up in a small town, plenty of people there aren't in any way community minded and would do fcuk all for the community if they were handed millions.

I don't think there is any correlation between where you live and whether you are community minded or not.

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Fionaville · 24/02/2024 10:59

Moveoverdarlin · 24/02/2024 10:22

I kind of agree with the first colleague. She’s probably not ultra wealthy but equally doesn’t live on the breadline. And 61 million is almost too much. A million or two would be bloody wonderful. If I won £61 million I would worry that it could ruin us.

Do you not know of any local causes, crying out for donations? That's what I can never get my head around, when people say it's too much money.
I could spend every penny of that in my town building new facilities for local causes and just generally making life better for lots of people.

ssd · 24/02/2024 11:02

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:34

Then your point is moot if you were not struggling. My point was that poverty kills happiness, you and the other poster are disputing that and you are basing that just because you grew up in a council estate.

Its not moot. Where did i say we weren't struggling??

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:04

ssd · 24/02/2024 11:02

Its not moot. Where did i say we weren't struggling??

you said you grew up in a council estate. So where you struggling? Were you or your parents ever starving?

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thecatsthecats · 24/02/2024 11:05

It might be unpopular, but the same happens in reverse.

People without money can dehumanise and dismiss the problems of people who have more than them - even just fractionally more than them.

I was super stressed at work, constant heavy migraines that lasted weeks. Exhausted and miserable all the time. Made a glib comment.in a group chat that I should have gone for the lower paying job that involved playing with guide dog puppies to socialise them. I got bollocked because it was "insensitive" to those earning less. But they were living happy lives.

Seen it time and again - you can't have problems if you're even slightly better off.

ssd · 24/02/2024 11:08

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:04

you said you grew up in a council estate. So where you struggling? Were you or your parents ever starving?

Yes. Though why you'd need to know that is beyond me. You said to me earlier that some people grow up on a council estate and were still comfortable. I said we weren't. Do you need the ins and outs of why we weren't comfortable??

Fionaville · 24/02/2024 11:09

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:56

I grew up in a small town, plenty of people there aren't in any way community minded and would do fcuk all for the community if they were handed millions.

I don't think there is any correlation between where you live and whether you are community minded or not.

In my town we're very community minded. If anybody asks for help they get it. Even though it's a poor town, local charities collecting here always raise much more than they do in the wealthier town nearby. 10 times more sometimes.
I find it sad that people are that disconnected from local causes, that it doesn't even occur to them that they could use that much money for good, if they don't want it themselves.

Untilitisnt · 24/02/2024 11:12

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 10:48

Because you are trying to say that I am envious for merely pointing out a bad behaviour of others. You are projecting it back to me like it is my flaw. Just read some of the posts on this thread and it totally supports what I am saying in how oblivious and lacking empathy 'those who have' are at times.

Ok.
I am sorry that I gaslit you. I thought we were having a good old row, but then again, I am of an age...
Will remove myself from this thread

meowie · 24/02/2024 11:14

Envy? I thought the OP's point was that people who are comfortably off and criticise lottery winners, perpetuate myths like "if only people would get off their arses, stop making poor choices and work hard they, too, could be rich" or say virtue-signalling things about how they would help the community etc with a lottery win, are incredibly hypocritical.

Nothing stopping the 'haves' on this thread with multiple properties etc selling one from their portfolio to help their community.

Or just stop criticising those who have not been able to climb up the greasy pole for 'making poor choices'.

ssd · 24/02/2024 11:16

Of course, my mum kept how desperate things were from us. She told me years later how we were out a walk and she found a half crown in the street and was so grateful cos then we'd have dinner that night. I never ever realised things were that bad but she probably fed us before herself. I just never noticed.

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:20

Untilitisnt · 24/02/2024 11:12

Ok.
I am sorry that I gaslit you. I thought we were having a good old row, but then again, I am of an age...
Will remove myself from this thread

You don't have to remove yourself but if you are thinking I am envious I am just pointing out to you otherwise. I am happy for people, I generally am. What I am not happy about is their attitudes at times. That's the whole point of the thread.

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LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:22

Fionaville · 24/02/2024 11:09

In my town we're very community minded. If anybody asks for help they get it. Even though it's a poor town, local charities collecting here always raise much more than they do in the wealthier town nearby. 10 times more sometimes.
I find it sad that people are that disconnected from local causes, that it doesn't even occur to them that they could use that much money for good, if they don't want it themselves.

Please tell us the town then, I am sure others living there might dispute this utopia you talk about.

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LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:24

ssd · 24/02/2024 11:08

Yes. Though why you'd need to know that is beyond me. You said to me earlier that some people grow up on a council estate and were still comfortable. I said we weren't. Do you need the ins and outs of why we weren't comfortable??

you never said that originally though, you just said you grew up in a council estate. OK and so you are telling me that you were all starving but and totally deprived living in cold but because everybody around you was the same you were happy???

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ssd · 24/02/2024 11:26

Oh @LindaHamilton give it a rest

Fionaville · 24/02/2024 11:26

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:22

Please tell us the town then, I am sure others living there might dispute this utopia you talk about.

What are you being so defensive and rude for? I have actually been commenting in support of your OP. That these wealthy people are ridiculous for saying they wouldn't want to win the lottery, because there is so much good to do with it.
Maybe it's just your bad attitude, so they are wanting to wind you up! They've succeeded.

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:27

thecatsthecats · 24/02/2024 11:05

It might be unpopular, but the same happens in reverse.

People without money can dehumanise and dismiss the problems of people who have more than them - even just fractionally more than them.

I was super stressed at work, constant heavy migraines that lasted weeks. Exhausted and miserable all the time. Made a glib comment.in a group chat that I should have gone for the lower paying job that involved playing with guide dog puppies to socialise them. I got bollocked because it was "insensitive" to those earning less. But they were living happy lives.

Seen it time and again - you can't have problems if you're even slightly better off.

It's not that you made a quip about their money that would have irked people, it's more that you made their jobs sound insignificant and easy and in doing so diminishing their worth/statuses that probably offended people.

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LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:29

Fionaville · 24/02/2024 11:26

What are you being so defensive and rude for? I have actually been commenting in support of your OP. That these wealthy people are ridiculous for saying they wouldn't want to win the lottery, because there is so much good to do with it.
Maybe it's just your bad attitude, so they are wanting to wind you up! They've succeeded.

I am not being rude, I am just disputing your idea that there is some big universal community spirit in towns that isn't in cities. I grew up in a town so I have not seen it.

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LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:31

ssd · 24/02/2024 11:26

Oh @LindaHamilton give it a rest

Well then stop saying absurd things. You are saying people living in poverty are happy because it's all they know and so they make peace with it.... do you actually believe that truthfully?

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thecatsthecats · 24/02/2024 11:36

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 11:27

It's not that you made a quip about their money that would have irked people, it's more that you made their jobs sound insignificant and easy and in doing so diminishing their worth/statuses that probably offended people.

I didn't say a damn word about their jobs. I said that there was a specific job that I should have gone for that we all joked about when I found it because it seemed like one of those dream jobs.

Bear in mind the salary range in the group was within 10k, so none of us wildly richer.

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