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AIBU?

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To think alot of people who have money/assets generally are clueless and lack empathy for those who don't.

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LindaHamilton · 23/02/2024 00:05

I was chatting to colleague today about the UK couple who won the 61 million in the lotto. Colleague is much better paid than me and owns a house here in South East... She started ranting about how nobody needs that money and ''you'd get bored blah blah blah''

Other colleague also on a much better salary than me, who was given a big inheritance last year said similar and that she wouldn't want to win the lotto and why would anybody want that money?

On a similar note I'm reading many posts tonight on here and people saying their inheritance they received was no big deal and I've seen threads like this before. Basically people who got inheritances telling people who got none to stop complaining and to be happy. Easy to bloody say when you were given an inheritance....

AIBU to think there is a massive lack of empathy here? And people with money try to act like it's no big deal and think that those who don't have it should just suck it up?

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coldcallerbaiter · 23/02/2024 17:43

What about the privilege of being bright or good looking. Doors open up effortlessly for those people.

A stable family. I grew up with good finances but parents fought like cat and dog over money and other issues.

The struggle of bad health vs good.

Seen the difference these things can make in life from a young age.

61m is a silly amount for 1 winner.
It should be divided up in to 10m or less per win and more winners.

meowie · 23/02/2024 17:56

61m is a silly amount for 1 winner.
It should be divided up in to 10m or less per win and more winners.

Would you apply that same principle for anyone worth 61m? Or is it just because most of the lottery winners are from the lower classes and not 'deserving' in your opinion?

Do you think the Royal Family deserve their wealth?
Rishi Sunak?
Footballers?
Elon Musk?
Duke of Westminster?

Crikeyalmighty · 23/02/2024 17:59

@Whereshallwelivee as I said on an earlier post- may not but happiness but it sure buys 'choice'

MCOut · 23/02/2024 18:21

They are mad, I would happily take £61 million. It would buy security. A lot of people who have always been comfortable won’t understand that, but it depends on the person. Awareness can be developed and empathy is a choice. Lots of people acknowledge that they are fortunate, are grateful and don’t dismiss the experiences of those with less.

But, comparison is the theft of joy. Dwelling on those who get massive deposits etc is just going to cause resentment, which will ultimately hurt more.

flatmop · 23/02/2024 19:52

I'd happily take 61m. I have a huge extended family and would struggle to keep enough for a rich life while giving them a life changing amount. Even if you didn't have a huge family, wouldn't you find ways to divide the money between friends and colleagues? Anyone who claims a lot of money is too much is an idiot in my view. They could even give a large amount to a charity of their choice if their social circle was so small.

coldcallerbaiter · 23/02/2024 19:56

meowie · 23/02/2024 17:56

61m is a silly amount for 1 winner.
It should be divided up in to 10m or less per win and more winners.

Would you apply that same principle for anyone worth 61m? Or is it just because most of the lottery winners are from the lower classes and not 'deserving' in your opinion?

Do you think the Royal Family deserve their wealth?
Rishi Sunak?
Footballers?
Elon Musk?
Duke of Westminster?

No, it is because several winners will receive life changing amounts and there also would be more chance of winning. Actually 61x1m
would be even better.

Dacadactyl · 23/02/2024 20:12

We aren't rich but I wouldn't want to win more than a couple of million either.

We have never received an inheritance either and have worked hard for what we have.

YABU.

Notamum12345577 · 23/02/2024 22:36

@newnamethanks At least he was honest 😁

LindaHamilton · 23/02/2024 23:16

coldcallerbaiter · 23/02/2024 19:56

No, it is because several winners will receive life changing amounts and there also would be more chance of winning. Actually 61x1m
would be even better.

you cannot make so many millionaires, inflation would go through the roof

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LindaHamilton · 23/02/2024 23:18

flatmop · 23/02/2024 19:52

I'd happily take 61m. I have a huge extended family and would struggle to keep enough for a rich life while giving them a life changing amount. Even if you didn't have a huge family, wouldn't you find ways to divide the money between friends and colleagues? Anyone who claims a lot of money is too much is an idiot in my view. They could even give a large amount to a charity of their choice if their social circle was so small.

on mumsnet everybody is a martyr and would give most of it to charity blah blah blah... reality would be a very different thing. Also the people who say they wouldn't want it wouldn't refuse it if they were offered.

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Dacadactyl · 23/02/2024 23:25

LindaHamilton · 23/02/2024 23:18

on mumsnet everybody is a martyr and would give most of it to charity blah blah blah... reality would be a very different thing. Also the people who say they wouldn't want it wouldn't refuse it if they were offered.

Honestly tho, what would you do with 61 million tho?

I would struggle to spend it myself. I could set up generations of my family with just a few million.

I genuinely wouldn't want that amount for "just me and mine".

BIossomtoes · 23/02/2024 23:25

How is giving away more money than you could ever spend being a martyr? The interest on £61 million is over £3 million a year - you couldn’t even spend that.

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:19

Because on mumsnet there is a rush to say users would give it (or 90 percent) all away, keep their job and live normally in our 2 bed flat and live like a nun.... There is a rush to say nobody needs luxuries or money and as long as they can pay the food bill they are fine...

Let's face it, if any of us were given that we'd live the high life just like all the other winners and rich people out there. And none of us would be giving 90 per cent of it to charity, bloody easy to say that when you don't have it. And it gets tiresome here when people get preachy over such things. The people here saying that wouldn't give up their 5 bed house they currently have to live in a poky cheap flat nor would they trade in their 2022 AUDI to drive a clapped out banger.

The same goes for inheritances, people saying they don't care if their parents don't leave them anything. Yea easy to say when you already got it or when you know your parents are leaving it to you but those people who get preachy would not like if their parents left it to the postman or the local dogs home.

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LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:23

Dacadactyl · 23/02/2024 20:12

We aren't rich but I wouldn't want to win more than a couple of million either.

We have never received an inheritance either and have worked hard for what we have.

YABU.

Often I hear people saying that and it turns out they are earning 200k a year...

I bet if you laid out your finances here you'd be much better off than many and you wouldn't be so quick to play the ''we wouldn't want that type of money'' chestnut if you actually won it.

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Untilitisnt · 24/02/2024 08:27

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:23

Often I hear people saying that and it turns out they are earning 200k a year...

I bet if you laid out your finances here you'd be much better off than many and you wouldn't be so quick to play the ''we wouldn't want that type of money'' chestnut if you actually won it.

You spound very bitter and cynical. That's sad.
But don't project this on all the MNs here who have a different opinion, or whose world-view is not as jaded as yours

Fizbosshoes · 24/02/2024 08:30

Where would you even start spending £61m though? I literally can't compute how you could?

Paying off a mortgage? For the average house that might be a few hundred thousand.

Buying a new house - unless you're buying a ridiculous house in London, even a really expensive house elsewhere likely to be <£2m

i guess you could maybe 100k for maintenance/improvements per year....that might be 4M over 40 years.

Holidays? Even if you spent 50k a year on holidays...that's over 1000 years of holidays!

New cars? They're not going to make much of a dent either

Start a new business or charity?

Agree with @BIossomtoes and @Dacadactyl it's surely virtually impossible to spend that much

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:35

Untilitisnt · 24/02/2024 08:27

You spound very bitter and cynical. That's sad.
But don't project this on all the MNs here who have a different opinion, or whose world-view is not as jaded as yours

And here we go with the 'you sound bitter' gaslighting. No love, I am just pointing out the reality here.

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ssd · 24/02/2024 08:43

Money's like everything else, when youve got plenty of it you can be flippant and dismiss people easily as you know money worries just dont affect you. Id rather read someone is grateful for their money they inherited or pleased they earn so much rather than telling others not to be jealous or that they are bitter. Its a case of check your privilege.

BIossomtoes · 24/02/2024 08:46

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:35

And here we go with the 'you sound bitter' gaslighting. No love, I am just pointing out the reality here.

But you’re not. Realistically £61 million is the kind of money no individual could possibly spend, even after they’ve looked after their family. You can only live in one house, there’s a limit to the number of luxurious holidays you can take. Even with the most conservative of investments the interest alone would be more than you could spend before you even touched the capital.

Untilitisnt · 24/02/2024 08:48

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:35

And here we go with the 'you sound bitter' gaslighting. No love, I am just pointing out the reality here.

Please don't patronise, I am not 'Love'
And pointing out how you are coming across isn't gaslighting

WandaWonder · 24/02/2024 08:48

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:35

And here we go with the 'you sound bitter' gaslighting. No love, I am just pointing out the reality here.

Does anything happen in the world without gaslighting?

Fizbosshoes · 24/02/2024 08:49

I'd say most people - if they won the lottery - would want a better version of their own life

Maybe pay off mortgage, bigger house, newer car, more holidays, treat friends and family, private healthcare etc etc....
In which case probably 5m (or less) would do it...? What arebyou going to do with the rest?

I mean I guess you could buy a yacht, a private jet, an island...? But these are a different reality, you'd be mixing with totally different groups of people you'd never met before. That's not something I'd aspire to...maybe other people do?

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:51

BIossomtoes · 24/02/2024 08:46

But you’re not. Realistically £61 million is the kind of money no individual could possibly spend, even after they’ve looked after their family. You can only live in one house, there’s a limit to the number of luxurious holidays you can take. Even with the most conservative of investments the interest alone would be more than you could spend before you even touched the capital.

ofcourse but yet be honest if it was offered to any of us here we wouldn't turn it down, be honest. You'd have your mansion and high life just like all the others. Don't even pretend otherwise.

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meowie · 24/02/2024 08:55

I'm just a bit Hmm at the criticism towards lottery winners. Would you say the same about other rich people, many with far more than £60m? Do they deserve the wealth they have or would you expect them to redistribute it? Bankers? Property developers? Actors? Sports stars? Those with inherited wealth?

Why the focus on lottery winners? I think this shows up the class bias among most people here.

LindaHamilton · 24/02/2024 08:58

Fizbosshoes · 24/02/2024 08:49

I'd say most people - if they won the lottery - would want a better version of their own life

Maybe pay off mortgage, bigger house, newer car, more holidays, treat friends and family, private healthcare etc etc....
In which case probably 5m (or less) would do it...? What arebyou going to do with the rest?

I mean I guess you could buy a yacht, a private jet, an island...? But these are a different reality, you'd be mixing with totally different groups of people you'd never met before. That's not something I'd aspire to...maybe other people do?

Lottery winnings (even euromillions) likely would not fund private jets or private islands. With me, I'd buy multiple properties and invest some in shares and properties. I'd help people close to me and I'd bloody well enjoy it. I work 2 jobs to make ends meet in unskilled labour and earn around 520 quid a week in London.

I'm not dying of poverty but I'm living in a house share at nearly 40, drive an 05 banger which always breaks down and I don't have any savings. If I won I'd bloody enjoy it and I wouldn't give most of it to charity nor would I prefer a million. I'd prefer the 61 million.

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