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Do I tell DS's sons dad that his mum is moving schools in 2 days?

271 replies

Awaanbileyirheid · 21/02/2024 16:10

Ds came home from school today crying as his best friend is moving schools on Monday. (They're 11).
Thing is, his dad has not consented to move and has joint custody.
BF lives 50/50 with mum in one town and dad in our town. They're from here, been at school here from nursery.
BF mum moved 20 mins away last year with new boyfriend. Just after his dad was awarded joint custody. Dad hasnt got a car so they've shared kid since but remained at school.
I get on with both parents but his dad makes more effort with kid as he sees at that age, kids want to do stuff with friends.
Mum thinks he's autistic (he's not diagnosed) and rarely allows play dates.
Today DS and BF crying as mum moving schools to her new town. All secret tho, he mustnt tell his dad.
Do I tell the dad? The poor kid is in pieces as is my DS.
Or is it none of my business? Keep gob shut and comfort kids?

OP posts:
beenwhereyouare · 22/02/2024 02:07

Trulyme · 21/02/2024 19:24

Well he could try but I can’t see a court siding with him.

It makes sense that a child attends their local primary and secondary school.

Of course he should be informed but I don’t think that’s for OP to do.

The current primary school will be aware of the transfer and if dad has 50/50 access then he’ll also have all of the communication that mum does and so chances are he’s already aware.

But his dad has him half the time, so he's currently at his local school. His mother changing his school effectively means that he can't live with his dad while school is in session. (Dad doesn't drive and there is no public transportation to/where the mother lives.)

I could totally see a court siding with him.

WandaWonder · 22/02/2024 02:32

So this all seems like a lot of assumptions going on from information from a young a child, maybe if people concentrated on their own lives more there would be less situations turned into a soap opera because people who are not the couple know best?

WandaWonder · 22/02/2024 02:35

WandaWonder · 22/02/2024 02:32

So this all seems like a lot of assumptions going on from information from a young a child, maybe if people concentrated on their own lives more there would be less situations turned into a soap opera because people who are not the couple know best?

I will add if anyone has any genuine issues and not 'I am coming up with things because I am bored' around the care a child is getting then contact the appropriate authorities

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/02/2024 02:44

WandaWonder · 22/02/2024 02:35

I will add if anyone has any genuine issues and not 'I am coming up with things because I am bored' around the care a child is getting then contact the appropriate authorities

Or just telling the dad the one thing he doesnt know and letting him, as the actual parent, decide what is the best course of action?

ETA....they are not a couple, thats kind of the problem.

Emma8888 · 22/02/2024 02:53

I would absolutely say something along the lines of 'DS is really upset that little Johnny is moving schools next week. Can we plan some meet ups for the next few weekends to help?'

It sounds like sneaky shite from the mother in an attempt to prevent 50-50 custody with Dad, effectively stopping him seeing his son.

Forgottenmypasswordagain · 22/02/2024 04:05

I changed my mind after reading more posts. Think Emma8888's suggestion is the way to go but it's difficult to say without knowing any backstory as to why the mum is not telling the dad.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 22/02/2024 04:09

What do you hope to achieve? He'll know soon enough.

Josette77 · 22/02/2024 04:56

I love that people have brought up her doing this due to abuse, but no one is concerned the mother or her new boyfriend are abusive.

In fact I would argue that moving a possibly autistic child and asking him to lie to his father is absolutely abusive.

Tell the dad. Do the daft approach.

The child is already being harmed by the lying and the child is the only one that really matters.

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/02/2024 05:49

I would definitely tell the dad and speak to the school today as a safeguarding issue.

Nazzywish · 22/02/2024 06:11

He has 50 50 custody it wouldn't be this is there was documented abuse from dad going on so it can't be dv.

I'd say her asking her child to keep such a bug secret from someone he's 50% of time with is abuse,the mental pressure that poor kid must be going through feeling torn is unreal. What else us he being asked to lie about for her.

Def play the dumb card and raise with dad in passing comments.

puzzledout · 22/02/2024 06:18

OhmygodDont · 21/02/2024 16:41

The kids just moving to a more local to his house school rather than moving house again? If so I don’t get what the big deal is. Unless the new school is going to be dire and this one’s amazing I fail to see the huge issue.

Unless dad wants to go to court he isn’t going to be able to stop him moving schools either.

Did you read the OP or just decide based on what you think is the situation?

Let's hope dad dies go back to court again and get full custody.

puzzledout · 22/02/2024 06:20

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/02/2024 01:33

I am genuinely horrified by most of the comments on here!

"Well he will find out on Monday and he can deal with it then"

Lets put it in a different context.

I went to pick up DS from school and he wasnt there, eventually found out that his dad has moved him, without my consent, to a school near where him and his new partner live. We have a court order to prevent this but until I go back to court, as I dont drive and ex wont bring him to me, I can't see him during the week. This means that my ex has now got virtual full custody of our child! What the hell do I do?!

Exactly! The responses would be very different then!

puzzledout · 22/02/2024 06:37

Emma8888 · 22/02/2024 02:53

I would absolutely say something along the lines of 'DS is really upset that little Johnny is moving schools next week. Can we plan some meet ups for the next few weekends to help?'

It sounds like sneaky shite from the mother in an attempt to prevent 50-50 custody with Dad, effectively stopping him seeing his son.

This

piscofrisco · 22/02/2024 07:33

Agree with @PyongyangKipperbang. And anyone who thinks 'let it happen and court will swiftly sort it out' clearly has never been through family court. There is currently a 12 week wait for emergency hearings where we live. Would you all be happy not to see your child for three months, with no guarantee of the outcome going your way at the end of it? Of course not. But it always seems on here that what would be unthinkable for Mums is fine for Dads.

MzHz · 22/02/2024 07:36

How many times have we read appalling news stories about ‘mum and new stepdad being strict’ about kids who are longer with us and people could have done something about it?

this has alarm bells ringing loudly

SoupDragon · 22/02/2024 07:58

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 22/02/2024 04:09

What do you hope to achieve? He'll know soon enough.

Said no one on a thread with the sexes reversed, ever.

kkloo · 22/02/2024 10:11

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/02/2024 01:26

If it was your son and your ex did this, would you really say "Oh @Beepboopbeepboopbeep knew but didnt tell me as a couple of days wouldnt make any difference!" Or "FFS!!!!!! My sons best friends mum knew and didnt tell me, I could have stopped this happening!"

Have a think about that.

I rarely get involved in the "oh if this was a man/woman asking, the answers would be different" spats on here. But in this case, I really do think that it would be different.

If a mum was about to have her childs schooling changed against her will by the father which meant that she could not see her child so much, do school runs etc and that the child had been told to lie, this place would be up in arms!!

No.
I'm not saying not to tell him. I just don't see how he can stop it from happening if as you said there won't be any consequences for her breaking the court order.
You said an explosion now is better than one 2 weeks down the line...you don't know that....she is obviously going to expect an explosion from him too and that hasn't stopped her making the plan.

You've decided that the child will suffer less if the dad finds out now as opposed to in 2 days time, but many of us just don't think that.

For all we know the dad could lose it completely, refuse to return the child if he has him over the weekend and it could be him who suffers consequences from the court.

kkloo · 22/02/2024 10:42

The OP said the dad got solicitors involved last year and as far as she knows the child is supposed to stay in primary AND secondary in their town.
That seems awfully restrictive to decide on the secondary school in advance? Would a court really do that?

I could understand it if one parent had moved hours away, but for the sake of 20 minutes? Would a childs school options really be restricted so much?

The dad doesn't drive, as others have said, that's possibly due to a medical issue, but what if he just never learned? Would it have been possible that the childs move was blocked for a year to give the dad time to learn to drive?

SoupDragon · 22/02/2024 11:00

kkloo · 22/02/2024 10:11

No.
I'm not saying not to tell him. I just don't see how he can stop it from happening if as you said there won't be any consequences for her breaking the court order.
You said an explosion now is better than one 2 weeks down the line...you don't know that....she is obviously going to expect an explosion from him too and that hasn't stopped her making the plan.

You've decided that the child will suffer less if the dad finds out now as opposed to in 2 days time, but many of us just don't think that.

For all we know the dad could lose it completely, refuse to return the child if he has him over the weekend and it could be him who suffers consequences from the court.

You think it's better he turns up to do the school run to find his DS isn't there?

DepartureLounge · 22/02/2024 11:25

Why are so many people advising the OP to pretend to be "daft"? Once she's made a decision about how to handle this, can't she take ownership of her actions like a grown-up? This is why women continue to get stuck in infantilising stereotypes. No one would be advising a man in this situation to "act like a silly little boy".

Ulysees · 22/02/2024 11:29

SoupDragon · 22/02/2024 07:58

Said no one on a thread with the sexes reversed, ever.

Exactly

kkloo · 22/02/2024 11:29

SoupDragon · 22/02/2024 11:00

You think it's better he turns up to do the school run to find his DS isn't there?

Well I don't know how the mother was intending on handling the situation do I?
But if I was to guess I would assume she would send him a message on whatever day he was due to collect the child from school rather than let him go and wait?

Ulysees · 22/02/2024 11:30

@Awaanbileyirheid have you said anything yet?

Toastcrumbsinsofa · 22/02/2024 11:33

I would tell the father in a ‘DS is sorry to hear his friend is moving and can we keep in touch’ kind of way.

If you tell Dad now he can to stop the change of school and keep 50-50 contact with his child, which he won’t be able to do afterwards. It’s clear that the child would prefer to stay at his current school and his wishes are being ignored which must be distressing.

If his mother has good reasons for the change she can discuss it in court with the child’s father.. She’s an absolute cow to make the child keep it a secret from his Dad.

Allthingsdecember · 22/02/2024 11:33

Awaanbileyirheid · 21/02/2024 16:40

I'm thinking the daft wee lassie approach!
I try not to take sides or get involved. Dad is nice, mum is nice. Kid is nice.
I have more contact with Dad as he is more involved. Mum and new boyfriend are very strict.
This happened last year when BF was told by mum again to keep it secret, that he was going to a different high school from all his friends. Dad's solicitor got involved and as far as I'm aware they're supposed to stay in both primary and secondary school in our town.
Someone mentioned it's only 20 mins away. Yes but it's a different region and rural. There's no public transport to their wee town.

I think I’d do this too. They have joint custody, he should have the opportunity to fight this decision, especially if it will impact how he can parent his child.