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Do I tell DS's sons dad that his mum is moving schools in 2 days?

271 replies

Awaanbileyirheid · 21/02/2024 16:10

Ds came home from school today crying as his best friend is moving schools on Monday. (They're 11).
Thing is, his dad has not consented to move and has joint custody.
BF lives 50/50 with mum in one town and dad in our town. They're from here, been at school here from nursery.
BF mum moved 20 mins away last year with new boyfriend. Just after his dad was awarded joint custody. Dad hasnt got a car so they've shared kid since but remained at school.
I get on with both parents but his dad makes more effort with kid as he sees at that age, kids want to do stuff with friends.
Mum thinks he's autistic (he's not diagnosed) and rarely allows play dates.
Today DS and BF crying as mum moving schools to her new town. All secret tho, he mustnt tell his dad.
Do I tell the dad? The poor kid is in pieces as is my DS.
Or is it none of my business? Keep gob shut and comfort kids?

OP posts:
RedWalls · 21/02/2024 19:16

I would 100% tell the dad and ask him not to say which school friend told you. Really not on to ask a child to lie to their parent, that is really damaging.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 21/02/2024 19:17

OhmygodDont · 21/02/2024 16:41

The kids just moving to a more local to his house school rather than moving house again? If so I don’t get what the big deal is. Unless the new school is going to be dire and this one’s amazing I fail to see the huge issue.

Unless dad wants to go to court he isn’t going to be able to stop him moving schools either.

Sounds like it is only more local to one of the houses he lives in though. It’s a pretty big issue if he lives 50% of the time with the dad and the dad is unaware and has no way of getting him to the school.

turkeymuffin · 21/02/2024 19:18

Teaandsympathy · 21/02/2024 16:21

Going against the grain but i think I’d check with the dad… play the daft lassie… “just heard ds friend is moving schools next week. ds is so sad, hope we can keep in touch”

Yes I'd do this. Give him chance to object via a prohibited steps order or emergency court hearing.

My ex best friend did something similar to her kids. It's ruined their mental health and she still can't see it.

WhereYouLeftIt · 21/02/2024 19:18

"Thing is, his dad has not consented to move and has joint custody."

the father has joint custody, and the mother is trying to circumvent that. True bloody right I'd be talking to the father about this!

Trulyme · 21/02/2024 19:19

harriethoyle · 21/02/2024 19:05

I'd love to know how many of the posters saying MYOB would say that if they were in this Dad's position. @Teaandsympathy has it absolutely nailed. Please do say something.

Of course I’d want to know but there’s nothing the dad can do about it and OP is getting herself involved in business that’s not hers (and something that she doesn’t know is even a fact).

They already live 20mins away and it may have always been the plan to send him to the local secondary school.

It makes sense moving him in year 6, so he can make friends before starting.

As the mum is the one that moved, then she needs to be the one who brings the child to see the dad but that’s not for OP to get involved with either.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 21/02/2024 19:19

If the roles were reversed people would NOT be advising everything but MYOB.

id personally advise the Dad the mother is clearly not thinking about her son and the father’s relationship.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 21/02/2024 19:19

Trulyme · 21/02/2024 18:46

I personally would stay out of it.

The son of your son could have got it wrong and you’d end up causing massive issues for nothing.

He cannot stop them moving, even if it’s going to cause transport issues.

So you will basically be fanning the flames and getting yourself (and son) involved, for no reason.

He will find out soon enough and then you can be there to support him and perhaps help with transport.

Why can’t he stop him. If both parents have parental responsibility then one can’t make a decision to move schools without even informing the other

SleepingStandingUp · 21/02/2024 19:21

Teaandsympathy · 21/02/2024 16:21

Going against the grain but i think I’d check with the dad… play the daft lassie… “just heard ds friend is moving schools next week. ds is so sad, hope we can keep in touch”

This. If she shouldn't do anything cos kids are unreliable then the telling Dad might not be a secret anyway...

Trulyme · 21/02/2024 19:24

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 21/02/2024 19:19

Why can’t he stop him. If both parents have parental responsibility then one can’t make a decision to move schools without even informing the other

Well he could try but I can’t see a court siding with him.

It makes sense that a child attends their local primary and secondary school.

Of course he should be informed but I don’t think that’s for OP to do.

The current primary school will be aware of the transfer and if dad has 50/50 access then he’ll also have all of the communication that mum does and so chances are he’s already aware.

ApiarySentinel · 21/02/2024 19:26

Id say yes @Awaanbileyirheid

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 21/02/2024 19:26

Trulyme · 21/02/2024 19:24

Well he could try but I can’t see a court siding with him.

It makes sense that a child attends their local primary and secondary school.

Of course he should be informed but I don’t think that’s for OP to do.

The current primary school will be aware of the transfer and if dad has 50/50 access then he’ll also have all of the communication that mum does and so chances are he’s already aware.

But it sound like the current school is the local school for the dads house where the child lives 50% of the time.

ApiarySentinel · 21/02/2024 19:27

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 21/02/2024 19:19

If the roles were reversed people would NOT be advising everything but MYOB.

id personally advise the Dad the mother is clearly not thinking about her son and the father’s relationship.

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neverenoughplants · 21/02/2024 19:27

Honestly, I would let the Dad know. The child's Mum clearly knows that she's doing something she's not supposed to do, which is why she's telling her son to keep it a secret. (Which also isn't fair to him either, a child shouldn't be put in that situation)

caringcarer · 21/02/2024 19:27

ladykale · 21/02/2024 16:42

I would do this! Make it seem like an innocent mistake

Me too. It's too totally unfair for the kids Mum to expect him to keep this huge secret from his Dad.

MrsCarson · 21/02/2024 19:30

Poor kid, Mum is moving kid to a school where Dad who has 50/50 won't be able to get him to school due to not driving and no public transport. She doesn't sound as nice as you think she is OP. This will end the 50/50 for him if she gets away with it.

RB68 · 21/02/2024 19:33

If you dont want to speak to parents try the school - drop in Father hasn't consented and has FULL PR and 50/50 care.

Longma · 21/02/2024 19:37

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Sneez · 21/02/2024 19:37

This is awful, clearly the Dad is very much involved and imagine it was the other way round - there would be uproar! I would mention it to the Dad

Hairyfairy01 · 21/02/2024 19:39

It would be interesting to see if you had the same replies if it was the dad moving himself and the child away from the mum in a 50:50 arrangement.

I would say something to the dad, but more along the lines of 'ds just told me, he's so upset and will miss him a lot, would be lovely if we could keep the boys in touch' or something similar.

Lollypop701 · 21/02/2024 19:42

Yep, and mum isn’t nice at least to her ex

Waffleson · 21/02/2024 19:43

Yes, tell him via the excellent "daft lassie" method suggested up thread.

WandaWonder · 21/02/2024 19:43

Awaanbileyirheid · 21/02/2024 16:40

I'm thinking the daft wee lassie approach!
I try not to take sides or get involved. Dad is nice, mum is nice. Kid is nice.
I have more contact with Dad as he is more involved. Mum and new boyfriend are very strict.
This happened last year when BF was told by mum again to keep it secret, that he was going to a different high school from all his friends. Dad's solicitor got involved and as far as I'm aware they're supposed to stay in both primary and secondary school in our town.
Someone mentioned it's only 20 mins away. Yes but it's a different region and rural. There's no public transport to their wee town.

It's nothing to do with you

Fallstar · 21/02/2024 19:45

As others have said upthread, I think I'd flag it with the school, rather than talk to either parent, in case there's a safeguarding issue on one side or the other.

redastherose · 21/02/2024 19:50

If they has be 50/50 custody and she's moving him without his fathers consent then she's the one in the wrong. The status quote should be maintained unless they both agree to but he change or a court orders it. Tell the Dad. He has time to stop it happening then. He can get an emergency order to prevent her enrolling him in another school without his permission.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 21/02/2024 19:54

WandaWonder · 21/02/2024 19:43

It's nothing to do with you

I don’t think that’s fully true. The living arrangements and schooling decisions about the boy are nothing to do with her but it does impact on the wellbeing of her own son. OP needs to manage this and knowing the facts of whether or not the boy is moving schools will help her to do so. I don’t think it’s beyond her business to reach out to confirm if he’s moving/ arrange a goodbye play date: discuss keeping in touch etc.

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