What does your network think about trans people?

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Immediate family think it's all a bit silly, trans people should be treated well but you cannot change sex. Women's spaces should be protected etc.

But interestingly all of my university friends think trans women are women (did go to a London uni with well to do sorts).

I'm 31 btw.

non issue. Anyone can dress as they want and be called what they want. No one cares. As long as men keep out of women's sports and women's places, it doesn't affect anyone else, does it. Two transwomen among my friends - one in their 20s one in their 50s

My dad is 75, and he was so curious when a Trans person served him in a shop today. Kept asking me if I’d seen him / her. I told him about they / them. All news to him! He was just amazed that a man would be wearing make-up & have long hair.

really? Did he sleep through the 60s? Did he not meet any of the gender benders in the 80s?

As long as people are essentially good, and not hurting anyone, then we're down with it.
This applies to any societal group though, and not just trans.

Nobody I know in real life has a problem with it in the slightest.

Trans I'm fine with.

🎵Man, I feel like a woman🎵

No issues there... I can call you 'she' if that makes you happy, for all I know you funky chromosomes and do biologically shift one way. No biggie at all.

I draw the line at the fluid, cat, totems, and all the other 'on a whim, flight of fancy' stuff.

I have a mixed bag of friends, some have adopted it (teachers etc, because they now have to...), others are right at the opposite end of the scale. I'm not too fussed.

Exactly what I was thinking. And the glam rock era of the 70's. Pretty hard to have missed.

Most of my social circle is in agreement that it is largely dangerous nonsense. Thankfully. Wear a dress if you want, but you are not a woman.

My social circle don't discuss it. I want safe places retained for biological women also single sex sports. I.do not want to be told there are more than two sexes. I don't care if biological males want to dress as women.

My friends and family are all pretty aligned that you can’t change sex, gender is pretend and performative and it’s all a bit self indulgent.

My teens and their friends feel sorry for the kids at their school that are changing their identity every 5 mins and say it is more about attention seeking. We all agree that men need to stay out of women’s sports and changing facilities.

We are very much a “live and live” country. Most people aren’t profoundly upset. People can wear what they like, and use whatever pronoun they want.

You can’t change biological sex
You can have gender mean whatever it wants to you

Some places and services, should prioritise biological sex, some not so much

Everyone should be able to live life safely

There are extremists on both sides who seem to enjoy trading insults more than anything.

There is a happy middle ground that most people are in.

Nobody in my social circle really thinks about it. We have some trans people in the broader group (both trans men and trans women), again no one really thinks about it, they just are who they are.

I would say most believe that transgender women are transgender women and are very accepting of that. Most believe that there should be separate spaces for trans women but not in women’s spaces. Most are concerned about the numbers of vulnerable ASD and neurodiverse young people looking to the trans community to help solve their issues. We are mainly teachers/youth workers/ mental health workers who are working directly with ‘trans’ young people.

Almost everyone thinks it's silly. People who think more about it recognise it can be harmful. A lot don't realise how far it goes - males in women's sports etc. The only people who think genderism is beyond criticism tend to be youngsters who've been raised with the doctrine.

Most of my network never seem to discuss it. I don't know if it's because they're closet terfs and are worried I'm not 😂

I suspect the majority don't give it a second thought because most of my close circle don't do Twitter or MN. I expect if I asked them outright, they'd say "live and let live/don't care what people wear/call themselves" which I would wholeheartedly agree with, but I doubt any of them have even given much thought to trans people in women's sport, or men being in women's spaces, or kids being butchered, which are all the things I object to.

^^ this is us too.

How can we say if you're being unreasonable or not when you haven't stated your opinion?

Everyone I know ( including parents and adult/teenage children) are completely accepting of people wearing whatever clothes they like and expressing themselves however they please, but think the trans issue is nonsense, people cannot change sex and men who force themselves in to women’s spaces/ sports are predatory and/or bullying . No one thinks trans women are women.

Which is exactly how I feel on the subject.

Yep 👍

Grew up surrounded by gender-bending teens and twenty-somethings. Cross-dressing Goths, butch lesbians who dressed in typically male clothing of the time, effeminate men who wore eyeliner and their girlfriend's lingerie. Drag Queens, Drag Kings, leather daddies. Nobody gave a shit because everyone was eccentric in some respect.

Still couldn't care less about how someone presents or how they describe themselves. I don't see it as my business really. Provided they are not breaking any laws they're of no more significance to me than any other person.

People can identify as whatever they wish. Not bothered and I will use their preferred pronouns.

However, biological men should not be allowed in womens sport, bathrooms, changing rooms or any other female safe space regardless of how they identify. Penises do not belong in womens safe spaces. No exceptions.

Men vs women in sport is categorically unfair and trans athletes should have their own suitable category.

If you lived in London and spent a lot of time in SoHo or Camden or the like, it would be surprising.

But if you lived outside of a city and didn’t spend much time in trendy areas, it’s really not that unlikely. In the 80s all the men I knew who wore skirts and make up or had long hair, etc. dressed for work in suits, no make up and with their hair hidden away one way or another. You wouldn’t have guessed what they looked like on a Friday night when we went clubbing.

Older generation age 80 plus have a couple of trans acquaintances- they don’t really have a problem about it but don’t know about the radical side of things ( women being cancelled and men in sports - they are bemused by this)

my age range - not a problem with how someone wishes to live their life however men and women ( middle aged) know you can’t change sex and that a bloke in a dress cannot possibly comprehend what women have experienced in life ( enlightened husbands who have seen wives struggle with career and sexism etc)
Concerned for how men are dominating female sports and the recent comment that gay men like vaginas ( see Mr Menno)

Younger generation ( 20s) vary but the young women believe trans women are women - the young men look bemused by it all

So our common threads are wanting people to live in harmony and acceptance but a growing awareness that the radicals are using threats of violence and some very strange use of Language to spout utter nonsense

trans people should be treated well but you cannot change sex. Women's spaces should be protected

This more or less.

This.
Wear a frock. Call yourself Elizabeth. But keep your dick the fuck out of teenage girls' changing rooms.