Single one component measle vaccine

[MimiDuncan]

Hi All,

I am wondering if any of you decided to give to their little ones the single one component measle vaccine? ( babyjabs are offering it)

if yes how it turned out?

many thanks,

And she needs protecting by herd immunity created by others being vaccinated,
As i said above my dc had genetic febrile convulsions which last longer and go on until puberty. My family have far more than the norm, i think ds had over 20 .
Vaccines cause febrile convulsions but so do the diseases we vaccinate against.
Weighing up the risks i would rather know when he had the vaccine and could keep an eye on him for a couple of days rather than him suddenly coming down something like measles when he was out and about and by himself, as it was he had a febrile convulsion at 13 caused by pneumonia, really scared the school staff!

If anything is not going to make people less fearful it will be posts claiming to know people who have been severely vaccine injured. I doubt that anyone would decide not to vaccinate their child because they think a complete stranger, who does not claim to be a scientist or health care professional was "sneering and rude" to them on the internet but if they do they are not a fit parent.

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That is not the point. People who sneer instead of putting forward arguments are not helping any cause.

The mmr is measles, mumps and rubella (German measles).
Whooping cough is in the 6in1 along with tetanus, diphtheria and polo (can't remember the other 2 in it).
I had the mmr as a booster in my 20s due to an outbreak of mumps at college I had the same rash as you but other than that nothing not even a temperature. If you are worried about catching mumps I recommend getting the mmr, the drs can reassure you that it's safe (I had the single dose vaccines previously and still caught mild cases of measles and German measles too).

I have put forward plenty of arguments.

The number of vaccine threads on here in which a parent with questions is given answers - including to speak to their GP - and who expresses their thanks and feeling of reassurance is very small.

Most threads start off with misgivings about vaccines as a pretext for anti-vaxxers to start talking about vaccine damage and how the diseases aren’t so bad after all.

Calls for understanding treatment and (baseless) criticism of sneering etc, are on the whole attempts to limit the responses so that the anti-vaxxers aren’t handed their arses.

This is not a subject that deserves “well, it’s all very difficult isn’t it?” answers. Because (a) other than for a very, very few that’s not true and (b) is too serious for equivocation on an internet forum.

We’d be better off without vaccine discussion here.

That's not how this forum works. We have freedom of speech and people are allowed to have concerns about health related matters. They are allowed to share their own experiences.

It doesn't make them anti vaxxers. I haven't seen anyone say the diseases aren't that bad at all. There's a whole heap of people generally in favour of vaccination but not having blind faith because that's plain silly. There is a vaccine damage unit for a reason and to deny that and have people rant on about removing child benefit for non compliance is patently ridiculous.

People can't defend a woman's right to choose on the one hand and then advocate for forced vaccination on the other.

That is a wonderful display of anti-vax argument.

Freedom of speech does not include the freedom to mislead. Or the freedom to promote a dangerous public health risk.

If you mean me when you talk about “people rant on about removing child benefit for non compliance is patently ridiculous”, I made clear that I prefer imposing legal liability. It already applies to those who knowingly spread serious disease. I would just extend it to those who knowingly advocate for the risk of spread, by encouraging others not to vaccinate. That’s only fair.

For the umpteenth time I'm not an anti vaxxer although it doesn't suit your narrative so feel free to keep slinging false accusations.

I've also not misled or promoted any dangerous health risk. I’ve presented objective fact, easily verifiable statistics and my own experience. I've said repeatedly I'm in favour of vaccination and would be the worlds worst anti vaxxer given that I have the flu jab every year, have had the chicken pox jab and several others outside of routine schedule because of my former line of work. But again it doesn't suit does it as it destroys your argument. You're the only one misleading here.

All you and another poster are doing is the opposite of what I suppose is your actual intent. Suggesting people be forced to have vaccinations/imposing a legal liability is a slippery slope and by far a more dangerous position than other replies on this thread. You cannot tell people what they can and can't do with their own bodies. Bodily autonomy and the concept of consent is fundamental to any civilised society. Freedom of choice is paramount.

NHS frontline staff take up of seasonal flu vaccination is only about 50%.. are you seriously suggesting half the workforce actually responsible for the nation's health should be forced to be vaccinated against their will? Are they rabid anti vaxxers too?

The argument is utterly bonkers.

Your resort to ‘high-minded’ (not) and apparently scary notions (wrong again) of dictatorial powers to interfere with bodily autonomy is pure anti-vax argument.

I do not want anyone to be forced to vaccinate. I do want liability for mischief makers. The trouble is that some parents who might well otherwise vaccinate their children are confronted by people like you who want to talk about vaccine damage to sow the seeds of doubt and reluctance.

If that isn’t what you want to do, why do you feel so compelled to raise vaccine damage? Why not just suggest that readers speak to their GPs who can advise them about the overwhelming benefits and the truly minuscule risks?

You also know, but have never said, that the vanishingly small numbers of children damaged by the MMR vaccine are eligible for compensation. But the much larger number of those who would be injured by the diseases get nothing.

And why do you lump together completely different vaccines for completely different diseases?

One poster on this thread - not you - has suggested that harm from measles is minimal.

I agree. They state I'm not an anti vaxxer but .. and then go on to say they know people who have been severely disabled by vaccines. And then quite laughably try to shut down anyone who questions their motives.

If you are referring to me I'm literally the worst anti vaxxer in the world given I have had all of them, as have my children and I've repeatedly said I'm for the vaccines as they save lives.

People are being rude saying people are ignorant, sneering at questions and disbelieving vaccine damage, which is rare but it is also very real. I have witnessed vaccine injury and I still chose to vaccinate because I believe it is the right thing to do. I'm advocating for kindness and compassion to those who have genuine questions and not pouncing on people suggesting that legal liability should be enforced for not vaccinating to scare people into submission.

I'm bowing out of this as you both are so entrenched there is absolutely no point and I'll leave you to your purity spiral.

This has all been answered. You just can’t stop saying “vaccine injury”.

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You keep banging on about it that's why.

I keep saying it’s extraordinarily rare.

You, on the other hand…

Some very vociferous anti vax grifters on social media have been vaccinated themselves funnily enough. Regardless, if you and your children have already been vaccinated why would I need to worry that i will put you off vaccination by not being "kind and compassionate" to you for asking "genuine questions". It is not "sneering" to question the motives of someone who comes on a discussion about vaccination to say that they know someone who has been severely damaged by vaccines and who uses words and phrases that are very much used on anti vaxxer sites.

My god, I wasn't asking you to be kind to me was I? I literally couldn't care less about you and your thoughts of me. It was to be kind and compassionate for people questioning vaccines in order to influence them to take them.

I only mentioned vaccine Injury (there it is again) because another poster (or it could have been you) was going off at another poster for daring to say her child had an adverse reaction. You can't chase off everyone with a different experience or opinion as you.

You can think I'm an anti vaxxer all you like and a big fat liar - I don't care. I'll remain steadfast that you and your ilk are part of the problem. You'll never see it though. Night.

I haven't been rude or sneered at anyone I think is asking genuine question though. Ironic that you are saying that you "can't chase off anyone with a different opinion" when that is in fact what you are trying to do by telling them that they are "rude and sneering" and that this will put people off vaccinating their child.

Hi just came across this post as the uk have banned the single vaccination.
Please can I ask at what age you will give the MMR - if at all? thank you!

At the age recommended by the NHS would be the best thing to do

I wouldn’t do ANYTHING recommended by Babyjabs.

Hi, thats interesting! Thanks for replying. Ive spoken to babyjabs a few times - they have never said that to me?
Do you mean the MMR specifically? How long ago was that can I ask? I think they can't say that now as they are no longer able to import the single vaccine. Not sure what to do now.

Never said what to you?

The founder of babyjabs has/had close links with Wakefield.

He also got in trouble with advertising standards over misleading info on the babyjabs website re MMR