Single one component measle vaccine

[MimiDuncan]

Hi All,

I am wondering if any of you decided to give to their little ones the single one component measle vaccine? ( babyjabs are offering it)

if yes how it turned out?

many thanks,

I know at one time there was a single dose Rubella vaccination which eas given to all girls at about age 12 in the 1980's. Does that still exist, or has it been superceded by the MMR? Also, I believe there was an earlier single version of the Measles vaccine but that there were concerns re brain damage.
At least, this is what my mother told me, when she she explained why I wasn't given the measles vaccine. I got measles just after my 5th birthday party in April, and had a party just before I came down with it, so I gave it to half of the class
I only found out years later that one boy ended up in ICU and another ended up with brain damage
Thankfully I wasn't that badly affected but I remember feeling so ill I was scared I was going to die, and I was left with permanent sight damage.
I remember coming out in a rash after the rubella vaccine at school, and I was taken back to see the nurse who gave me the vax, along with a group of other children. It turned out that this reaction occurred if you had already had German Measles when younger, and it faded very quickly.
This would have been pre MMR, so we weren't given those vacccines because pf the Wakefield thing.
I also remember getting whooping cough just as I started high school, and it was utterly terrifying. I remember feeling like I was choking to death, and looking in the mirror as I was coughing over the sink and seeing that I had turned purple. I .
My mum says she can't remember why I didn't have a vaccine or whether I was ever offered one (we moved around a lot when I was a kid).
The scariest thing in retrospect was that this was just seen as normal. Measles, German Measles, Mumps, Whooping Cough , Chicken Pox and Scarlet Fever was seen as normal childhood illnesses. Needless to say, my kids have had all of their vaccinations!

but I have experienced vaccine injury and I'm sharing that experience.

Why? For what purpose?

You say you’re pro-vaccination. Why be supportive with one hand and fearmonger with the other?

If you want to talk about vaccine injury why don’t you tell the whole truth each time, that such reaction is massively, overwhelmingly unlikely?

You can't get single dose rubella or mumps vaccines and the single dose measles vaccine is the same 1 that was on offer when you were a child which is 1 of the reasons that it's not used in the uk. The single vaccines just aren't as effective as the mmr, they give limited protection (so you still caught the illness but it was a very mild disease) and then theres the added risk of a bad reaction from having 6 separate vaccines instead of 2 doses of the mmr.

Vaccines are a victim of their own success, most anti-vaxers have never seen anyone who has been harmed or killed by say measles or rubella, they just can't conceive of an illness doing the rounds at school and up to 1/4 of the school students vanishing because they are dead or at a special institution due to being blind,deaf and/or brain damaged, those of us who do remember the true horrors of these diseases vaccinate our children and look on at those who don't as murderous fools and know that they will have to explain to there kids (if there lucky enough to survive) why they chose to let them suffer instead of giving them a safe vaccine, others will bury there kids all because they know better than Dr's

I think the well publicised deaths caused by the Covid vaccine are central to the dropping vaccine rates tbh.

There is also, rightly or wrongly, a wide variation in what people perceive as vaccine damage. We didn't put a claim in despite being encouraged to. However dd absolutely suffered harm due to a vaccination. So yes it can be argued that compensation is rare but flags/adverse incident reporting aren't. There was 10,000 alone for the Covid jabs and that figure doesn't even include Astra Zeneca.

The extreme anti vaxxers are given a springboard due to the refusal of some to even discuss the issue as then it smacks of a cover up and starts to give credence to the conspiracy theories.

Strange that you never spend time on ant vaxxer websites as your language is quite typical. I think it would be helpful to know the injury and how common it is.

There is nothing on the information leaflets to confirm what you say you were told in hospital.

So, asking for compassion and empathy are typical of anti Vax sites? I'm not saying we should not be educating people just doing so with less aggression and name calling. We all know that this doesn't work because rates are low so why keep doing it?

A healthy 16 year old had a meningitis vaccine and had a heart attack and organ shut down less than 24 hours later - they are severely disabled now but alive. I have no idea how common it is to be honest, not very i would imagine. I don't believe it is fear mongering to say that this happened as I chose to vaccinate my children despite this. The miniscule risk of this happening is far outweighed by the benefit of having the vaccine as I also know someone who lost a child to meningitis.

You can easily Google it.

Thrombocytopenia is well recognised as a thankfully rare but real risk. Indeed Government guidance changed for the Covid vaccinations due to the acknowledgement of bleeding/clotting issues. Particularly in relation to AZ. You must know this it was all over the news.

I've repeatedly said I'm pro vaccination. I've even had several additional ones outside of standard vaccination schedule. However it serves no purpose to brush things under the carpet.

I didn't say that "asking for compassion and empathy" is typical of anti vax sites. Specific words you use are though.

I don't believe you know a "had a meningitis vaccine and had a heart attack and organ shut down less than 24 hours later" either. Single measles vaccines aren't even available in the UK.

The link above gives a 2.5 in 100,000 risk for ITP from MMR which is mild to moderate and self limiting. The risk of ITP from the diseases is 1 in 3000, so nearly .

I thought you were talking about MMR vaccinations not covid vaccinations. They are not the same thing.

I don't care that you don't believe it, it happened. You asked what happened and I told you.

I didn't realise you couldn't get single versions of it and I said to the OP at the beginning of the thread that all of my friends and family have never had adverse reactions to the MMR.

You really need to rethink your posts as you come across as sneering and rude. I shared my experience (which is pro vax) and just because you don't want to hear it you just dismissed me. The reason rates are low and people don't vaccinate is due to people like you as people can't share their concerns and be educated why vaccines are important and life saving.

I've talked about both as its vaccine induced.

Itp can also be caused by other prescription drugs and things like food poisoning. It can run in families. It can be very sudden onset and be fatal.

I'm just stating facts. That doesn't make me an anti vaxxer. It's only right that people, particularly those with auto immune diseases in their family, are aware. Consent must be informed. It's a balance.

Why are you trusting a profit making company over the NHS? How can any loving parent not want their child protected

Why do you lump all vaccines together though?. You wouldn't say that because one drug caused a particular side effect another drug will cause the same side effect. I'm sure you don't expect all diseases to be the same either.

So you think people don't get their children vaccinated against life threatening diseases because they perceive strangers on an Internet forum to be sneering and rude? Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not. I haven't invented this condition - it's literally called vaccine induced thrombocytopenia.

I'm not sure you're understanding the concept.

I'm not sure that you are understanding the concept that just because one vaccine causes a particular side effect it doesn't mean that another one will and certainly not to the same extent.. Regarding ITP, with MMR this link state it is usually transient self-limiting form of the disease with moderately low platelet counts and milder symptoms. Generally, no treatment is needed.

https://itpsupport.org.uk/mmr-and-itp/

There is also the point the risk from the natural disease for ITP is much higher and not as mild.

The only reason I ever wondered about single vaccines is as an adult. I had measles as a child, so presumably would be immune, I had the Rubella vax at age 11, and as I mentioned earlier, everyone eho had pteviously had Rubella got a mild rash. I also had whooping cough, but to my knowledge I have never had mumps.
I have seen adverts fir MMRs for adults and just wondered what the deal was. I imagine that most people in their late 40s-50s must be in the same situation.

Also, does the MMR even protect against whooping cough?

You think parents who have fears that come to the internet for answers and find lots of sneering and rude replies basically saying that they are ignorant idiots (not you who said this but I've seen this and worse) will be influenced to vaccinate? People get more entrenched in their thinking when they get shut down immediately. I want people to be vaccinated but being sneered at isn't helping is it? Have you found that it's changed anyone's mind?

People need education and kindness not rudeness.

ITP can be fatal. Its a standalone condition that has devastated my family

Its a recognised rare side effect of the MMR but its certainly not limited to that. Hepatitis, HPV and of course Covid.

This is why people push back. Read the room.

and its a recognised condition from the natural disease with more risks!

Yes I don't disagree. That's why my children had the first MMR. Dd reaction to it was why she's not allowed the 2nd.