Single one component measle vaccine

[MimiDuncan]

Hi All,

I am wondering if any of you decided to give to their little ones the single one component measle vaccine? ( babyjabs are offering it)

if yes how it turned out?

many thanks,

That's great for you but not everyone is as fortunate. A school friend caught it and it travelled to her brain. She spent a long time in intensive care and nearly died.
I had a similar experience to yourself, a few spots but otherwise fine. Fast forward thirty years and I now suffer from recurring shingles as a result of having chicken pox.
The chicken pox vaccine is worth every penny imo.

They usually say the pregnant woman is not there problem, they should have got their own vaccine, and their child can get a vaccine when they're older and want to start a family. Because accidental pregnancies never happen.
Many anti-vaxxers think Measles is just a rash and small pox died out due to improved sanitation, you can't reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themself into.

My son's friend had a stroke when he was 6 from Chicken Pox.

Also my DS came in contact with a child who had leukemia the day before the spots came out. She had to be rushed up to GOSH for varicella-zoster immune globulin injection. This had to be repeated everytime they had contact with Chicken Pox.

Obviously I’m talking about those whose children can have the MMR but who choose not to do the right thing for their children and for everyone else. Out of selfishness.

Those whose children genuinely can’t be vaccinated are the first to urge others to do so.

I really don’t care if you find that sensible view about liability for dangerous, selfish people offensive.

Then maybe you should have been more clear rather than just appearing to have an ill-informed rant.

I was perfectly clear.

Why are you even arguing about this? If you and your daughter can’t be vaccinated why aren’t you opposed to selfish people who put you both at risk?

She has been.

She was hospitalised due to the MMR and in a very bad way. We subsequently found out that it can trigger a relatively rare condition that can be fatal. Its a recognised risk of the MMR and I believe some other vaccinations. We were never told.

I support vaccinations in principle but vaccine damage is very real and having people rant about losing child benefit etc..is absolutely counter productive.

Its not selfish to have concerns. You don't know individual circumstances or the reasons behind some parents decision. Your type of extreme position isn't helpful.

It is counterproductive to argue that people should get vaccinated for the sake of others as it gives the impression that there is little benefit to the child themselves when that is anything but the case. Parents should vaccinate children for the sake of their child and that includes the rubella vaccine.

Possibly. But I think it would be a very stupid person who didn’t understand that vaccination offers a personal benefit.

The anti-vaxxers know full well that they’re hiding behind herd immunity. There isn’t enough shame heaped on them for their antisocial choices and bogus alarmism.

The risk of serious adverse reaction to MMR is so slight it barely registers.

The risk from the diseases is so great that they are (and until eradication will continue to be) a national and global scourge.

That sounds scary. What condition is it that MMR can trigger?

@MixedCouple "We are delaying vaccinations due to a family friends child who died from childhood vaccinations,"

You know this is completely irrational, don't you?

I can't find figures or info on studies carried out for the UK but there's an interesting article about a long term study in Finland on potentially serious side effects of the MMR vaccine.

Over 14 years, and 3 million doses, there were 173 serious side effects, of which 45% were later established to have had no connection to the vaccine.

So rare as to be negligible.

And yet on every anti -vax thread started with wide-eyed innocence, those very rare people show up.

What are the chances eh?

To counter another popular argument about vaccines and autism. There was huge Danish study of over half a million children and it found no link between MMR and a diagnosis of autism - in fact, it found that children who have received the MMR vaccine are actually 7% less likely to be diagnosed with autism.

www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2019/03/04/no-link-mmr-vaccine-autism-biggest-ever-study-shows/

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/freedom-of-information-responses-from-the-mhra-week-commencing-31-january-2022/freedom-of-information-request-on-how-many-deaths-have-been-recorded-as-a-result-of-the-measles-mumps-and-rubella-virus-infections-between-2010-and

Here's a FOI report about fatalities reported as potentially having been caused by the MMR vaccine between 2010-2021.

5 reported deaths. None categorically proven to have been caused by the vaccine.

Unsurprisingly.

Yes, there are the MMR increases the likelihood of SIDS scare stories as well. When it's actually statistically proven that all other things being equal, (sleeping position etc) a baby vaccinated with MMR is less likely to be a victim of SIDS.

People would sometimes go on the vax board claiming to be doctors opposed to vaccination. Yeah, right, totally believable.

I do understand - though I vehemently oppose - anti-vaxxers who hide their selfish choice. Some people are just unpleasantly self-centred.

What I think is intolerable is anti-vax argument. It’s so dangerous. People are easily scared by hair-raising accounts of adverse reactions. And all too easily persuaded by misleading graphs and nonsense about washing hands and taking vitamins.

Yes.
Advanced Search is interesting. At least one poster on here who claims to be "pro-vaccine but" has been scattergunning anti-vax shite since at least 2020. All vaccines. Not just MMR.

https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/13164/chapter/1

This if free to download, not sure if its the latest edition but it has a list of vaccines the research and effects of the diseases

There was no MMR when I was wee. I've had measles, German measles and mumps and they were really, really horrible. My siblings and I were very lucky not to have any lasting effects but I know people who were not so lucky and ended up with permanent disabilities.
The problem is that vaccines have been so effective at controlling illnesses like measles that people no longer realise just how serious they are and seem prepared to take a gamble with their children's health by not vaccinating.

In the "olden days" people queued up for vaccines because they were faced day in day out with the horror of smallpox, polio etc and were desperate to avoid catching them. I couldn't get my kids vaccinated quickly enough to help them avoid going through what all my friends and I had been through as children.

If you read the Omnibus cases in the USA and the Wakefield cases none were fine one day and severely damaged the next. Many had concerns before their vaccines and many declined months after their vaccines .

I've just spent 5 hours in Urgent care for a throat infection

There was a small child straight out of a horror film, whooping and coughing

He couldn't breathe for coughing. The noise was appalling.

They sent the mum to A&E.

#VaccinesWork

They can't rely on herd immunity. There are continuously outbreaks.

That’s the problem. That’s why there were long queues outside clinics at, for example, the time of the Swansea outbreak. That’s when anti-vaxxers decide they’re not anti any longer.

But there are sufficiently few outbreaks (in the UK) that there is a persistent if changing group of vaccine refusers - with their bizarre ‘I know best’ mindset - egging on others who are hesitant. So eradication is out of reach.

The problem with not explaining population immunity and transmission is that people think “I don’t know anyone who’s had measles/whooping cough/rubella etc. My kids are safe enough without jabs.” And round we go.

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