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Single one component measle vaccine

228 replies

MimiDuncan · 16/02/2024 15:08

Hi All,

I am wondering if any of you decided to give to their little ones the single one component measle vaccine? ( babyjabs are offering it)

if yes how it turned out?

many thanks,

OP posts:
bruffin · 16/02/2024 16:12

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 16/02/2024 16:01

I really, really hope we’re not seeing the return of the MN anti-vaxxers. The vax board was a swamp of dangerous bullshit. A few very smart and diligent MNers used to put in a lot of effort to shoot down the falsehoods. 👏

If this nonsense does break out again I think there should be a concerted effort to get MN to ban anti-vax posts. I very much doubt that MN would tolerate posts advocating the exposure of children to the risks of fire or road accidents or abuse. Why allow posts that encourage exposure to appalling diseases?

There have been a few MMR single jabs lately , makes you wonder if they are genuine.

ColleenDonaghy · 16/02/2024 16:13

Rainbowunicornsparkles · 16/02/2024 16:04

There are at least two MNetters from bygone days with children who reacted badly to the vaccine and were left permanently disabled as a result.

Of course, the majority of children have the vaccine and are fine. But a small minority are not fine. I don’t think that is being anti vax but some would say that it is.

It's not anti vax to acknowledge that vaccines, like any other medicine, can cause side effects and complications in a small proportion of the population.

It is anti vax to suggest that the risk of harm from a vaccine is in any way comparable to to risk of harm from the diseases in question.

It is also a common anti vax standpoint to apply more scrutiny to the MMR than other childhood vaccines, which is solely thanks to that charlatan Wakefield.

Rainbowunicornsparkles · 16/02/2024 16:14

It is anti vax to suggest that the risk of harm from a vaccine is in any way comparable to to risk of harm from the diseases in question.

True at a population level but not perhaps an individual one.

ColleenDonaghy · 16/02/2024 16:15

NeverDropYourMooncup · 16/02/2024 16:12

That malign prick Wakefield is going for the Mumps vaccines now.

Expect lots of very ill children and sterile men. If they don't end up dying/deaf/otherwise harmed by Measles in the first place, they can look forward to being deprived of the chance to have children by their gullible parents.

If he gets away with this, it'll be Rubella next. All those women and babies for him to make millions from killing, bet he can't wait.

Fuck off. You can't be serious. How on earth is he still given the time of day, by anyone.

dementedpixie · 16/02/2024 16:15

You cant even get single vaccines for all the components of M, M or R. The only single vaccine is measles as the others are only available as combined vaccines.

bruffin · 16/02/2024 16:19

Jc2001 · 16/02/2024 15:35

Worse than that, they're exploiting people's fear and ignorance.

And got prosecuted for false advertising by the advertising standards for claiming MMR caused autism and produced some dodgy research as a defence

NeverDropYourMooncup · 16/02/2024 16:22

ColleenDonaghy · 16/02/2024 16:15

Fuck off. You can't be serious. How on earth is he still given the time of day, by anyone.

I really wish that I could fuck off and say I'm making it up. I'm not. He's got a film coming out about it - one of those 'based upon a True Story' piles of shite. Going to make millions out of it.

Bushmillsbabe · 16/02/2024 16:23

MixedCouple · 16/02/2024 16:02

Chickenpox was never an issue for me or anyone I went to school with. We had a party to spread it - parents. When I was 6 and I had it very mild as did most of my class matee and siblings. Bit itchy that was all. Wouldnt waste money on that.

We are delaying vaccinations due to a family friends child who died from childhood vaccinations, yes I know it is rare but being so close to home it scared us.

Chickenpox can be quite dangerous in some children. Our oldest had it at 2 years old and became very unwell and was in hospital for over 2 weeks and off nursery for about 6 weeks until well enough to return. At 8 she still has deep scars all over her body including her face, which aren't a major issue, but she is very conscious of them. So we paid the £100 to get our 2nd vaccinated against chickenpox, as we couldn't bear the thought of another child going through that when so easily prevented. Most first world countries offer the chickenpox vaccination routinely, and the UK will be doing that too.
I work in paediatrics and see many children who are now severely disabled due to not being vaccinated.
As you say, our personal experiences may not be representative of the overall risk, but do affect our choices

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 16/02/2024 16:26

randomchap · 16/02/2024 15:13

There is absolutely no reason not to give your child the mmr.

Wakefield was a fraud, anyone pushing the autism/mmr so called link is a bullshitter

Vaccine injury can and does happen - if people want to stagger the immunisation then that should be a perfectly valid choice. I gave both DC the MMR but I don't judge others for looking at something differently.

I find the vaccine threads awful when someone is asking a perfectly valid and acceptable question.

wombat15 · 16/02/2024 16:29

I had mumps as a child and I still remember the pain and how ill I was. It's one of my earliest memories. No way would I want my own children to get it.

MrsSkylerWhite · 16/02/2024 16:31

Just have the mmr, it’s safe.

wombat15 · 16/02/2024 16:33

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 16/02/2024 16:26

Vaccine injury can and does happen - if people want to stagger the immunisation then that should be a perfectly valid choice. I gave both DC the MMR but I don't judge others for looking at something differently.

I find the vaccine threads awful when someone is asking a perfectly valid and acceptable question.

It's not a "perfectly valid choice" if single vaccines aren't available.

RawBloomers · 16/02/2024 16:39

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 16/02/2024 16:26

Vaccine injury can and does happen - if people want to stagger the immunisation then that should be a perfectly valid choice. I gave both DC the MMR but I don't judge others for looking at something differently.

I find the vaccine threads awful when someone is asking a perfectly valid and acceptable question.

Vaccine injury risk is increased by having a higher number of injections. So it’s not sound reason for giving more single jabs instead of MMR.

Grapewrath · 16/02/2024 16:47

I’m not sure OP but i know when i enquired a few years ago they didn’t do the single jabs.
DD had MMR and the rubella part put her in hospital. My other kids didn’t have MMR and they all got measles (including dd with MMR).

JSMill · 16/02/2024 18:12

Get the MMR. It's safe. Measles and mumps can have serious complications apart from making you very poorly. Rubella is very dangerous for unborn babies. I think the problem we have now is there is a lot of people who have never seen these illnesses and their consequences. It's an abstract concept for them.

Knickerbockerstory · 16/02/2024 18:40

VickyEadieofThigh · 16/02/2024 15:45

Can I ask why not?

Because I’ve already had mumps and didn’t need that part of the vaccine

Jc2001 · 16/02/2024 20:44

MixedCouple · 16/02/2024 16:03

Thats a bit communist. Ever heard of free speech and free thinking.... Democracy?
If MN did that it wouldn't be welcoming to all people of all views.

Just because people have a right to an free speech it doesn't mean other people have to tolerate the Flat Earthers.

Coyoacan · 17/02/2024 12:34

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying

I could say the same about the bots for the pharmaceutical industry.

Any medical treatment deserves discussion, especially when we parents are making choices for our children.

Some children are injured by vaccines and some children are injured by common childhood ailments.

modgepodge · 17/02/2024 12:45

MimiDuncan · 16/02/2024 15:08

Hi All,

I am wondering if any of you decided to give to their little ones the single one component measle vaccine? ( babyjabs are offering it)

if yes how it turned out?

many thanks,

not me personally, but plenty of people have chosen to do this. I’d imagine how it turned out was that their child ended up protected from measles (good), but not protected from mumps or rubella. Both of which can have horrible consequences, it’s just not in the news at the moment like measles is. Plus, they will have paid money to not fully protect their child. Interesting choice in my opinion.

As above, I’d have a lovely free MMR at your local GP, get fully protected from 3 nasty diseases and use the money to instead vaccinate against chicken pox. 4 vaccinations for the price of 1! Chicken pox is often not too severe (though it can be and can cause death) but I’ve never heard of anyone actually enjoying having it or enjoying having to keep kids off school/nursery and stay at home for a week or 2, so if you have the money spare it’s worth doing.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/02/2024 12:49

Coyoacan · 17/02/2024 12:34

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying

I could say the same about the bots for the pharmaceutical industry.

Any medical treatment deserves discussion, especially when we parents are making choices for our children.

Some children are injured by vaccines and some children are injured by common childhood ailments.

I have no love for big pharma. But it is a heavily regulated industry. And much of what it does is invaluable. (Not all, I agree.)

Anti-vaxxers just distort the truth, at best, and more usually tell outright lies. Theirs is a strange - and in its own way horribly fascinating - motivation. Why undermine the most significant public health benefit of all time, something that protects us all, even those very few who can’t be vaccinated? A benefit that we all know is proven to have kept hundreds of millions of children from disability and death.

There were even anti-vaxxers on here who denied that smallpox was eradicated by vaccination. Truly bonkers. But v dangerous too.

TinyYellow · 17/02/2024 12:49

Single vaccines are a perfectly valid choice. It’s obviously not anti vax, because it’s still giving a vaccine.

My dc had single vaccines but it was 20+ years ago. It was a positive experience for us but I’m not sure if so it again if the single mumps vaccine wasn’t available.

dementedpixie · 17/02/2024 13:05

Single vaccines arent a valid choice now as there is only 1 Single vaccine for measles that exists. If you want the mumps or rubella vaccines you would need to get a combined vaccine anyway

bruffin · 17/02/2024 13:19

dementedpixie · 17/02/2024 13:05

Single vaccines arent a valid choice now as there is only 1 Single vaccine for measles that exists. If you want the mumps or rubella vaccines you would need to get a combined vaccine anyway

They have never been a valid hoice as the only people who recommend them make money from recommending single vaccines.
Even Wakefield had his own single measles vaccine lined up

tutttutt · 17/02/2024 13:38

Rainbowunicornsparkles · 16/02/2024 16:04

There are at least two MNetters from bygone days with children who reacted badly to the vaccine and were left permanently disabled as a result.

Of course, the majority of children have the vaccine and are fine. But a small minority are not fine. I don’t think that is being anti vax but some would say that it is.

There are even more who didn't have the vaccine and ended up disabled or dead. Your understanding of risk is woeful.