Single one component measle vaccine

[MimiDuncan]

Hi All,

I am wondering if any of you decided to give to their little ones the single one component measle vaccine? ( babyjabs are offering it)

if yes how it turned out?

many thanks,

I had measles as a small child. It affected my eyesight. I don’t have clarity of vision in one eye, and will eventually lose my sight in this eye. The other eye has problems of its own, not caused by measles.

Of course they aren’t. No one is. But we don’t have vaccines to protect others - or shouldn’t anyway.

Women of child bearing age are quite able to have the rubella vaccine. It is ethically dubious to have babies take a risk for adult women.

So you don't think people should have vaccines to protect their own future children? As for adult women receiving it, it could be a bit late by then. Children sometimes get pregnant.
You could wait until they are 11 years old as they used to but they will still be children. You are just advocating giving children extra injections.

So you don't think people should have vaccines to protect their own future children

What I think is fairly simple. Pregnant women are at risk from rubella; therefore, women of child bearing age are the ones who should receive this vaccine IMO. I don’t think babies should be asked to take a risk to protect adults.

You can't bring facts and logic into this! We're talking about anti-vaxxers!

Sounds great until someone's mummy catches it from their child while pregnant

On balance, in the best interests of the child not to have a seriously disabled sibling if it can be helped, especially when the older sibling has to grow up knowing their illness caused that to the disabled child

We do have vaccines to protect others, that's exactly what we do. Herd immunity. Some people are unable to have vaccinations due to other conditions, they rely on others doing so, when people refuse vaccinations because of nonsense they've read on Facebook they're endangering those people.

There's also at least one whose daughter died from measles complications.

We should protect others, that should be an intrinsic part of the social contract. If you don't want to do your bit you shouldn't expect to be a part of that society.

I think the company the OP mentions are breaking the law by advertising unlicensed medicines to the public.

I’d have had chicken pox vaccine for dds in a heartbeat if it had been available. Sod’s Law means they’re bound to get it just before some major family do, or you’re just about to go on holiday - as happened to a friend of mine.

And if you’ve got more than one child, getting it one after the other, that can mean weeks. Dd has had her 3 vaccinated.
And it’s not necessarily a mild illness at all - my dd2 had it quite badly at 3.

We have vaccines to protect each other.

None of us knows whether we or our children will be vaccine non-responders and therefore at risk of death or serous harm from these diseases.

If most people are vaccinated outbreaks do not occur, so everyone, including the non-responders are protected because they are not exposed. This is herd immunity.

If vaccination rates drop, outbreaks occur, diseases spread and harm or kill some of the unvaccinated and some of the non-responders.

The vaccine doesn't protect adults. Rubella isn't dangerous to adults particularly if they have been immunized. By giving your child the vaccine you would be protecting their future unborn children. Why do you think that is wrong? Do you think your child will thank you if they contracted rubella when pregnant and lost their baby or their baby had serious birth defects because you didn't get them vaccinated?
You keep saying "women" of childbearing age can make the decision as if everyone of child bearing age is over 18. Many 11 year olds are of childbearing age. Why is it better to wait until they are 11 and give them the injection then rather than when they are babies?

Aren’t you the poster who wanted to delay the mmr in your last post?

How many times do you need to be told that the benefits outweigh the risks?

What benefit to you are these posts you’re making on MN? You don’t seem to want to listen to anyone who tells you anything other than what supports your ‘I’m not really an anti vaxxer’ anti vaxxer stance. Surely there’s any number of websites you can continually post this shit on where you can all foam at the mouth over the awful vaccines…?

Rubella itself can cause complications as any virus can. The herd immunity offered by childhood rubella!vaccination has all but irradiated it circulating in the community so no, maybe the direct benefit to the child is relatively small but it protects more than any of their own future children. It protects their future siblings and all unborn children, particularly those of women who are around children alot.

Vaccines aren’t randomly given to protect one another. They are given to benefit the individual. I recently gave my son the chickenpox vaccine: that was to prevent him getting chickenpox, not anyone else.

You're right about one thing, they're not randomly given they're systematically given to entire groups to protect everyone from transmittable diseases. YOU may only have given your son the chicken pox vaccine to protect him, but the government gives them for free to protect EVERYONE at risk.

Luckily, those who don't care about the social contract generally still take them as they offer protection to them too.

No, not randomly
As part of an organised public health measure with the intention of stopping transmission wherever possible.
That's why it's not compulsory...unlike other things that benefit everyone like laws and taxes.

Do you not think your son would suffer if his unborn child died or suffered serious complications because he gave the mother rubella when she was pregnant? Do you not thinking looking after a severely disabled child would have an impact?

I don’t think it’s the responsibility of a child to protect adults, no.

And what about when your child is grown, and other younger parents have taken a similar attitude to you and refused to vaccinate? When there’s no effective herd immunity so there are frequent outbreaks? What if turns out your DD is a vaccine non-responder, or can’t have the vaccine for medical reasons, so she’s at significant risk of contracting rubella? What would you say to those parents?

It is the responsibility of adults to protect their children from some unnecessary suffering in the future though and that is what you will be doing if you get your child vaccinated.

What if turns out your DD is a vaccine non-responder, or can’t have the vaccine for medical reasons, so she’s at significant risk of contracting rubella? What would you say to those parents

Nothing.

It is still not the responsibility of those parents to risk their child for mine.

Have you met anyone who is vaccine damaged? I have. It is rare, of course it is, but it’s catastrophic. (I realise that may sound contentious written down and it isn’t, it just may explain our differing viewpoints on this.)

Those parents risked their own child too as they may get rubella when pregnant or when their partner is pregnant.

You keep repeating that while ignoring the fact that it is unborn children who require protection, not adults. And the unborn child most at risk could be your grandchild.