To think this is a vote winner (though not election clincher) from Sunak?

[Lion400]

Thought this was an impressive and clear response to the question, from Rishi. I suppose Labour will likely win by a landslide, because many people don’t care enough about women’s rights. Because I do care very much about women’s rights, I may vote Conservative for the first time ever (cue outrage for Lion). Will I regret it? Possibly. But I’d regret voting for Labour (aka women’s rights removers), even more.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

Care isn’t the right word. None of the politicians care about much. Conservatives have confirmed that they understand that women don’t have penises.

Can only hope they will come round to scientific fact and protect women in safe spaces, sports etc etc (no need to rehash) sooner rather than later 13 YEARS in power - why have the Tories NOT done this?

You seem to believe if they win the next election it will be their first priority - well it hasn't been so far.

You don;t seem to understand that they have have had 13 years to do something - and haven't - but RS saying 'women don't have a penis' is enough to sway you - honestly I'm baffled

So it’s swaying your vote but you care about women’s rights? Again - how do you care for women with everything that people have said about how Tories don’t care for women?

Some of them do think women can have penises. One of them even believes he is a woman with a penis.🤯

The whole at least the Tories know what a woman is thing was a lie created by Tory spin doctors. It was never true. Its not true now.🤷‍♀️

This.

You know what the biggest threats on a female ward in hospital are?

Understaffed shifts. Knackered doctors and nurses. Lack of understanding of conditions like endometriosis and adenomyosis. Lack of breastfeeding support for those who want to do it, with links to PND. Long waiting lists. High maternal mortality rates for black women.

It's not trans people. It just isn't.

😂 Thanks for that tip. What would I do without you.

Tee hee!

Both parties are utterly, absolutely and outrageously SHIT on supporting women. The misogyny is rife in both, for different reasons. I'm an ex-Labour voter and would never vote Tory, but God am I absolutely fucking incandenscent at Starmer's repeated throwing of women under the bus.

How fucking DARE he.

The Tories - well I can believe they'd throw women under the bus, no surprises there. But Labour? What an abject betrayal.

And why are we putting up with it? We're 51% of the voters and no fucker represents us and every major party is blatantly and openly falling over themselves to take away our rights. Why is this still going on? Why have we not mobilised?

Im sure that is true. The state of the nhs is throughly depressing / distressing. Neither party will improve it much.
Labour are the ones to start dismantling it btw. Though that is water under the bridge now. I voted for Blair as well.

If they are so sure why the fuck have they not done anything about enshrining this in law? They have had 13 years. Why the wait? If they genuinely gave fuck surely they would have done it by now.

Either you are gullible or a Tory to have fallen for this.

If this is your single issue, then your choices are SDP and Reform UK. You can't trust the Tories on this.

Also:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trans-scotland-mridul-wadhwa-for-women-scotland/

Trans women are the danger…

Why are you quoting that? Mridul Wadhwa is a misogynist male who wants to "educate" women who want female only spaces after they've been raped by men.

I think that a government under which food bank use has escalated so much isn't a government that has the interests of women (and children) at heart. Rather the opposite. The rise in the number of children living in poverty, and the amount of children and families living in temporary accommodation also seem to suggest that they don't, actually, give a toss. They have also been in government for rather a long time, a fact that they seem, rather conveniently forget, bit like goldfish swimming in a bowl who think whoah, look at that excellent bridge.

I'm rather surprised anyone thinks that how they're planning to vote is so interesting that they have to start two threads regaling us with all the whys and wherefores.

I’m rather touched that you felt strongly enough to comment on both of said threads. It means a lot soots.

Quite. The 'concern' is overwhelming.

These threads always trot out some bullshit about having previously voted Labour etc.

I'm unhappy with Labour's position on this issue. However, this country has been hollowed out by the Tory government. The party is slithering further to the right, is now sustaining itself on shrieking 'WOKE' at every turn and trying to outdo each other on sheer cruel, hard-right rhetoric as they jostle to become leader of the opposition.

The Tories are an absolute disgrace, an embarrassment and a stain on the fucking country. Education, the NHS, Fucking Brexit, everything they've touched is a disaster.

This particular, painful issue aside, I judge the fuck out of anyone voting for more of this.

The official Tory line might now be 100% of women don’t have a penis, but the supermajority of the GenderWoo shitshow was their doing.

They responded to the UN finding that the government breaches the Human Rights of the disabled population on the regular by, essentially, going “nu-uuuh!” & then giving us a battering for telling on them to teacher the UN. Why did they shelve the extra money for the Disabled Facilities Grant? It’s means-tested, so the wealthy elderly don’t benefit from it. And of course announcing then dropping it on the sky means people who don’t [know anyone who] need[s] to apply for one means a fair chance of people thinking “ah now, they did that nice thing for disabled people, didn’t they, they’re not utterly heartless bastards”.

The Tories have been determinedly running the NHS into the ground since they got their grubby mitts back on it. Unsurprising, given how many have publicly announced they want to flog it off & set up a US style system. They are a scandal-riven bundle of amoral opportunists with the occasional individual (mostly in the Lords, admittedly) who is presumably there because exceptions are required to prove rules.

People will vote for the Tories for all sorts of reasons. But despite the importance of women’s rights, I’d sooner autoimmolate - not least because the Tory party aren’t really interested in anyone but the wealthy & privileged; & as we know from the pandemic, specifically the male wealthy & privileged. ^^

The Tories have done so much to ruin women's rights, taking Tax credits & making them part of Universal Credit which in most cases mean that women & families get less money, putting a cap on Child Benefit, the two child cap. The state of maternity care, for the first time in decades infant mortality & maternal death rates are increasing due to poor maternity care. Universal Credit makes it harder for women in abusive relationships to leave, the lack of social housing means that more women & children end up in hostels or sofa surfing if they find the courage to leave. The lack of Legal Aid makes it harder to go through family courts & obtain a divorce. The horrifically low conviction rates for rape & sexual assault, if a woman puts herself through reporting a rape, going through all the investigations, the video interview where she has to relive her attack only for the CPS to decide not to take the case to court. The lack of confidence in the Police Force, how many officers have been either convicted or dismissed for offences against women. The low priority by the NHS for women's health, it can be nothing unusual for a woman to have to wait a month to see a doctor for women's health problems, if it was a man they would be seen much quicker. That's just a few of the reasons I will be voting Labour in the next GE.

Don't the tories still call women totty ? Certainly heard one refer to female journos as totty .

Labour have worrying views on women (and men deciding they are women) which I believe will erode women's rights.
I agree that underfunded services is also an issue.
It's why I don't really want to vote for either party.

@Lion400 and Labour may make things better . They certainly did (to an extent)the last time they were in. The rate of Child poverty in my Council Ward is 46% . Nice eh ? And look at the state of the NHS after 13 years of the Tories deliberately reducing funding and selling off vital services. Shocking. Wages have not risen at the same rate as the cost of living . Mine hasnt since 2009. I feel like weeping in Tesco wondering how I can manage and I am not on NMW. Oh one lot of wages have risen along with the C.O.L - MPs !!! Funny that . And all the GEnder bollocks reform started with Theresa May remember ? The Tories have stood back and let anything happen to women's hostels, refuges , charities etc and not done a thing. Also affordable housing os a feminist issue too or do working class women deserve shit homes at the mercy of Tory landlords??

Oh Labour are not perfect by fair but O wouldn't touch the Tories with a barge poor. The current lot - the whole Boris/Cameron/Sunak/May shenanighans need OUT .