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Step daughters behaviour - AIBU or is my partner?

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LoopyHarry · 10/02/2024 21:14

I will preface by saying that 90% of the time, my step daughters are lovely. We have a great relationship and I love them very much. However, they are now late teens and at an age where there is some attitude, back chat, rudeness etc. I don’t want this thread to start lambasting them, my issue is with my partner.

I will start by I am quite sensitive and a non-confrontational person. I do get upset quite easily, especially at the moment as I have a young baby and I am very sleep deprived. I do accept that I could have perhaps handled these situations better, perhaps been more assertive or authoritarian. I am quite a fair bit younger compared to their dad (20s) and I came into the relationship when they were already older (12+). My relationship with them has always been that of an aunt / sister, as anything else felt inappropriate.

A few months ago, I took both my step daughters out for a day at a spa. It was expensive but I wanted to do something fun and treat them. Within half an hour of getting to the spa, both of them began to bicker and argue with one another. I tried to diffuse the situation as best I could and distract them, however, it resulted in one of them hitting the other in the middle of the spa. At that point I told the one who had hit the other off. For the rest of the day, the one who had been told off didn’t speak, answering with one word, being short and rude in her responses, and there was an awful atmosphere. Not only was it awful in the spa itself, but the hour long car ride home was spent sat in silence.

I told my partner who spoke to them and assured me it wouldn’t happen again.

Fast forward to a few months later, today I had arranged to meet some close family friends in town. We were to leave early in the morning so it tied in with the baby’s feed and nap, and my step daughters were also keen to go shopping before we met the family friends. I already felt a little anxious organising all of this because of what had happened last time. My partner has a hobby on a Saturday, and before he left this morning, he spoke to both of them about what had happened last time and reminded them of behaviour expectations. About ten minutes after he left, an argument started over a jacket that they both wanted to wear. It got progressively louder and worse, and we were at the point of needing to go. They then asked me what I thought, and I said that the one who was already wearing the jacket should wear it and we could always have a look for a similar one in town for the other girl. At that point, my step daughter who I hadn’t sided with, began to rant about how unfair it was, that she had nothing to wear, we’d ruined her outfit, and finished off by saying that her sister and I were both ‘thick’.

At this point I rang my partner and told him he needs to come back from his hobby and accompany his children. I would have just cancelled the day altogether but the family friend had already spent money on her travel arrangements. My partner went mad at me on the phone, saying he should be able to leave them alone with me and I need to be better at disciplining them. He also accused me of taking away his down time and reminding him of an ex who also used to phone him about family drama, and that he felt embarrassed in front of his friends as he had to cancel his hobby that day. I told him that it’s not my job to discipline them, and had I tried that in the past, and it resulted in a ruined day out and atmosphere. I am only trying to do something nice by organising these days out. I wasn’t prepared to do that again. He carried on having a go at me, and I’ll be honest by the end of the call I ended up very upset. He did come back from his hobby, but he has been in a foul mood all day. We haven’t really spoken at all.

My step daughter has apologised to me and we have sorted it out.

I am very upset with my partner, but he insists I just need to change my relationship with them and be bolder in confronting and disciplining their behaviour. I don’t feel that it’s my job to do so, I shouldn’t have to navigate these situations alone and I’ve come in when the children are already older and have established parents, rules, discipline etc.

Who is being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
Thementalloadisreal · 10/02/2024 21:32

My ex was just like that?!

Oh buddy, the thing the ex wife and the current wife have in common…is you

Greentangerines · 10/02/2024 21:32

Hopefully you had a career and life before you settled down.

Make sure you keep your independence.

His attitude towards you is not good.

ErinAoife · 10/02/2024 21:32

It is the minimun he has to do to pay half the expenses for his girls to their mother. When his girls are there, he should spend time with them instead of disappearing to do his hobbies.

Prawncow · 10/02/2024 21:32

You have a DP problem. He’s using you to parent his DC while he goes off to do his own thing.

Cascais · 10/02/2024 21:33

Your partner

stayathomer · 10/02/2024 21:34

Op my jaw just started dropping when I saw what he’d said. You are younger, don’t have teens, and they are at the worst age. Plus he reminded you of what his ex used to do?! Op, as they say, you have a dp problem, not a sc problem!

edited to add- his ex had the same problem

theduchessofspork · 10/02/2024 21:34

His behaviour was more unreasonable - you must remind him right now, that they are not your kids and it is not your job to parent them.

Do you get equal time as him BTW - if not, sort that out. If the girls are only with you half the time, he either needs to change their days or his hobby slot - he should not be disappearing for a chunk of time while they are there.

HOWEVER they are teens and you did take this situation on, so buy a book on teen parenting. Don’t get involved in their rows - just tell them to stop squabbling or you’re leaving without them. You don’t need to ring their dad, just leave them at home You did have to intervene in the spa I agree, but not in a barney over a jacket. Work on being less sensitive, or you own child will also drive you crackers as it grows up.

Duvetdayforme · 10/02/2024 21:35

Stop being a doormat!

It sounds like he’s avoiding paying proper maintenance but not actually parenting his children when they are with you.

@LoopyHarry What would happen if you didn’t live with him? It sounds like the DSDs are old enough to be left home alone. Is that what would happen? Or is their relationship too volatile to risk that.

I do not like the sound of your DH. Not at all.

ToRecordOnlyWater · 10/02/2024 21:35

I think our situations are very similar (except minus the bickering), as in partner similar age to yours and I am similar age to you, DSD is 12. Also with a very young baby ☺️ I know I find it hard to discipline as DSD views me as an auntie/older sister sometimes and therefore the dynamic can be a bit tricky if there’s something that needs addressing. I’d personally have her dad have a chat with them both, and in future tbh I’d hesitate to take them with me unless they show a bit more maturity and you know they won’t try to ruin the day. It sounds lovely you took them for a treat and shit that they took it for granted. However, this is a DP problem as surely it shouldn’t fall entirely on you to be looking after them especially with a baby!

LolaSmiles · 10/02/2024 21:36

If they're teens, they shouldn't need looking after. My DS is a teen and I leave him to go to the gym a couple of times a week. Most parents leave their teens at home alone from time to time.
I know that, but from the OP's posts she's being left to look after them and make arrangements.

Meanwhile her partner disappears off, doesn't want to be contacted, tells his partner not to be like his ex, criticises her as a step parent for not disciplining his children and then is stroppy and creates a bad atmosphere.

DisforDarkChocolate · 10/02/2024 21:38

He's taking the piss. It's not your job to discipline his children while he swans off for the day with a fucking hobby.

I bet some other of their attitude is because this pisses them off too. He needs to step up.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/02/2024 21:40

FruitBat53 · 10/02/2024 21:20

Your mistake is caring for HIS children so he can do a hobby. Stop. They are his responsibility not yours. If he's not available, they should be with their Mum.

And he has absolutely no right to speak to you like that.

Absolutely. There is no you 'should' do anything with them. If he's at a hobby he accepts they're left alone with no supervision or he arranges a babysitter. How dare he, especially when you have your baby to look after!

Spirallingdownwards · 10/02/2024 21:41

In such circumstances I would have said neither of you are wearing the jacket. Ms f then said in the car now please.

We are leaving. And if they didn't get in the car I would have indeed left as they are old enough to look after themselves and chances are 1 or both would have got in the car.

Although close in age to you I think perhaps you are trying too hard to be their friend.

And I do disagree with some of the posters. In 50/50 contact situations then there is much more a family situation than a they are visitors so Dad should be there at all times situation.

umbrel · 10/02/2024 21:41

Yet another man with a younger girlfriend taking over his childcare so he doesn’t have to pay maintenance.

It’s a lazy Boyfriend issue.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/02/2024 21:41

LolaSmiles · 10/02/2024 21:24

Unless they live with you full time, why is he disappearing off for his hobby for large chunks of time leaving you to look after his children?

The red flag to me is that he went for the "my ex was awful and rang me about family things when I was with my friends" line and has been moody after. It sounds like he's hoping that you'll be so desperate not to be like his ex and want to avoid his bad moods that next time you'll leave him to his precious hobby.

I agree with this. Poor ex is probably glad he
'Has' to be in charge 50% of the time now... except he's not, he's got you to do it!

SleepPrettyDarling · 10/02/2024 21:41

YANBU but at the same time, remember that lots of teen sisters bicker and squabble over whose jacket, whose mascara, who sits in the front seat - and those petty sort of squabbles are not worth ringing their dad about. Just roll your eyes (metaphorically) and tell them to sort it out now or you’ll leave without them.

you might have a bigger problem with your DH though. Paying 50% is literally the bare minimum.

Ponderingwindow · 10/02/2024 21:42

You aren’t in charge of his children. If they are acting up, it is his job to come home and deal with it. He has half the time when he only has the responsibility of one child and that is when yes, the two of you should be swapping recreation time.

As for diffusing situations, if they are arguing over clothing, no one is obligated to loan clothing. the jacket belongs to someone and if they want to wear it, or simply don’t want the other sister to wear it, then that is the end of the discussion.

User19798 · 10/02/2024 21:44

He bollocked you for interrupting his down time when you were looking after his dc?!? Wtf?

BornIn78 · 10/02/2024 21:46

Yet another man who has gone for 50/50 custody and then found a gullible woman to do the grunt work of looking after his children for him while he swans about like a free agent.

FabFebHalfTerm · 10/02/2024 21:47

In future don't include them in your plans or make plans for their benefit.

No way would I be having teens live with me on a 50:50 basis from age 12 that I couldnt/wouldn't 'parent'.

your DH IS out of order too. Complaing it's what an EX did too. He needs to look at his own attitude. Sharpish!!

NotARealWookiie · 10/02/2024 21:49

He’s decided to have his children 50% of the time so he needs to decide to only do his hobby for 50% of the time too. Otherwise why is he depriving their mother of having them?

Oh wait…so that he doesn’t have to pay maintenance.

Beezknees · 10/02/2024 21:49

LolaSmiles · 10/02/2024 21:36

If they're teens, they shouldn't need looking after. My DS is a teen and I leave him to go to the gym a couple of times a week. Most parents leave their teens at home alone from time to time.
I know that, but from the OP's posts she's being left to look after them and make arrangements.

Meanwhile her partner disappears off, doesn't want to be contacted, tells his partner not to be like his ex, criticises her as a step parent for not disciplining his children and then is stroppy and creates a bad atmosphere.

Yeah I'd just tell him I'm leaving them at home! He needs to be contactable for his children.

LoopyHarry · 10/02/2024 21:50

@SleepPrettyDarling I know teens have petty arguments and that’s to be expected, I can deal with that most of the time or they sort of out between themselves. It’s because it escalated to me being called ‘thick’. That’s why I rang my DP.

OP posts:
Boomboomshakeshaketheroom · 10/02/2024 21:50

I'm confused about the ages - late teens is 17-19yo but the post reads as though these two are younger and still need more parental involvement.

For future, the answer to 'who should wear the jacket?' is 'I'm not getting involved in your petty arguments!'

For the rest, your DH is unreasonable of course.

YourLocal · 10/02/2024 21:52

I mean ur slightly unreasonable because teens are usually like that but you shouldn’t be sassed at all the time so idk im in the middle