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Step daughters behaviour - AIBU or is my partner?

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LoopyHarry · 10/02/2024 21:14

I will preface by saying that 90% of the time, my step daughters are lovely. We have a great relationship and I love them very much. However, they are now late teens and at an age where there is some attitude, back chat, rudeness etc. I don’t want this thread to start lambasting them, my issue is with my partner.

I will start by I am quite sensitive and a non-confrontational person. I do get upset quite easily, especially at the moment as I have a young baby and I am very sleep deprived. I do accept that I could have perhaps handled these situations better, perhaps been more assertive or authoritarian. I am quite a fair bit younger compared to their dad (20s) and I came into the relationship when they were already older (12+). My relationship with them has always been that of an aunt / sister, as anything else felt inappropriate.

A few months ago, I took both my step daughters out for a day at a spa. It was expensive but I wanted to do something fun and treat them. Within half an hour of getting to the spa, both of them began to bicker and argue with one another. I tried to diffuse the situation as best I could and distract them, however, it resulted in one of them hitting the other in the middle of the spa. At that point I told the one who had hit the other off. For the rest of the day, the one who had been told off didn’t speak, answering with one word, being short and rude in her responses, and there was an awful atmosphere. Not only was it awful in the spa itself, but the hour long car ride home was spent sat in silence.

I told my partner who spoke to them and assured me it wouldn’t happen again.

Fast forward to a few months later, today I had arranged to meet some close family friends in town. We were to leave early in the morning so it tied in with the baby’s feed and nap, and my step daughters were also keen to go shopping before we met the family friends. I already felt a little anxious organising all of this because of what had happened last time. My partner has a hobby on a Saturday, and before he left this morning, he spoke to both of them about what had happened last time and reminded them of behaviour expectations. About ten minutes after he left, an argument started over a jacket that they both wanted to wear. It got progressively louder and worse, and we were at the point of needing to go. They then asked me what I thought, and I said that the one who was already wearing the jacket should wear it and we could always have a look for a similar one in town for the other girl. At that point, my step daughter who I hadn’t sided with, began to rant about how unfair it was, that she had nothing to wear, we’d ruined her outfit, and finished off by saying that her sister and I were both ‘thick’.

At this point I rang my partner and told him he needs to come back from his hobby and accompany his children. I would have just cancelled the day altogether but the family friend had already spent money on her travel arrangements. My partner went mad at me on the phone, saying he should be able to leave them alone with me and I need to be better at disciplining them. He also accused me of taking away his down time and reminding him of an ex who also used to phone him about family drama, and that he felt embarrassed in front of his friends as he had to cancel his hobby that day. I told him that it’s not my job to discipline them, and had I tried that in the past, and it resulted in a ruined day out and atmosphere. I am only trying to do something nice by organising these days out. I wasn’t prepared to do that again. He carried on having a go at me, and I’ll be honest by the end of the call I ended up very upset. He did come back from his hobby, but he has been in a foul mood all day. We haven’t really spoken at all.

My step daughter has apologised to me and we have sorted it out.

I am very upset with my partner, but he insists I just need to change my relationship with them and be bolder in confronting and disciplining their behaviour. I don’t feel that it’s my job to do so, I shouldn’t have to navigate these situations alone and I’ve come in when the children are already older and have established parents, rules, discipline etc.

Who is being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
Janetime · 24/02/2024 13:46

How old exactly are you op? There is a difference between 21 and 29.

and if you met the father when they were over 12, then you’ve known this guy a max of 2 years and already have a child. So it’s a new relationship. And if you cannot take these children out and be the adult. Then you need to stop going out with them, they are not adults. You are the adult.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 28/02/2024 18:42

LoopyHarry · 10/02/2024 21:29

I would have cancelled the day / gone alone with baby, but there was already arrangements with a family friend who was bringing her own teenagers (they are all friends), she’d also spent time and energy on paying for travelling and booking a large table for lunch. In the moment it didn’t seem right to cancel on her or let her down regarding the plans.

I know you're probably long gone OP but I read back your posts, and this highlights your immaturity/inexperience with teenagers. It's ok though. This is all new to you and you will be the one offering advice in a few years .

You speak of "already arrangements" and the friend had paid for travelling and booked a large table etc

Your stepdaughters, or 1 of them, was being a brat. But you allowed yourself to be influenced by what someone else would think. Your friend was travelling to see you and your baby. The teens believe it or not were an optional extra. Yes, your friend was also bringing her teens, but they wouldn't have been devastated and at a loss for something to do if the girls weren't there for whatever reason. Their heads were probably stuck in their phones for the most part anyway. Put it this way, if you didn't have 2 stepdaughters does that mean you'd never see this friend or her children? The meeting was not dependent on them being there.

In the circumstances I would have told 1 or both to stay home. That I had no interest of playing referee to them and I was going out to enjoy my stress free day with my friend without needing to manage their behaviour.

Did you have a nice day? Were you relaxed and at ease and fully engaged with your friend? Or were you nervous, on edge, upset by your partner's reaction?

I would be VERY slow to organise anything with these two girls again. Access is supposed to be time spent with their father. Let him organise days out, or bring them along to his hobby. Yes, you are in a relationship with a man with two children. But that doesn't mean you have to slot into role of main caregiver in your house. Just because you're the woman? He seems to have a habit of expecting that. Don't lose who you are in an effort to be seen to be affable and easygoing. You're kindness and good nature will be abused. He doesn't appreciate how much you do for him. He made that clear. I'd be slow to offer again. Yes, his children are both your responsibility when they are with you. But he should be the main carer. You're just the support act.

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