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Ex BIL messaging me

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thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 14:49

NC for this.

Long story short, my sister and my ex BIL divorced around 6 years ago. All water under the bridge now, they don't have contact anymore, no kids together so a relatively straightforward separation. It was hard at the time as BIL had been a part of the family for a lot of years and I regarded him as more of a brother to be honest, so the separation was hard for the rest of the family but it was the right decision for my sister and we obviously stood by her as her family. I'm still friends with BIL on social media but no longer close, and in all honesty we have very little contact. I messaged him after his child was born to a new woman a couple years ago to congratulate him, and he replied thank you etc, but otherwise we don't generally speak.

Today I received a message from him out of the blue asking how I was. I replied that I was fine and asked about him etc, we had a pleasant exchange about our respective kids etc. All fine and pleasant. He then asked me if I knew why my sister was still using "his name", and that he'd discovered this recently and it bothered him. I said I didn't know why she had made this decision, and that it's not really anything to do with me, but I assumed it was because it was less hassle to keep her married name for practical reasons (my sister is a very pragmatic person). I explained this was likely the reason and he continued to state that this was "weird" and "wrong" and could I "suggest" to her that she should revert back to her maiden name. I said this wasn't my place and legally it's her name, and asked why it was a concern to him so many years down the line? He said that I wouldn't understand because I "hadn't been through it", but that this surname was "a part of him" and he didn't need the "constant reminder". Again, I asked how on earth he's being constantly reminded when he literally has no contact with my sister anymore? He couldn't answer this, just said "it's not her identity anymore, it's MY surname". I was going round in circles explaining to him that it was also in fact her legal surname to use as she wished and there was little he could do about that. He then stated that "there is only going to be one Mrs X soon and it's not her". I pointed out that there are many, many Mrs X's in the world and he didn't own the rights to that particular surname. I suggested he just focused on his new relationship/ wife to be and family and move on from what my sister chooses to do / not do. He then became defensive stating that "I don't care about her or what she does but I don't think this is right". I had to end the discussion as we were just going round in unhelpful circles and I was fed up of repeating myself.

I then spoke to my sister and she said he'd also been in touch with her recently out of the blue saying similar things, demanding to know why she wasn't changing her name. She said she told him she'd made a decision to keep the name she was known by in professional circles and just for ease. He was apparently unpleasant towards her so she ended up blocking him, hence he's now badgering her family members.

AIBU that this is just a ridiculous thing to for him to get wound up about? Why now, 6 years down the line is my sister's name suddenly an issue just because he's remarrying?! He surely cannot expect my sister to change her name just because he finds it "weird" and thinks its "not her identity"?! And also why is he bothering me with this?! I assume this has only become an issue because he's getting married again, but why should it matter? For context the surname is a very common one - think Smith / Jones - and so there'll be literally thousands of women with this name across the world and yet his new wife needs to be "the only one"?!

Aside from all of this, what has any of it got to to with me?! I wasn't even married to the guy!

The whole thing has just annoyed and baffled me and just wanted some outside perspectives! Thank you.

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Noideawwhatsoccuring · 07/02/2024 20:49

Pssspsss · 07/02/2024 20:45

It’s not that you don’t get it. It’s that you aren’t a jealous fruit loop and you’ve got a sensible pragmatic head on your shoulders.

Honestly, he’s either getting his head pecked from his wife to be or she’s messaging off his account.

i like a previous posters suggestion of all changing your names on socials to his 😂😂😂 but I’m a dick like that

I love this idea. 😂😂😂

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 07/02/2024 20:51

He is nuts.
Block him..

pimplebum · 07/02/2024 20:53

Are you absolutely certain it was him and not soon to be wife ?

Containerhome · 07/02/2024 20:54

Also, this is one of the reasons I didn't change my name to my husbands when I married. If something to where happen I don't want to have his name on all my important docs etc and then revert back to my maiden name and have the hassle of explaining names etc forever more. Not that I think we are going to split up..but you know what I mean.

Although it irks people when I say I'm married but I'm still Ms X. No one seems to be able to wrap their heads around it. But that's my name for the last 32 years. I'm not changing everything for a name.

Poppalina37 · 07/02/2024 20:56

Oh gosh isn't it funny how people react x I've kept my married name... and even gave it to my newborn baby as it's our family name despite my ex husband not being her father. He was absolutely fine with it.

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 21:04

Containerhome · 07/02/2024 20:48

It's not his name as not one person owns a name, and you can legally change your name to whatever you like.

Is it a common name too OP? Like Smith or something 🤣

Yes, it's a common name. Think Smith, Jones, etc. That's what makes the possessiveness funnier 😆

I could maybe understand a little more if it was something unique or exotic, but it's very common. His fiancée will likely be sharing this name with several thousand other women 😬 God what happens when she finds that out? 😱

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thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 21:06

i like a previous posters suggestion of all changing your names on socials to his 😂😂😂 but I’m a dick like that

I'm tempted. I'm still friends with him on Facebook so I might just go for a more subtle hyphenated name change at first, see if he notices 😂😂😂

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Westsussex · 07/02/2024 21:07

I do think its really strange she's kept the name after divorce....but it's totally nothing to do with you so just block him x

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 21:07

pimplebum · 07/02/2024 20:53

Are you absolutely certain it was him and not soon to be wife ?

Well obviously you can never be 100.% certain who's behind a message but in all honestly it reads very much like his messaging style if I'm honest. So I'm 90% sure it's him.

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SheSaidHummingbird · 07/02/2024 21:14

@thisisuttermadness It's your sister's surname as much as it is his. I hope you pointed out that he is welcome to change his surname, and the new wife takes that in marriage. Suggest Bananahammock.

Crumblespiesetc · 07/02/2024 21:28

YANBU. I think I would block him to be honest!

SpudleyLass · 07/02/2024 21:32

My married name is a very common name along the same lines as Smith and Jones too - perhaps it's the same name?

I put it to my husband how he'd feel if I chose to keep it and if it'd bother him and he looked at me as if I have two heads!

I would just block the BIL and if I knew her identity, his new missus too. That harassment isnt ok.

InSpainTheRain · 07/02/2024 21:44

I'd be withdrawing from that whole discussion and blocking him. It's nothing to do with you and he's likely to engage in long arguments/discussions by the sound of it. He probably doesn't care but his new wife to be is probably giving him grief about it.

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 21:49

SheSaidHummingbird · 07/02/2024 21:14

@thisisuttermadness It's your sister's surname as much as it is his. I hope you pointed out that he is welcome to change his surname, and the new wife takes that in marriage. Suggest Bananahammock.

😂

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SeatonCarew · 07/02/2024 21:52

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:16

Yep, I could change MY name to Mrs X tomorrow if I wanted to and there'd be nowt he could do about it!

I think your entire family should do this in a movement of mass solidarity.

Farwell · 07/02/2024 22:07

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:29

We've given our other sister a heads up that she's probably up next to be quizzed since he's got nowhere with my sister or I... She's ready with her finger over the block button 😂

Her first reply back to him has to just be 'no, not going to tell her to change HER name. Bye' and then block.

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 22:10

@SeatonCarew I will put this idea to them 😂

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SleepingBeautySnores · 07/02/2024 22:17

Does this guy forget, assuming that his parents were married, that his own mother bears the same name as his future wife, or is she supposed to revert to her maiden name just to suit his ridiculous fiancee?

SeatonCarew · 07/02/2024 22:18

On one level it's quite disrespectful, they are trying to rewrite history and obliterate the past. If he thought enough of her to marry her in the past, he doesn't get to do that, and even less so at the whim of Mrs X to be 2.0.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 07/02/2024 22:20

SleepingBeautySnores · 07/02/2024 22:17

Does this guy forget, assuming that his parents were married, that his own mother bears the same name as his future wife, or is she supposed to revert to her maiden name just to suit his ridiculous fiancee?

The mother is still part of that family...

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 22:26

SeatonCarew · 07/02/2024 22:18

On one level it's quite disrespectful, they are trying to rewrite history and obliterate the past. If he thought enough of her to marry her in the past, he doesn't get to do that, and even less so at the whim of Mrs X to be 2.0.

Entirely agree.

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Hatty65 · 07/02/2024 22:26

When ex DH and I divorced we had DC and I kept his name because it was easier to remain Mrs EX, same name as kids, rather than reverting to Ms Maidenname.

I kept it for 15 years whilst they all went through school, and then eventually remarried and changed it. Ex did once ask me why I'd kept it and I replied 'to annoy you' because I couldn't be bothered and we had a fairly acrimonious divorce.

I have now been married for more than a decade to DH2 but my mortgage is still in Mrs EX name, as that's what I was when I bought the house. I did speak to them about changing my name on the annual letters they send to me with my mortgage statement and told them I'd remarried and changed my name. They said they needed my marriage certificate and a £150 admin fee to do this, so I told them to crack on and call me what they liked. I didn't care - so I'm still Mrs Ex to the mortgage company. At some point I'll probably fork out the money and change it, simply so my deeds have the correct name on it. For now, it's not bothering me.

AGoingConcern · 07/02/2024 22:27

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 07/02/2024 22:20

The mother is still part of that family...

Who cares? We don't get exclusive rights to our names like it's a bloody trademark and sharing surnames doesn't mean people are family members. OP has said it's a common surname - there will be tens of thousands of women with that surname.

So ridiculous.

Pssspsss · 07/02/2024 22:44

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 21:06

i like a previous posters suggestion of all changing your names on socials to his 😂😂😂 but I’m a dick like that

I'm tempted. I'm still friends with him on Facebook so I might just go for a more subtle hyphenated name change at first, see if he notices 😂😂😂

You could go full on offensive arsehole and tell him if he’s THAT bothered why doesn’t he change his name to his wife’s to be and then he’ll see how much hassle it is and what an unreasonable prick he’s being.

CoffeeatIKEA · 08/02/2024 06:23

I can’t believe people are ignoring the professional identity part.
If you get married fairly early on in adulthood and then you really build up your career in your married name, then keeping it can be extremely important. There are many mày professions where this is the case. Anyone who’s every published anything. Anyone who’s ever written a Master’s Thesis or PhD. Anyone with their own business where their name is part of the business identity. Anyone looking to climb the corporate ladder who needs their impressive CV to all match up. Basically anyone where either visibility to the public and reputation is important, is where you need to apply for jobs/grants/clients regularly and you need them to be able to piece together your career easily.