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Grandparents pleasing themselves

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WanderingScotty · 07/02/2024 00:01

My MIL and FIL look after DS once a week and occasionally at the weekend and have done since he was 1 (now 4.5). (They used to look after him twice a week but we already reduced this because of this issue).

MIL and FIL are fantastic with DS in many ways - he loves spending time with them and they love having him. He’s very lucky to have them.

We have always had some “ground rules” for when they look after him - e.g watch sugar intake, limit screen time etc. It’s not strict, essentially everything in moderation and we just ask them to keep us informed so we can adapt as needed.

MIL and FIL would admit themselves they are not the healthiest of eaters and have no desire to change this. This has caused confusion in the past where they’ve given DS something they think is healthy but we wouldn’t think is (e.g ultra processed, low calorie). FIL also doesn’t take well to being told what to do and can sometimes be a bully (which I admit gets my back up and makes it hard for me to back down). MIL is very unconfrontational and will go along with anything even if she disagrees to avoid an argument (but will make subtle comments so we know if she doesn’t agree).

FIL wants free rein to do what he wishes with DS when they look after him. He wants to spoil DS as that’s “his right as a grandparent”. Mainly this is give him sweets, chocolate, ice cream etc, buy him any toy DS wants etc. Whilst we understand this to a degree FIL looks after DS too often to spoil him as much as he wants to. My mum also looks after DS and it’s not fair on her if she follows what we ask when she too would like to spoil him more. More importantly, this isn’t fair on DS as he gets confused or upset when there isn’t a consistent approach and takes sugar crashes after eating too much sugar.

DS is getting older and is able to understand and verbalise more. This afternoon, he came home and told us he had 3 chocolate treats which they hadn’t told us about. We asked them and they denied this. DS insisted he was telling the truth so we questioned them more.

FIL got defensive asking if we’d been quizzing DS after they’d left - we did but only after DS initially told us. This has led to a heated discussion tonight as FIL says he should be able to do what he wants, he’s raised 2 boys who turned out fine, DS is only with them one day, we’re imagining the sugar crashes etc. He also thinks we should trust them and not question them (despite saying he doesn’t want to go along with what we’re asking).

We have outlined the reasons we’re asking them to follow our rules. Ultimately he’s our son but we have them there because it’s what we think is best for him. MIL is agreeable but FIL is grudgingly backing down. It’ll likely raise its head again in a few months as this seems to be the way it goes.

AIBU for expecting them to follow our wishes or am I getting too bothered about it?

OP posts:
Catherhino · 08/02/2024 18:00

I thought your post title said “grandparents pleasuring themselves”!! I was very pleased when I realised 🤣
Oh, and yes you are being totally unreasonable, sorry.

EmeraldA129 · 08/02/2024 18:09

Ktime · 07/02/2024 00:09

YABU I couldn't get worked up about this.

It’s not strict, essentially everything in moderation and we just ask them to keep us informed so we can adapt as needed.

This sounds very OTT, I can see why you get their backs up.

Agree with this

Middleagedspreadisreal · 08/02/2024 18:13

Chill out.
Do they love him?
Do they beat him, or just give him treats? One day a week?
Just because your own Mum doesn't 'spoil' him with toys, is that any reason to resent anyone who does?
Don't give them rules unless he's in danger. He shouldn't be quizzed by you as to what he's been doing/eating at his grands. You're going to make him nervous and wary of you.
Your house, your rules.
Their house, their rules.
If he's safe and loved, that's all you need to know.
Chill out.

MrsScarecrow · 08/02/2024 18:18

It's one day a week. We have 4 grandchildren once a week, have given them exactly what their parents give them and they refuse to eat, We are down to 6-10 meals they will eat most of them not exactly heathly. It's that or arguments and upset. Yes it's almost blackmail but once it week wont kill them eg A biscuit instead of yoghurt.

Lollipop81 · 08/02/2024 18:21

This 💯

Lollipop81 · 08/02/2024 18:26

I think you are being unfair I would give anything to have grandparents who could help out so much.
also, as your son is the same age as mine he will be starting school in September anyway, can you suck it up until then?

Mere1 · 08/02/2024 18:33

We are grandparents who followed similar parental ideals to your rules. Our daughters have had second children-they now break all their rules now!
Pick your battles. These petty things don’t matter.

PiIIock · 08/02/2024 18:33

These replies are absolutely mad.

One or two people start with Yabu and digging into op and suddenly everyone else opinion is swayed

Fucking hell, no, op is not happy about them feeding her child garbage that will harm his teeth. So she's asked them to moderate it.

No, you don't have to be grateful to grandparents for seeing their own grandchild once a week. Hell is wrong with this country where that requires you to put up and shut up. Just seeing your own grandkid, that's tragic.

If Op did 'look after her own child' and didn't let them have him, it's be a whole other issue, wouldn't it?Hmm

AnnieSnap · 08/02/2024 18:36

If you dislike these minor things so much, maybe pay for your childcare!

Xmasdaft2023 · 08/02/2024 18:36

Unreasonable!
GP here used to feed 2 of ours Lucozade & haribos on a Sunday morning…that’s a sugar crash but you know what they were kind enough to have them so we shut up and put up. Of course it was mentioned and they stopped the Lucozade eventually.
went on to have 2 more children &
1 was cared for 1 day a week, if I told you the dramas that occurred you’d be horrified and definitely not send them back but I’m soooo grateful they did that for us. 1 GP is no longer with us and the 1 that’s alive has an amazing bond with all 4! Brings sweets once a week on a visit and texts near daily to the now teen he cared for 1 day a week (1 is away for work and he speaks to them every week, 1 he sees weekly, and the 2 still at home he sees and spks to us a lot) says it all - they’re cared for! Sweets or not, drama or not :)

Bladwdoda · 08/02/2024 18:40

PiIIock · 08/02/2024 18:33

These replies are absolutely mad.

One or two people start with Yabu and digging into op and suddenly everyone else opinion is swayed

Fucking hell, no, op is not happy about them feeding her child garbage that will harm his teeth. So she's asked them to moderate it.

No, you don't have to be grateful to grandparents for seeing their own grandchild once a week. Hell is wrong with this country where that requires you to put up and shut up. Just seeing your own grandkid, that's tragic.

If Op did 'look after her own child' and didn't let them have him, it's be a whole other issue, wouldn't it?Hmm

Totally agree.
The unreasonable person is the one giving a small child 4 chocolate bars, other sugary snacks and not feeding them a proper meal when they look after them. That’s clearly not ok. I honestly don’t understand those that think it is ok. it’s pathetic and makes them seem incapable of sensibly looking after a child. Who doesn’t feed a child a proper meal when they have them for a day, who would give a 4 year old 4 chocolates and then more sugary snacks in one day???

It is possible to be a present and fun grandparent, who treats their grandchild whilst also being a sensible capable carer.

Heyhoitsme · 08/02/2024 18:45

You are being too controlling. One day a week is fine for a bit of spoiling. You can't dictate how they feed him. He is loved by them, appreciate that.

payens · 08/02/2024 18:46

You expect free childcare but are micromanaging with extreme statements like 'sugar crashing' . Get a grip or pay for childcare.
Your child is more at risk from your stressing than the grandparents

phoenixrosehere · 08/02/2024 18:53

AnnieSnap · 08/02/2024 18:36

If you dislike these minor things so much, maybe pay for your childcare!

She already does and pays the grandparents too.

Is it really that hard to read more than the first post?

Daydreamer123 · 08/02/2024 18:54

That choice of title though.... 👀

AnnieSnap · 08/02/2024 18:58

phoenixrosehere · 08/02/2024 18:53

She already does and pays the grandparents too.

Is it really that hard to read more than the first post?

I did, just not 26 pages. The OP smacks if the all too often situation where GPs are taken for granted.

Fancyabikky · 08/02/2024 19:01

Be grateful that you have a network to look after your son. Its not like they have him 7xs a week. Its once or twice.

i live 45minutes away frommy parents and since my daughter was a baby (now 11) they insist on sending her with a snack pack for the journey….this consists of a multi-pack od crisps a family sized slab of chocolate a 3/6 pack of juice water and an apple from their tree for healthier options 😂😂
my daughter loves them i side eye them and keep it moving. My child knows as soon as she’s through my car doors its my rules. Pick your battles imo.

Julimia · 08/02/2024 19:01

There s a saying ' what goes on a grandmas stays at grandmas' and i think you would be well advised to take heed rather than fine tooth combing every litlle bit of action. Children quickly learn whats what in every different situation they find t themselves in. They are not spoiling him and are not working in oppostion to your mum either. Different relationships with different people. You could equally be driving them mad too. Back off and let everyone enjoy their own lovely relationships.

DGPP · 08/02/2024 19:04

You are being ridiculous and incredibly hard work. Let them get on with being grandparents. Millions of people would kill for your set up with loving grandparents

BooBooDoodle · 08/02/2024 19:06

We have this issue with all grandparents. My parents used to drop them both off after they’d demolished hot chocolates and crap. They ended up high as kites, misbehaved and ultimately got told off by us, they were setting them up to fail basically and it wasn’t fair. They soon learned to follow our rules when they had a house party and snook them treats throughout the day. They ran riot after ignoring our rules and my mum hated them running amok in her house and being loud. They soon got the message.
MIL doesn’t spend much time with our boys and favours our nephews so she will do a weekly bag of crap drop which makes her believe she’s making an effort, kids obviously loved the stuff she brought. She only got the message when my DH made her watch him throw it in the bin. Full of sweets, crisps, chocolate, large bags of Harribos, cream cakes etc. Our eldest son had given up playing football and due to puberty was putting on weight. We were trying to control his diet at the time but she continued to ignore our wishes. The kids only bothered with her because of the bag she brought round and my eldest has mentioned her not spending proper time with him like she does with his cousins.
We aren’t awful people, we do like to indulge but it’s having that balance and having our wishes respected.

Thegreatestdancer · 08/02/2024 19:08

It will self regulate, especially if you handle your opinions delicately- it sounds as if you and FIL are a bit confrontational with each other. Remember treats are part of the fun of grandparents and your DS will remember. My grown up children still talk about my mum having them - one mentioned how brilliant it was they got cocoa pops and ice cream for breakfast after a night at grandmas at the ‘stand up and say something’ bit of her funeral and how brilliantly naughty they thought it was!

SoSBeingAMumIsHard · 08/02/2024 19:18

Just let him enjoy his time with them. And let them love on him.
As long as he is safe that's all that matters.

My parents have damentia so my DS cant have any close relationship with them.

Life is short and full of surprises

JessicaLee1 · 08/02/2024 19:26

You are not just being unreasonable, you are being completely outrageous and ruining the grandparents time of actually being grandparents. Questioning over some chocolate bars, really? Do you have any idea how lucky you are to have two sets of grandparents willing and able to help you with child care? Be nice to your father in law, he won't be here forever. You need to enjoy time because wasting time energy and arguing over some treats causes friction for your husband, his parents and your child and ultimately ruins relationships and for what's? It's nice for your child to look forward to some treats at his grand parents house. You're being awful.

YeahIsaidit · 08/02/2024 19:58

BooBooDoodle · 08/02/2024 19:06

We have this issue with all grandparents. My parents used to drop them both off after they’d demolished hot chocolates and crap. They ended up high as kites, misbehaved and ultimately got told off by us, they were setting them up to fail basically and it wasn’t fair. They soon learned to follow our rules when they had a house party and snook them treats throughout the day. They ran riot after ignoring our rules and my mum hated them running amok in her house and being loud. They soon got the message.
MIL doesn’t spend much time with our boys and favours our nephews so she will do a weekly bag of crap drop which makes her believe she’s making an effort, kids obviously loved the stuff she brought. She only got the message when my DH made her watch him throw it in the bin. Full of sweets, crisps, chocolate, large bags of Harribos, cream cakes etc. Our eldest son had given up playing football and due to puberty was putting on weight. We were trying to control his diet at the time but she continued to ignore our wishes. The kids only bothered with her because of the bag she brought round and my eldest has mentioned her not spending proper time with him like she does with his cousins.
We aren’t awful people, we do like to indulge but it’s having that balance and having our wishes respected.

Throwing the stuff away in front of her was incredibly rude of you. Why couldn't you have graciously said thank you and then put it away for it to be eaten gradually instead?

Gagaandgag · 08/02/2024 20:01

PiIIock · 08/02/2024 18:33

These replies are absolutely mad.

One or two people start with Yabu and digging into op and suddenly everyone else opinion is swayed

Fucking hell, no, op is not happy about them feeding her child garbage that will harm his teeth. So she's asked them to moderate it.

No, you don't have to be grateful to grandparents for seeing their own grandchild once a week. Hell is wrong with this country where that requires you to put up and shut up. Just seeing your own grandkid, that's tragic.

If Op did 'look after her own child' and didn't let them have him, it's be a whole other issue, wouldn't it?Hmm

Totally agree!! If someone else was taking care of her children they’d respect their boundaries. The OP is not being unreasonable. I’m on your side op