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To answer my friend honestly about her partner

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Whatdoyouthink65 · 05/02/2024 09:11

Context: My best friend from school and I have fairly infrequent contact now, but are both still available when one or other needs something ( like an opinion or a venting row about something). We don’t see each other much for geographical, familial commitment and conflicting work schedules. My friend has one child from a previous relationship which ended with acrimonious divorce and complex nasty custody battle.
When she met that person I did not like him, told her so nicely ( when she asked for my honest opinion- not unsolicited) and it changed our relationship for a long time. When she got divorced she actually confessed that my concerns about him had been entirely valid and she wished she had listened. I never hold this against her because we’ve all been guilty of being ‘rose tinted’ about partners at some point. After the divorce our relationship returned to how its was pre mariage.

She has a new partner of approximately one year. They appear very happy together and have moved in together- she plans to have another child ( his first bio) soon. He has fully accepted her daughter and has stepped into the ‘ dad’ role fully.

We arranged for us to all meet up recently and she wanted my honest opinion about him. I’m really torn about being honest with her again and potentially ruining our relationship or not acting on my gut and telling her a blasé “ yea he’s nice” answer.

I don’t have issues with everyone at all; in fact I can think of very few other people I don’t like. On the surface there is nothing to dislike about him. He’s polite and as above seemingly makes her feel good/ happy. I just didn’t warm to him initially and always trust my gut , but gave him benefit of doubt ( maybes he’s nervous etc).

However, my toddler took herself to the toilet in our house, then shouted for me when she needed her bum wiping ( as is normal for ourhouse) he got up at the same time as me and I assumed he was going to check on his step daughter who was playing alone in our house at that point. He wasn’t; he opened the toilet door and went to wipe my toddlers bum. Thankfully I was only a step behind him, slid myself between him and her and closed the door, saying that I would do it. My toddler looked terrified at someone she just met an hour earlier being in the bathroom with her ( she’s fairly shy and had barely spoken to him).
it made me REALLY uncomfortable, but I tried to think maybe he was just trying to be helpful although it couldn’t shake being uncomfortable.

later the same day me, my partner, my friend and the new boyfriend went for dinner with their 1 child, our toddler and our 8m old. During dinner our toddler asked her dad to pass some crayons, and the boyfriend seemingly misheard and said “ oh you need the toilet , I’ll take you, come on”. Before I even had chance to interject my partner had immediately said no and passed her the crayons she had actually asked for.

the boyfriend also undermined us several times ( for health reasons we don’t allow our toddler commercial desserts because we can’t measure the sugar in them) their daughter was having a dessert and we had said our toddler could have fruit ( she’s normally very happy with this), she had a bit of envy and asked why she couldn’t have chocolate brownies too and I explained it, she accepted it and then immediately after, the boyfriend said “ don’t listen to mummy uncle will buy you a brownie”. Again we stopped this, but there was a few incidents throughout the day of this nature.

I have real concerns as to his safety around small girls although I have nothing more than my opinion/ feelings to present to my friend.

my friend has text asking “ what do you think?”
would it be unreasonable based on the described incident above to answer her honestly saying that I have some concerns or should I give a safe answer of “ yeah he seems nice”.

OP posts:
Catsmere · 06/02/2024 20:56

Your husband had it right, OP, she's dating a nonce. You can't keep him away from her daughter unless she cooperates, only make sure he's never near yours again.

Thelnebriati · 06/02/2024 22:52

OP the more you say about your friend the more concerning her behaviour is.

Nantescalling · 07/02/2024 12:55

You definitely did the right thing and one day in the future, she'll get in touch to thank you:

LightsCameraBloodyDoSomething · 07/02/2024 13:16

Given you've been blocked at cut off, OP, I'd now go down the reporting route. Nothing to be gained from not, nothing to lose by doing so. You never know, it might even scare him off.

LegallyBrunette01 · 07/02/2024 13:23

Agree with @LightsCameraBloodyDoSomething I would report - and I typically don't get involved in other people's lives, I think in this instance better safe than sorry.

RokaandRoll · 07/02/2024 15:25

This thread is really playing on my mind and is so sad. I definitely agree, you should report. Please don't just write off your friend's daughter - she desperately needs someone to try to help protect her if her mum won't.

MakeEconomyScream · 07/02/2024 17:19

again - I think you need to report. Although you’ve done a great thing by being straight with her mum, you haven’t done everything by you can do. Get his surname and raise it with safeguarding teams. This girl will be in your life forever; you do not want to look at her and feel you didn’t do everything you could for her.

Americano75 · 07/02/2024 17:49

You absolutely did the right thing, thank God you did!

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 08/02/2024 07:39

LightsCameraBloodyDoSomething · 07/02/2024 13:16

Given you've been blocked at cut off, OP, I'd now go down the reporting route. Nothing to be gained from not, nothing to lose by doing so. You never know, it might even scare him off.

This...

Please report... As poster has pointed out... There is nothing to lose here and you may save a child from csa.

Anyone in this situation... PLEASE report... As OP said, she doesn't even know a surname... But could find it to report.

As SSD have access to all sorts of intelligence, both hard and soft. It may well be not actioned... BUT it will be recorded somewhere if someone comes along with more info about this man.

Tbis is often how prosecutions are secured. (I once worked a case where there wasn't enough hard evidence to prosecute by CPS... Just lots of very real concerns.. Until this vile perp got caught out... And all this was part of the case, over 20 year history...)

It is NOT up to any one member of the public to do an assessment before report... Let the social workers do their job!

Missgemini · 08/02/2024 08:20

What a concerning thread. Very abnormal behaviour. You have done the right thing, OP. I feel so sad for that little girl. Someone needs to help her. I do wonder if reporting might be the way forward. I’m no expert, but that girl needs help.

FrenchandSaunders · 08/02/2024 08:27

Odd behaviour and I think you need to tell your friend as her DD is vulnerable.

This reminds me of a meeting I had with a friends new boyfriend who offered to change my DDs nappy. So inappropriate.

Animatedapple · 08/02/2024 08:31

Yes, you need to talk to her where you just explain the facts of what happened. You don’t need to say anything more but present her with the facts that you have.

I would keep well away from him. And maybe consider that you are going to lose a friendship because of this.

RokaandRoll · 08/02/2024 08:37

Recent posters need to read the OP's updates on this thread - she has already confronted her friend to no avail and we are now strongly encouraging her to go down the reporting route.

CatamaranViper · 08/02/2024 14:22

Well done OP. That can't have been easy but I think you did the right thing.

I agree with reporting him if you can, but I'd possibly warn her mum maybe that you're going to do it? I worry that if the police approach him, he may blame your friend and take it out on her. At least if her mum knows she might be able to look out for signs or help as she's close by?

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