Aibu to ask your house price and council tax cost. (Disparity between areas)

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£250,000. £3263

RIP off.

I only said it was interesting.

Did you see how much it is in comparison to their house. Look at ours!

£850k Band F £3180 (2023-2024) Surrey

If anyone does get the bus for school due to being over 3 miles away then it is literally just to and from school- whereas in London it is for all journeys

House 300k
Council Tax 1700.

Around £400K and I think our council tax is about £2500 a year, band E in the NW. OP yours is so high.

None of which has anything to do with my point about democracy. Asylum seekers are government funded so equally irrelevant to your argument.

House £700k, council tax £2600. My last (much larger) house currently around £900k, council tax also £2600. Current house band F outer london, old house band D inner London.
My experience is the banding varies by borough, not type of house as it should be. Here a 2 bed flat can have the same band as a 4 bed house in my old area. The property prices reflect the difference but not council tax.

I was looking at the ONS data on this last week. Cost per house averages around 2.5k in all areas. Council tax also only gives 25% of council tax revenue.

Exactly.
@BIossomtoes You're hopelessly naïve for thinking that high taxes = better services.
Areas more in need have a lower tax take. Fewer people actually paying the full council tax. Less commerce, so less business rates.
Even the bill for 'adult social care' is higher because so many will be living off the state and not have any assets that can be taken to pay for it.
Asylum seekers just dumped into the area with very little money to support them. Gov gives a few hundred per month but that doesn't even touch the sides.
As OP said full council tax payers in a deprived area can't be expected to subsidise the rest at huge personal cost.

While corruption and mismanagement are rampant in my local council it's also true that central government has been offloading more and more onto councils while cutting their budgets. And this is the result.

Asylum seekers absolutely need somewhere to live. People are people.
Because of the low cost of homes in some areas near me we have the highest rate in the country.
Those homes will not pay council tax or have it subsidised.
Therefore less funding for the area.

I mentioned them so you could get an idea of local picture.

£500k £2,748 in the NE

Of course I’m not naive - hopelessly or otherwise. Asylum seekers are centrally funded by the government. As a pp pointed out only 25% of local authorities’ income comes from council tax and central government has a funding formula that takes levels of deprivation into account. I do agree that current levels of central funding are inadequate, hence rising council tax.

Is it based on house price or house value though?

it’s based on the house price in 1991, even if the house wasn’t built until 2024 the valuation office have a way of calculating the valuation

london boroughs are heavily populated therefore the cost of council tax can be very much lower proportionally, compared with somewhere is wales that is spares on inhabitants.

poll tax with everyone supposed to be charged the same, was a complete disaster

Most councils are receiving 40% less back from the government in council tax payments than they were 10 years ago. Yet the public are paying more and expecting the same

It’s actually worse than that.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/29/how-a-decade-of-austerity-has-squeezed-council-budgets-in-england#:~:text=Between%202010%2D11%20and%202022%2D23%2C%20net%20spending%20per,pencilled%20in%20for%20this%20year.

OK, so what exactly is your point then? Only 25% of revenue coming from council tax just disproves it even further.
There is no democratic choice between shitty or decent services, in direct proportion to the amount of council tax paid. The shiteness of the service depends on the amount of central funding which voters can't control.
Also, Councils can receive lots of funding and grants for different purposes but it's all very strictly controlled. So you can get things like no bin collections but a new archway in the town centre (???).

£250k - Band B - £1600 Herts

There is no democratic choice between shitty or decent services, in direct proportion to the amount of council tax paid. The shiteness of the service depends on the amount of central funding which voters can't control.

There is. Councils have control over the amount of council tax they raise and voters decide whether they want high or low spending. Councils also decide which budgets they choose to allocate money to. Again voters ultimately influence who’s making the decisions about spending priorities. If there’s no democratic choice there would be no point in local elections, would there?

Yes I agree

Adding the council tax band to the information would make it more relevant. The band D valuation in some places is the same as the band H in others.

The linked property in Peckham is band D, at £900k. In my area, that'd easily be well into the top band H.

The comparison also is only helpful if you put which band you are in

400/2500

£175,000. £1750 approximately. Band B Cheshire East.

Approximately because the council could go onto special measures. Likely the full rise not yet determined.

God some houses are worth twice as much as mine and we pay the same. I know it depends on your area but still.