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To think best friend's comments about her job vs my kids are rude?

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pregnantbestie · 01/02/2024 21:31

One of my closest friends is trying to compete with me non-stop and humble brag with any excuse. We’ve been best friends since primary school (now 28) and I don’t want to lose her as a friend but I’m struggling with the constant attempts to compete. How do I address it without sounding btchy?

We did quite similar degrees and started out having similar careers (her in finance, me in law) but I realised that the corporate world and working 12hr days wasn’t for me, my boyfriend proposed around the same time and we decided to start a family with me being a SAHM. I love it, it’s the happiest I’ve been. No plans of going back to work, at least not until my youngest is close to secondary school. Financially we’re fine: we’re lucky enough to have both sets of parents helping out with costs like house deposit, nursery furniture etc and my husband earns just over 100K.

Meanwhile my friend loves the high paced environment, gets a buzz from the promotions and high pay, takes pride in her career in a male dominated field. I’m super happy for her, very proud of her and have always supported her. She is, however, someone who relies heavily on external validation ie she needs friends and family to say her boyfriend is lovely, how well she’s doing in her career, how nice the things she buys are, and if she doesn’t get that she will outright ask “do you think my boyfriend is nice?” “Do you think 90K at our age is a good salary?” etc. Since I’ve quit my job / got married / had a baby she’s made little comments like “so you’re not bored at home?” or if talking about our day “I’d shoot myself having to go to the playground every day”. I just saw those as passing comments, something not intended with malice, just her pointing out she’s got different preferences. Recently I told her I’m pregnant (first person aside from my mum and husband to know!) shortly after she’d received a promotion she was really after and suddenly the comments intensified: her response was “oh congrats, just when you thought your nappy years are nearly over you’re back in them hahahaha!” or “do you think you’d want to go back to work if you earned 90K though, instead of having a second?” or “does it scare you that you won’t be totally free from kids till your late 40s?” (ie when they move out) or “does it ever make you think what a nice life you’d have if you didn’t have to look after and buy things for kids?” or [shows a watch she bought] “do you wish you’d never had kids, kept earning and now you’d be buying yourself little treats here and there?” or “i think men find it sexy when you’re all dressed up in a dress and heels, in a high paying job, rather than in a dressing gown making purees”. All said in the last 5 days that she’s known about pregnancy (yes we chat a lot).

AIBU to think these comments are off? Or am I just being a hormonal pregnant lady?

OP posts:
SweetBirdsong · 01/02/2024 22:52

She is jealous and insecure and bitter.

ElizabethCage · 01/02/2024 22:56

Say ‘no need to sound so bitter, I’m sure you’ll have a husband and kids too one day!’
Or when she comments about how boring it must be ‘Oh no it’s BRILLIANT, I get to relax, chill out, concentrate on me you know! You must find it so stressful working so much, you look tired are you overdoing it?’
’Im so happy Im a young mum and have the energy to run around after them!’
‘ That’s a lovely item you’ve bought, nothing can buy family and love though!’

sorry but im a petty bitch

MissTrip82 · 01/02/2024 22:58

Tbh you don’t sound like you like her that much the way you describe her.

regardless, it’s incredible to me that anyone would step away from such a long friendship without even having a conversation. If she’s not worth that to you then maybe it is time to step away.

Guavafish1 · 01/02/2024 22:58

I would tell her, you find the comments offensive.

2chocolateoranges · 01/02/2024 23:01

I had a friend like that once. We had been friends for years. I met dh quite young got married had kids, worked part time, eg 15 hrs a week whereas she had a few relationships a couple of marriages , worked full time, no kids but she always seemed to make stupid comments to texts etc .

eg if she messaged and asked me how we were and I mentioned the kids being unwell she’d say oh well back to bed for you , you’ve got nothing else to do or oh yeah you’re a lady of leisure while the rest of us work full time.

just stupid niggly comments which showed her up as being jealous and insecure.

we are no longer friends,

daliesque · 01/02/2024 23:02

She's not sad, she's not bitter, she's not jealous - all insults we who decide not to have children get frequently.

She's made different decisions to you and if you don't like her questions to understand your life, then remove yourself from the friendship

TheSlantedOwl · 01/02/2024 23:03

That’s crap, daliesque. Her choices are great ones and valuable in their own right but the way she’s treating the OP drips with the toxic desire to undermine her.

revengeparty · 01/02/2024 23:07

I don’t necessarily think she’s bitter or jealous. It probably goes back to the fact she needs constant validation and reassurance for everything in her own life.

She clearly can’t get her head round the fact you’ve gone a different path (despite initially doing something similar to her) and how happy and content you are doing something she wouldn’t choose.

determinedtomakethiswork · 01/02/2024 23:10

I think I would have to message her and say friend, we have been really good friends for 20 years and I love you a lot but lately all you do is criticise my decisions. I am really really happy with my life. I have plenty of choices and I have chosen this particular path and I am happy with it. When you ask me if I wish I hadn't had children it's unspeakably cruel and nasty. When you turn up and I'm newly pregnant and unwell and you criticise me for the way I look, that makes me really really upset and I don't feel that you are a true friend then. I really don't want to lose this friendship but if you talk to me like shit again then I won't have any hesitation in just ending this.

Greatscottshesgotit · 01/02/2024 23:11

If you have a 20 year friendship can you really not just say “hey, I know we are on different paths and that maybe mine isn’t the one you’d ever want, but I’m really happy with it and whilst I can take a joke about baby puke and pooey nappies, recently your jokes have strayed into being quite hurtful and snide, and I just don’t know if I’ve made you feel a certain way about something or if there is a problem in your life that’s making you say these things?”

I don’t get how you can say she’s one of the closest people in your life but you’d rather let the friendship go than to be upfront and honest about how she is making you feel.

if she doesn’t take the feedback well, then maybe the friendship will end. But maybe she’s going through some shit that is making her be such a bitch? I’d ask her first

Poppalina37 · 01/02/2024 23:11

She would probably love to have your life but doesn't realise it yet x trouble is... she probably never experienced true love.... having a baby is so intense..... the whole pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding it's truly magical. I don't think I ever got what the fascination with staying at home and being a mother was until I became one.... it's mental.... the money, the freedom, the flash cars, the handbags and promotions.... none of it is important.... my baby's little smile, her giggle its my everything. Being her mum is everything x I just didn't get it before x

YankSplaining · 01/02/2024 23:12

“i think men find it sexy when you’re all dressed up in a dress and heels, in a high paying job, rather than in a dressing gown making purees”.

Men don’t give a damn if their female partners have high-paying jobs. 😂 Seriously, every time men are surveyed about what they’d want in an ideal partner, “earns a high salary” is always somewhere near the bottom of the list of the attributes they’re given to rate. It’s not that they don’t like women with high-paying jobs, but that’s not on their lists of qualities to look for.

She’s being heinous and rude. It’s sad, because she’s been your friend for so long, but you don’t need that negativity in your life.

YankSplaining · 01/02/2024 23:17

daliesque · 01/02/2024 23:02

She's not sad, she's not bitter, she's not jealous - all insults we who decide not to have children get frequently.

She's made different decisions to you and if you don't like her questions to understand your life, then remove yourself from the friendship

Oh, “her questions to understand your life.” 🙄 “Isn’t your life just so boring and horrible? Don’t you wish your children had never been conceived?” OP’s friend doesn’t want to “understand her life,” she wants to put her down and try to make her feel inferior.

FunnysInLaJardin · 01/02/2024 23:18

if she is a good friend, you will be able to tell her to back off in the nicest way and still have a friendship. If she isn't really a friend she will get the hump and you are well rid.

I had to do this recently with one of my oldest friends and it re-set our friend ship and the respect we had for each other.

But I did say 'in the nicest possible way, you need to back right off...and here is why'

ArchetypalBusyMum · 01/02/2024 23:19

It's perfectly possible to look across at someone's very different choices and think 'i would never want that for me!' but a sensible adult should also be capable to realising that someone else might really really want that and both preferences are entirely valid.

If you have the first and second thought in your head, you can be curious in a relaxed non judgemental way. Appreciate your friend's cherished things and that can flow both ways.

Seems she only had the first thought in her head and your contentment either makes her choices feel invalidated or she cannot see any value in your yours and it's expressing her contempt for them, all this passive aggressive negative comparing is not curiosity about your different life, it's just needling and joyless.

If you've been friends for so long, it might be worth taking too get about how she's choosing to bad mouth your life, and what a shame it is you can't celebrate each others successes of different flavours.

Maybe she lacks self awareness and a honest chat will really help.
Or maybe she enjoys pulling you down cos it makes her feel better for whatever reason.

I wouldn't shut the friendship down without attempting to talk to her, but her reaction would tell me all I needed about what the next step was, which may well be sadly letting her go.

ArchetypalBusyMum · 01/02/2024 23:19

Urgh typos 🙄

DeeCeeCherry · 01/02/2024 23:21

I'd just be 'busy' and gradually fade away from a 'friend' like that. She doesn't make you feel good so why keep up the friendship? She isn't going to change. Its also clear she doesnt like you, even if she did in the past. Time to stop holding onto toxic people

Notalldogs23 · 01/02/2024 23:31

She sounds mean. I don't think she's jealous now may well be when she's older. Her comment that men find women with high heels and big jobs sexy, and implying that you'd let yourself go, was just nasty.

whiteroseredrose · 01/02/2024 23:33

Ha ha I'd shoot myself having to go into an office all day and have people wittering on about finance; oh I LOVED the nappy years, that's why I'm having another; yes, it's a nice watch but it's only stuff after all, it won't give you a hug when you're old .... etc

Delphiniumandlupins · 01/02/2024 23:46

How do you respond to her comments? Can't you just say something about how you are both lucky to be so happy with your life choices?

bastin · 01/02/2024 23:56

I see posts like this all the time

Just because you've known somebody for a long time it doesn't mean that you have to put up with shit

BlueGrey1 · 02/02/2024 00:01

These comments are definitely off, she sounds unhappy, she also seems a bit jealous but is trying to turn it around and make you jealous of her, not sure if I would have time for someone like this, she is taking her stress out on you

Is she thinking about having kids at some point?

Outliers · 02/02/2024 00:07

She deserves your pity.

DinnaeFashYersel · 02/02/2024 00:08

I do t think she is jealous it's just that
you've grown apart, have different interests and want different things out of life.

You do t want her lifestyle and she doesn't want yours. That's ok.

The friendship is probably coming to a natural end.

Frangipanyoul8r · 02/02/2024 00:10

She’s being a bitch. That doesn’t mean you have to cut her out of your life for ever. Just take a massive step back and slowly loose touch.

You might become friends again when she has children, or maybe you won’t. But no need to just end the friendship altogether. It’s very normal for friendships to fade for a while when one person has children and the other doesn’t.