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Thinking this is an over-reaction to my thoughtless comment

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Clemcy · 31/01/2024 23:29

Today at work I spent lunch with some colleagues who have children a similar age to my eldest, 16-18 sort of age. We were talking about uni/fees/tech/accomodation etc.
One colleagues wife passed away when their child was younger, he sold the house, moved away to somewhere much cheaper mortgage free etc. and put the rest of the money from the sale away for his daughter.
He was explaining he's not worried as he has enough to buy her a flat/house when she's in second year, pay her fees and keep some back for wedding/emergencies. He quite causally said "yeah there is about £800,000 waiting for her."
This is insane to me, my house is worth a quarter of that, while I appreciate the circumstances that have allowed them to accumulate that money are awful it is a large sum!!
I thoughtlessly said "oh wow lucky girl" and everyone sort of looked at me, I realised and apologised.
Since I've gotten home 3 separate people have messaged me to let me know said colleague is quite upset at my insensitive comment, and there is nothing lucky about your mum dying - I never said there was!!
I messaged him to apologise but he just replied with "no amount of money will bring her mum back, be careful what you say"

I'm now sat quite upset, I genuinely wasn't thinking, heard the amount and thought wow!
AIBU to think this is an overreaction to a thoughtless comment?

OP posts:
SurelySmartie · 01/02/2024 01:27

User373433 · 01/02/2024 00:58

I think this too.

I'd be tempted to reply something like 'Actually your DD is lucky that she has a father who loves her, chose to prioritise her future and who was financially savvy enough to enable her to have such a huge sum of money. If course it won't make up for losing her mum. If you genuinely think I am so awful as to have meant she was lucky her mother died, then I can see why you can't accept my apologies, and I'm truly sorry you feel that way.

He sounds like a drama queen tbh. Yes, it's very sad he lost his wife and his daughter lost her mother, but she didn't hear it, it wasn't recent, and it was crass of him to boast about it, even give the figure, why?! What kind of reaction did he want? It's one of those awkward silences that somebody could easily try to fill and say the wrong thing. The fact he won't accept your apology when you have gone out of your way to do it a second time is way OTT.

No don’t reply like that and make it worse. When someone has lost their partner or mum the last thing they need to hear is that they are lucky. Of course they would rather have her back than have the money. The last thing they will feel is lucky.
You’ve apologised and that’s enough. His reaction is his reaction and he’s entitled to that. Hopefully now he can move past the comment and apology.

Raincloudsonasunnyday · 01/02/2024 01:40

Well, you said it yourself: “I genuinely wasn’t thinking”. I don’t see how that exonerates you in any way.

Whether or not he’s tempered his reaction adequately isn’t for you to decide, and frankly if you’d put as much thought into the comment as you’re putting into the umbrage you’re taking right now, you wouldn’t be here.

Lesson learned.

TheSlantedOwl · 01/02/2024 01:47

Actually he was being totally crass naming the amount of money. He was showing insensitivity towards those he was speaking to, who don’t have that money to support their kids.

And yes the poor kid is deeply painfully unlucky to have lost her mum, but lucky to have a supportive father and a tonne of cash.

He and your colleagues over reacted.

coxesorangepippin · 01/02/2024 02:08

I'm on your side here,op.

They are overreacting

Of course you didnt mean that!

KimberleyClark · 01/02/2024 02:09

PriOn1 · 31/01/2024 23:52

I messaged him to apologise but he just replied with "no amount of money will bring her mum back, be careful what you say"

He sounds like an arsehole to me. I despise people who still chide you after you’ve genuinely apologized.

And his daughter is fortunate to get that amount of money, regardless of what it was that prompted her father to start saving.

He’s an arsehole for being upset his wife died and his daughter losing her mother?

you sound like an arsehole too.

Passingthethyme · 01/02/2024 02:13

I understand that you said this by mistake, but it was thoughtless and it's fair that he's not just brushed it off. I guess put yourself in his shoes. I do wonder that perhaps your apology didn't seem sincere as you seem quite blase, hence the reaction from everyone else. I'd probably go for a other genuine, heartfelt apology and say it was a stupid comment that just came out without thinking and then leave it at that

Passingthethyme · 01/02/2024 02:16

User373433 · 01/02/2024 00:58

I think this too.

I'd be tempted to reply something like 'Actually your DD is lucky that she has a father who loves her, chose to prioritise her future and who was financially savvy enough to enable her to have such a huge sum of money. If course it won't make up for losing her mum. If you genuinely think I am so awful as to have meant she was lucky her mother died, then I can see why you can't accept my apologies, and I'm truly sorry you feel that way.

He sounds like a drama queen tbh. Yes, it's very sad he lost his wife and his daughter lost her mother, but she didn't hear it, it wasn't recent, and it was crass of him to boast about it, even give the figure, why?! What kind of reaction did he want? It's one of those awkward silences that somebody could easily try to fill and say the wrong thing. The fact he won't accept your apology when you have gone out of your way to do it a second time is way OTT.

Gosh this is the worst possible reply, completely insensitive and patronising. Please don't send anything like this

FrozenGhost · 01/02/2024 02:19

I wouldn't say it's an over reaction. He's hardly going on about it - he only send one text and it was in reply to you. It was a pretty calm text just saying that yes, he did get hurt from what you said.

As for the others, again, one text each, and they probably didn't know the others had sent anything.

Muchof · 01/02/2024 02:29

Which bit is an over reaction exactly? You made a truly thoughtless, borderline green eyed monster comment and all he said was think more in future. Quite restrained really and to be honest if you sitting there upset for a few minutes stops you from making more hurtful comments then probably a good thing,

cauliflowerqueen · 01/02/2024 02:29

You've apologised, and however much the comment might have surprised or hurt him, it seems clear it wasn't meant maliciously. I wouldn't bring it up again unless someone else does, in which case I'd calmly explain that you realise it was a thoughtless comment, however you meant no harm and you've apologised, then leave it. Least said, soonest mended.

I do think it was a bit much for three of them to feel compelled to text you, even assuming they didn't know the others were texting. Quite frankly, his admonishment to be careful what you say would irk me when you've already apologised twice. People usually take a moment, then try to shrug these things off and get on with life, particularly as you'd already apologised in the moment. He's not being very gracious. I'd try to forget about it and carry on as usual. You've done all you can or should, imo.

JMSA · 01/02/2024 02:40

Of course she's lucky to have that money waiting for her.
And of course you didn't mean that she was lucky to lose her mum!!
YANBU at all. It's an overreaction on their part.

pikkumyy77 · 01/02/2024 02:49

Zfactorstar · 01/02/2024 00:46

Can men do anything right for some people? I enjoy this website but the men bashing that goes on can get out of control. He's a widower, who stepped up to the plate for his daughter and was hurt by a thoughtless comment. I'm sure he'll get over it but the person who did the hurting isn't the person who gets to decide when the apology is to be accepted. OP, I actually sympathy because we've all been there. Give him space and time. And if it comes up again apologize again.

He “stepped up to the plate for his daughter?” He didn’t do more than any parent of whatever sex is supposed to do.

RaptorTruck · 01/02/2024 02:54

I don’t think they’re over reacting. You were thoughtless about some thing that is extremely sensitive. If you can’t engage your brain during conversations about such topics, try to say nothing.

I think if you were truly sorry, you wouldn’t post it here even, trying to get people on your side. You may not have meant it how it came out but that doesn’t take away the shock and hurt it would cause to hear it, so just put yourself in your colleagues shoes.

You fucked up, you have apologised, now you should just let it go.

Justfinking · 01/02/2024 03:02

RaptorTruck · 01/02/2024 02:54

I don’t think they’re over reacting. You were thoughtless about some thing that is extremely sensitive. If you can’t engage your brain during conversations about such topics, try to say nothing.

I think if you were truly sorry, you wouldn’t post it here even, trying to get people on your side. You may not have meant it how it came out but that doesn’t take away the shock and hurt it would cause to hear it, so just put yourself in your colleagues shoes.

You fucked up, you have apologised, now you should just let it go.

I agree with this. If you were sorry you'd feel bad about it, not post on here trying to get people to justify your opinion. Pull your head in. Also he just said to think, which was right. I'm assuming you wanted him to say no worries, and it's ok?

user1473878824 · 01/02/2024 03:06

Some people have money some people don’t. There’s no excuse for being an arsehole though.

Trez1510 · 01/02/2024 03:07

If you're generally a kind, generous of spirit sort of person then the four individuals acting independently are definitely over-reacting.

If you generally react in a 'jealous' way, or have a history of making sarky/envious comments, then they are not over-reacting.

For me, I think the fact you've referenced how little your own home is worth in comparison to the young lady's imminent wealth says quite a bit really.

It's probably all down to your 'tone', and potentially your previous reactions to people mentioning things you don't have/can't afford.

Justfinking · 01/02/2024 03:10

Trez1510 · 01/02/2024 03:07

If you're generally a kind, generous of spirit sort of person then the four individuals acting independently are definitely over-reacting.

If you generally react in a 'jealous' way, or have a history of making sarky/envious comments, then they are not over-reacting.

For me, I think the fact you've referenced how little your own home is worth in comparison to the young lady's imminent wealth says quite a bit really.

It's probably all down to your 'tone', and potentially your previous reactions to people mentioning things you don't have/can't afford.

Agree with this too, if you're generally a nice person I think you would have been given more leeway. The fact four other people have said something gives you your answer

BitchImLoco · 01/02/2024 03:14

Yes he overreacted. And he was showing off about the money he’d saved when you were all talking about how worried you were. Bit of a hypocrite, and very undignified talking about you being your back and not accepting the apology.

BestBadger · 01/02/2024 03:18

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 31/01/2024 23:33

As i was reading your post i was thinking 'please don't say something about being lucky'. I don't think it was an overreaction to be upset by the comment. You know it was the wrong thing to say. Not much you can do about it now though. You've apologied and hopefully your colleague will be able to move past it.

3 people messaged though, to point out what the OP already acknowledged. Sounds more like they're milking the opportunity to have a dig at OP to me.

junebirthdaygirl · 01/02/2024 03:30

Teeheehee1579 · 31/01/2024 23:42

Yes I do think they overreacted - you obviously did not mean isn’t she lucky her mum died, you meant she’s lucky to have the money that she will have. And she is lucky to have the money. Obviously not lucky her mum died. Both can be true. You apologised and I think his response should have been far more gracious given the lack of intent to hurt and offend.

Even if l got a stab to the heart if someone said that l would leave it off as it makes everything a bit awkward now. He is being a bit crass discussing his private money business like that especially mentioning amounts. It was lovely you apologised and that should have been that.

Topseyt123 · 01/02/2024 03:35

It was a stupid, thoughtless comment from you, and one that he cannot unhear.

If course you didn't mean that she was lucky her mum died, but your mouth ran away on wheels. However, I think he was also wrong to divulge private information like the figures involved. He could have said just about everything he did without doing that, and he probably will keep quiet about it in the future because it invited your unfortunate remark.

You've apologised. You'll probably need to apologise again and show that you are properly contrite. It will always be an extremely sensitive issue for them, so don't dismiss it as an overreaction. Accept it.

Tink2345 · 01/02/2024 04:24

I think the fact that OP has posted here shows this is playing on her mind as she genuinely didn’t mean to upset this person.

Many children lose parents and are left with nothing, and I personally think in the context of this conversation I would automatically think the OP was saying the girl was lucky for the amount of money and that her dad thought to act the way he had to provide it for her. Of course it doesn’t replace her mum, but it’s a legacy many children don’t get so why shouldn’t she count herself lucky?

betterangels · 01/02/2024 04:44

I thought he seemed pretty restrained in his reply, honestly. You should think before you speak.

Zanatdy · 01/02/2024 04:47

It was thoughtless but exactly that, no malice intended. I think he was in his rights to say what he did about being careful what you say. All you can do is apologise, and you have so try and put it behind you.

TeddyToes · 01/02/2024 05:18

From what you've said I think it would have been clear to the people there that you meant no malice. Obviously you were commenting on the amount of money and not the fact that the girl lost her mother ... why on earth would anyone say that was lucky?
I think his response to you is over the top, considering you apologised. And frankly he had no need to be mentioning the specifics of the amount in the first place!
You misspoke, you had the good grace to say sorry and you don't need to beat yourself up about it.