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Should I tell him baby is here?

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AngieR87 · 29/01/2024 11:14

My partner left me around 10 weeks ago , while pregnant with his child. I have a few weeks to go. Originally I was going to tell him when baby was born....but in the whole time we have been separated I've only heard from him a few times and on non of those occasions has he asked how our baby is doing.

I couldn't imagine not knowing how my unborn baby was doing. Because he hasn't been in touch I don't really feel I should tell him when baby is born. What do you think?

He hadn't been very kind to me during this breakup. I don't know if it was said in anger but he said at one point baby wasn't his and that I trapped him with baby (he said he wanted baby when I found out?

AIBU by not telling him when his child is born and just wait for him to ask?

OP posts:
ORLt · 29/01/2024 15:11

I would say the same to my DC - if he loved you, he would have married you. None of that awful 'partner' business. Move on, forget about him.

fulgrate · 29/01/2024 15:13

ORLt · 29/01/2024 15:11

I would say the same to my DC - if he loved you, he would have married you. None of that awful 'partner' business. Move on, forget about him.

They are married

ORLt · 29/01/2024 15:19

fulgrate · 29/01/2024 15:13

They are married

Partner? Sorry, I thought they were not married. I stand corrected.

twnety · 29/01/2024 15:30

AngieR87 · 29/01/2024 11:52

I'm in Scotland. I think it did change a few years back. In scotland if you are married at time of conception baby is considered yours and you will be put on birth certificate.

I would check that - I think that you dont have to.

You should put the name on for the child, however, you need to consider you as well

DreadPirateRobots · 29/01/2024 15:30

I am fairly disbelieving (not of OP - I've googled it, and it's true) that Scots law actively forces you to name your husband even if he is acknowledged not to be the baby's biological father. That is nuts.

What is this guy like as well, claiming to be baby trapped by his wife.

Sapphire387 · 29/01/2024 15:32

If he thinks the baby is not his, I'd be tempted to play him at that and not put him on the bc because paternity is 'uncertain'.

It is not in the child's benefit to have a shitty father who abandons the mother during pregnancy.

So if he wants to be a father, it's up to him to get involved. It's not up to you, OP, to spoon-feed him.

peachgreen · 29/01/2024 15:33

DreadPirateRobots · 29/01/2024 15:30

I am fairly disbelieving (not of OP - I've googled it, and it's true) that Scots law actively forces you to name your husband even if he is acknowledged not to be the baby's biological father. That is nuts.

What is this guy like as well, claiming to be baby trapped by his wife.

Edited

It doesn't. IF your husband is the biological father, you have to name him. If he's not, you don't.

pinkyredrose · 29/01/2024 16:36

He sounds like a wanker. Did he marry you just for a passport?

fulgrate · 29/01/2024 16:42

DreadPirateRobots · 29/01/2024 15:30

I am fairly disbelieving (not of OP - I've googled it, and it's true) that Scots law actively forces you to name your husband even if he is acknowledged not to be the baby's biological father. That is nuts.

What is this guy like as well, claiming to be baby trapped by his wife.

Edited

That's not true.

Whoopaday · 29/01/2024 16:44

Wetblanket78 · 29/01/2024 12:46

I wouldn't wait until the baby is born. At least let him know when the baby is on the way. Leave it up to him to decide if he wants to be there. He will only hold it against you and keep reminding you he never had the chance to be there.

Why the actual fuck would she want him in the delivery room? The idea is to have supportive people with you to help the oxytocin flow not shut down and stall labour completely!

This is saying that as a woman she has to put aside her feelings and needs for the poor man to be there at his child’s birth, that he has abandoned, just to do the right thing?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/01/2024 17:03

AngieR87 · 29/01/2024 11:14

My partner left me around 10 weeks ago , while pregnant with his child. I have a few weeks to go. Originally I was going to tell him when baby was born....but in the whole time we have been separated I've only heard from him a few times and on non of those occasions has he asked how our baby is doing.

I couldn't imagine not knowing how my unborn baby was doing. Because he hasn't been in touch I don't really feel I should tell him when baby is born. What do you think?

He hadn't been very kind to me during this breakup. I don't know if it was said in anger but he said at one point baby wasn't his and that I trapped him with baby (he said he wanted baby when I found out?

AIBU by not telling him when his child is born and just wait for him to ask?

I was in your boat just over a year ago. I wasted so so so much time o seeing over how I should treat him and what photos to send and what was fair and wondering what he was thinking or feeling. Stop that now and please get as selfish as you can before baby comes- only focus on yourself and your baby.
Have you made a plan for who is supporting you when baby arrives? I highly recommend staying with loving parents if you have them.
Please get counselling to help you process your feelings about the break up.
Feel free to dm me xxx

annoyedatlandlord · 29/01/2024 17:08

This sounds awful I'm so sorry @AngieR87. How are you doing otherwise? What a shock and completely different from how I'm sure you imagined it.

AngieR87 · 29/01/2024 17:17

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/01/2024 17:03

I was in your boat just over a year ago. I wasted so so so much time o seeing over how I should treat him and what photos to send and what was fair and wondering what he was thinking or feeling. Stop that now and please get as selfish as you can before baby comes- only focus on yourself and your baby.
Have you made a plan for who is supporting you when baby arrives? I highly recommend staying with loving parents if you have them.
Please get counselling to help you process your feelings about the break up.
Feel free to dm me xxx

I've messages you. Thank you xx

OP posts:
DreadPirateRobots · 29/01/2024 17:59

peachgreen · 29/01/2024 15:33

It doesn't. IF your husband is the biological father, you have to name him. If he's not, you don't.

What do you put down if you don't actually know yet who the biological father is?

Fwiw, I read a couple of Scottish law firm sites who gave an unambiguous "he HAS to go on", with no caveat re: "unless he isn't the father", and I guess they just have to take your word for it that he isn't, unless you show up with DNA test results?

SecondUsername4me · 29/01/2024 18:20

DreadPirateRobots · 29/01/2024 17:59

What do you put down if you don't actually know yet who the biological father is?

Fwiw, I read a couple of Scottish law firm sites who gave an unambiguous "he HAS to go on", with no caveat re: "unless he isn't the father", and I guess they just have to take your word for it that he isn't, unless you show up with DNA test results?

If you are married? Your husbands name.

Unmarried? Leave it blank.

YankSplaining · 29/01/2024 18:28

So if it was a straightforward birth I'd say baby been born, all healthy, x weight, we will be home xyz or we are home now. I am trying to establish bf so would like some privacy but you are welcome to pop round to meet baby for an hour on xyz.

I’d limit this to telling him the baby was born. If he wants to see the baby, he can be the one to ask about a date and time. And there’s no way I’d want him there for as long as an hour. If for some reason he actually stayed that long, he wouldn’t do anything helpful, and no one should feel they have to “entertain guests” with a newborn baby.

But it probably doesn’t matter, because he probably won’t ask to see the baby anyway.

I’m so sorry you’re in such a horrible situation, OP.

IAmAnIdiot123 · 29/01/2024 18:39

Could you go down to England to give birth and get them registered so he doesn't have to be on the birth certificate? I wouldn't bother contacting him, if he reached out and ask I would tell him they had been born and just answer questions, not offer up any information.

fulgrate · 29/01/2024 18:39

@DreadPirateRobots

What do you put down if you don't actually know yet who the biological father is?

Nothing.

DreadPirateRobots · 29/01/2024 18:53

fulgrate · 29/01/2024 18:39

@DreadPirateRobots

What do you put down if you don't actually know yet who the biological father is?

Nothing.

That doesn't really answer the question though. Either your spouse at the time of conception HAS TO go on the cert in
Scotland, as OP's register office and the Internet says, unless you can definitively prove through DNA he's not the biological father, or he doesn't. If you can just say "well I'm not sure if my husband is the father", he doesn't have to go on, and apparently the law says he does.

Temporaryname158 · 29/01/2024 18:54

You will be far more busy with a newborn baby than you are now. File for divorce asap.

ensure you register the baby with your name and don’t give him the babies full name when you do tell him. I would get a passport for baby yourself as soon as they are born, and place a notice on that his father is not allowed to request one as he could leave the country with them. He may be getting his paperwork in order so he can get a child passport for your newborn.

claim CMS and let them inform him

Aimvs123 · 29/01/2024 19:01

I was about to say the same and also don’t name him on the birth certificate.

It doesn’t mean that he can’t be involved if you want and he decides to grow the hell up one day, but it protects you from being beholden to some immature knob that then has parental responsibility.

fulgrate · 29/01/2024 19:02

@DreadPirateRobots

No you do not put someone on who isn't the father. The law is that you put your husbands on if he is the father and you were married at the time of conception

GreyBlackLove · 29/01/2024 19:28

DreadPirateRobots · 29/01/2024 18:53

That doesn't really answer the question though. Either your spouse at the time of conception HAS TO go on the cert in
Scotland, as OP's register office and the Internet says, unless you can definitively prove through DNA he's not the biological father, or he doesn't. If you can just say "well I'm not sure if my husband is the father", he doesn't have to go on, and apparently the law says he does.

The law requires that you name your husband on the birth certificate where
a) you were married at the point of conception or afterwards
And
b) they are the child's father (sometimes referred to as the natural parent).

If the man does not fulfil both criteria the OP would not be obliged. So in a scenario where you don't know the parentage or you know it isnt your husband, you wouldn't be required to name your husband

KnittingKnewbie · 29/01/2024 22:38

HiCandles · 29/01/2024 12:35

Can posters RTWT? Or at least OP's posts? She says quite clearly her local register office has said he must be on the certificate.

@AngieR87 I would tell him in order to be the bigger person and be able to honestly tell your child when older, and busybodies enquiring, you did everything you could to facilitate a relationship. After baby is registered I'd send a succinct message with name and DOB and say you'll be hearing from CMS in due course. Leave the rest up to him.
Absolutely appalling behaviour on his part, of course. You're quite right that the way for him to check on his baby is to ask after you/scans/midwife appointments.

😖 sorry, so annoying, I hate it myself when people don't RTFT. I did hit "see all" too 🤷🏻‍♀️

OP had described him as partner though in many posts, up until I posted , just before the update that he is actually her husband. (As in, I didn't read that update but read about 7 posts and missed the 8th).

Interesting advice about moving south and registering there/seeking a quickie divorce/ definitely worth getting legal advice OP. And fast

tutrw · 29/01/2024 22:52

NotQuiteNorma · 29/01/2024 11:22

The baby isn't here to ask about yet and he left because he didn't want to be in the relationship, so why would he ask how you were? I think you need to separate you and the baby here. Yes tell him when the baby is born, either yourself or via maintenance.

@NotQuiteNorma errrrrr because she’s carrying his child?

Christ the bar is low for men isn’t it.