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To not want to be sat near loud cackling women

598 replies

Ferretmad2 · 28/01/2024 13:19

What is it with groups of loud, cackling women these days? Third time I’ve eaten out recently and next to a table full of shouty, cackling women who seem to be in a contest of who can cackle the loudest. Doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s a posh place or not. I’m fed up of having to be sat near them whilst waiting for my food. Can’t move as we are in a table of 7. My three autistic children are completely silent! Feel like following my eldest child’s example and getting noise cancelling AirPods.

OP posts:
BitOutOfPractice · 28/01/2024 16:41

I’m sorry @delamore, why exactly would you like me to fuck off dear?

BigFatCat2024 · 28/01/2024 16:42

Nothing worse than being at a table next to someone channeling Janice from Friends

Poudretteite · 28/01/2024 16:42

BassoContinuo · 28/01/2024 15:08

There is a lot of potential between “silent” and “making it impossible for anyone outside your group to hear themselves think”, though. Most people fall somewhere between those extremes.

OP said they are silent, it's in her post.

Ursulla · 28/01/2024 16:42

goneaway2 · 28/01/2024 16:04

They were silent during most of the meal. They aren't normally that quiet, I suspect the loud cackling overwhelmed them. There were 3 other adults with me who weren't silent! The point, I was making though is that is three autistic children were better behaved than these women!

Name change fail OP?

BassoContinuo · 28/01/2024 16:43

Poudretteite · 28/01/2024 16:42

OP said they are silent, it's in her post.

She said her children were silent, not her entire party of 7

Poudretteite · 28/01/2024 16:44

Belinda5 · 28/01/2024 15:15

Where did the OP suggest people should be completely silent?

She said her table are silent and others are too loud. In her opening post.

canonlydoblue · 28/01/2024 16:45

The horror of people having fun in a social situation. Rather that than witness a table (half) full of kids with ear pods in....

Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 28/01/2024 16:47

User1775 · 28/01/2024 16:30

the idea that women should be polite and stifle a little giggle or they are 'cackling' is misogyny. Misogyny is bigotry. HTH.

Nobody is saying that specifically women shouldn't laugh or enjoy themselves though, more that nobody should be making so much noise that other diners cannot hold a conversation at their own table.

BassoContinuo · 28/01/2024 16:47

canonlydoblue · 28/01/2024 16:45

The horror of people having fun in a social situation. Rather that than witness a table (half) full of kids with ear pods in....

OP said her children are autistic, which is presumably why they are wearing ear pods.

Why would children with ear pods disturb you anyway? At least assuming that you can’t hear tinny music from them.

Mouk · 28/01/2024 16:49

I've a acquaintance like this and it's mortifying. I've seen other diners look over at her when we are out in a group of 5, she's the only one being loud and the more she's had to drink the louder she gets.

RampantIvy · 28/01/2024 16:49

Crikey, I'm surprised that 55% of posters think that sitting next to a table full of cackling women is OK. I would hate it. I hate noisy places.

We once left a pub after one drink and ended up going home for a takeaway instead of eating at the pub because it was so noisy. You couldn't even hear yourself think.

Daphnis156 · 28/01/2024 16:49

I suppose "Cackling Karens" would have caused even more opprobrium...

Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 28/01/2024 16:50

Daphnis156 · 28/01/2024 16:49

I suppose "Cackling Karens" would have caused even more opprobrium...

Using the term cackling is not the same as labelling someone a Karen.

JudgeJ · 28/01/2024 16:50

CurlewKate · 28/01/2024 13:24

Better than shouty sweary drunken men.....

What's the difference? Both groups are being an annoyance to those wanting to be in a civilised environment.

Ferretmad2 · 28/01/2024 16:51

Tiiredofthiss · 28/01/2024 15:46

Are you neurodivergent yourself?
This doesn't sound like a typical response to the sound of others enjoying themselves in public. Loop sound cancelling earbuds might help.
I'd person prefer to be sat next to a group of people having fun than a group where 3/7 are sat completely silently

I have Asperger’s but the three adults that we were sat with are neurotypical and they also hated the noise. I can’t get earbuds or ear plugs to stay in my ears otherwise I would but then I wouldn’t be able to hear my children, people I’m with or the servers.

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SouthEastCoast · 28/01/2024 16:52

Cackling? Offensive much… how are women ever going to get equality when other women tear them down for the slightest thing…?

canonlydoblue · 28/01/2024 16:52

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Shoppingfiend · 28/01/2024 16:54

I think it’s forced -they are letting everyone and their actual friends see and hear that they are ‘great fun’.
Nothing is that funny.
A group were also singing loudly -the same few lines of a song. This was on the train. At 9.30am.

Ferretmad2 · 28/01/2024 16:54

BassoContinuo · 28/01/2024 16:47

OP said her children are autistic, which is presumably why they are wearing ear pods.

Why would children with ear pods disturb you anyway? At least assuming that you can’t hear tinny music from them.

One child had AirPod pros in, can’t hear a thing from them! He really struggles with noise. I would never begrudge him having them.

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Ferretmad2 · 28/01/2024 16:56

I’ve got different names on my phone and laptop! I can’t remember the password from the laptop one.

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RampantIvy · 28/01/2024 16:57

SouthEastCoast · 28/01/2024 16:52

Cackling? Offensive much… how are women ever going to get equality when other women tear them down for the slightest thing…?

There is a hell of a lot of difference between laughing, which is fine, and cackling which isn't, and yes, some groups women do cackle.

I'm pretty sure I'm NT but when I'm with other people in a pub I like to hear what they are saying, and I can't hear other people when the background noise is too loud.

Lassiata · 28/01/2024 16:57

Blondebutnotlegally · 28/01/2024 13:36

Stay at home. You aren't entitled to a certain level of noise you deem comfortable and acceptable.

She's entitled to be annoyed if she likes though.

Sirzy · 28/01/2024 16:58

RampantIvy · 28/01/2024 16:49

Crikey, I'm surprised that 55% of posters think that sitting next to a table full of cackling women is OK. I would hate it. I hate noisy places.

We once left a pub after one drink and ended up going home for a takeaway instead of eating at the pub because it was so noisy. You couldn't even hear yourself think.

I’m not surprised. It explains a lot about behaviour you see when out and about!

Lassiata · 28/01/2024 16:58

MyopicBunny · 28/01/2024 15:43

It's not just women though. It's men too. 'HA HA HA HAAAAAAA' It does come across like they are being performative about how much of a good time they are having.,

Yeah this. Can't stand it.

tinytemper66 · 28/01/2024 16:58

MrsHughesPinny · 28/01/2024 16:05

@tinytemper66 Yes I am!

Ok. Mind, Inwas in one in Cardiff on the weekend! Tacky and lots of v loud Cardiffians! Our group was a mixture of South Walians! 🤣