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To not want to be sat near loud cackling women

598 replies

Ferretmad2 · 28/01/2024 13:19

What is it with groups of loud, cackling women these days? Third time I’ve eaten out recently and next to a table full of shouty, cackling women who seem to be in a contest of who can cackle the loudest. Doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s a posh place or not. I’m fed up of having to be sat near them whilst waiting for my food. Can’t move as we are in a table of 7. My three autistic children are completely silent! Feel like following my eldest child’s example and getting noise cancelling AirPods.

OP posts:
MyopicBunny · 28/01/2024 15:43

It's not just women though. It's men too. 'HA HA HA HAAAAAAA' It does come across like they are being performative about how much of a good time they are having.,

Ursulla · 28/01/2024 15:43

You said your three children are silent so presumably you are too, when out with them. Unless you sit talking to yourself while they sit in silence, who knows? 🤷‍♀️ but that's probably why other people seem noisy. Maybe you don't notice it so much when you're eating out with friends, unless your friends are also silent.

Posypointshoes · 28/01/2024 15:46

I think people generally have become more obnoxious tbh

Tiiredofthiss · 28/01/2024 15:46

Are you neurodivergent yourself?
This doesn't sound like a typical response to the sound of others enjoying themselves in public. Loop sound cancelling earbuds might help.
I'd person prefer to be sat next to a group of people having fun than a group where 3/7 are sat completely silently

MyopicBunny · 28/01/2024 15:47

Oneofthesurvivors · 28/01/2024 14:12

Pfft, nobody is louder than groups of Welsh men.

Yes they are - Sicilian men 😂

Branleuse · 28/01/2024 15:51

muchalover · 28/01/2024 13:21

Why does their having fun make you so angry?

😂 is that a serious question??

tinytemper66 · 28/01/2024 15:52

Oneofthesurvivors · 28/01/2024 14:12

Pfft, nobody is louder than groups of Welsh men.

Why do you say this? I have been in pubs in England with really loud English men.

Petrine · 28/01/2024 15:53

I agree OP.

tinytemper66 · 28/01/2024 15:53

MrsHughesPinny · 28/01/2024 14:41

@UnctuousUnicorns ”Bellowing”

And, from experience, there truly is nothing louder than a group of women from Swansea on a hen night. My ears were still ringing the next day…

Are you from Swansea or somewhere nearby? Why pick on the Welsh ones?

DillDanding · 28/01/2024 15:56

I have a lovely friend who is embarrassingly loud on a night out. She whoops, screams and cackles. I see other people looking over at our table and feel mortified. My ‘shhh-ing’ has no effect whatsoever.

Jewelanemone · 28/01/2024 15:59

Come to Surrey. Restaurants here are full of braying, guffawing men, and shrieking, drawling women. Entitled, yah?

goneaway2 · 28/01/2024 16:04

Ursulla · 28/01/2024 15:43

You said your three children are silent so presumably you are too, when out with them. Unless you sit talking to yourself while they sit in silence, who knows? 🤷‍♀️ but that's probably why other people seem noisy. Maybe you don't notice it so much when you're eating out with friends, unless your friends are also silent.

They were silent during most of the meal. They aren't normally that quiet, I suspect the loud cackling overwhelmed them. There were 3 other adults with me who weren't silent! The point, I was making though is that is three autistic children were better behaved than these women!

MrsHughesPinny · 28/01/2024 16:05

@tinytemper66 Yes I am!

User1775 · 28/01/2024 16:17

LikeagoddamnVampire · 28/01/2024 13:42

Anyone who uses "cackling" is usually a misogynist. Can you think of an equivalent word for men? It's never used against men.

Anyone who uses it 3 times in a couple of sentences ...

This 👆It's like 'nagging' and calling women Karens. You need to think why women laughing is so aggravating and address it, or yes, stay at home and let them enjoy themselves without your bigotry.

Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 28/01/2024 16:18

User1775 · 28/01/2024 16:17

This 👆It's like 'nagging' and calling women Karens. You need to think why women laughing is so aggravating and address it, or yes, stay at home and let them enjoy themselves without your bigotry.

Bigotry?
Care to elaborate?

Lourdes12 · 28/01/2024 16:21

Maybe there should be loud areas and quiet areas

User1775 · 28/01/2024 16:30

Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 28/01/2024 16:18

Bigotry?
Care to elaborate?

the idea that women should be polite and stifle a little giggle or they are 'cackling' is misogyny. Misogyny is bigotry. HTH.

BitOutOfPractice · 28/01/2024 16:31

“Cackling”. Ugh. Funny how men never cackle.

TentativeTiff · 28/01/2024 16:31

Op - you mention you have three autistic children. Are you autistic too? Might be a possibility and why you are so sensitive to the noise. I would honestly invest in some of those loop things or some other noise cancelling item.

BassoContinuo · 28/01/2024 16:32

User1775 · 28/01/2024 16:30

the idea that women should be polite and stifle a little giggle or they are 'cackling' is misogyny. Misogyny is bigotry. HTH.

The idea that people - women or men - should not dominate their surroundings at the expense of others is manners. HTH.

BitOutOfPractice · 28/01/2024 16:33

goneaway2 · 28/01/2024 16:04

They were silent during most of the meal. They aren't normally that quiet, I suspect the loud cackling overwhelmed them. There were 3 other adults with me who weren't silent! The point, I was making though is that is three autistic children were better behaved than these women!

“Better behaved”? Women, know your place! Behave yourselves and pipe down in public.

ffs 🙄

ConstitutionHill · 28/01/2024 16:35

LikeagoddamnVampire · 28/01/2024 13:42

Anyone who uses "cackling" is usually a misogynist. Can you think of an equivalent word for men? It's never used against men.

Anyone who uses it 3 times in a couple of sentences ...

I'd probably use "braying" for a load groups of blokes talking rubbish.

delamore · 28/01/2024 16:35

BitOutOfPractice · 28/01/2024 16:33

“Better behaved”? Women, know your place! Behave yourselves and pipe down in public.

ffs 🙄

ODFOD

Patrickiscrazy · 28/01/2024 16:36

I hear you, OP. My narcissistic mother is a member of one of these cackling witch groups. Thanks goodness I live in another country.

TeenLifeMum · 28/01/2024 16:40

Some people are just totally unaware of their impact on those around them.