To not want to be sat near loud cackling women

[Ferretmad2]

What is it with groups of loud, cackling women these days? Third time I’ve eaten out recently and next to a table full of shouty, cackling women who seem to be in a contest of who can cackle the loudest. Doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s a posh place or not. I’m fed up of having to be sat near them whilst waiting for my food. Can’t move as we are in a table of 7. My three autistic children are completely silent! Feel like following my eldest child’s example and getting noise cancelling AirPods.

I mean, you're not wrong, people generally are less considerate and more rude in public I think. But I went out for a meal in an Indian restaurant on Friday and it was a group of only 3 blokes that were so loud, with regular guffawing and literally shouting at the tops of their voice - about shagging women would you believe - that I honestly could not hear what the person I was sat opposite 3 tables away was saying when one of them said something and the others started roaring their appreciation. I really don't think this is specifically a group of women thing. Both are rude and irritating.

I blame their husbands 🙄

But equally, someone else would not be entitled to say that there should be no consideration of noise levels, and anyone who doesn’t like it is not entitled to be there! In a public space, there has to be a compromise somewhere.

I hate the use of 'shrill' or 'cackling' to describe women's voices. Having said that though, I have experienced what the OP is describing more than a few times in pubs and restaurants. I am meeting friends for a catch-up and can't hear them due to females (mainly, not exclusively) actually screaming with laughter and shouting to make themselves heard over each other.

I don't blame OP for the use of 'cackling' in this context. It's very annoying and it does happen.

Yes. I’ve noticed this. There’s alway one who has to be heard above the others. Inconsiderate loudmouths.

Pfft, nobody is louder than groups of Welsh men.

Chambers dictionary:
cacklenoun1 the sound made by a hen or a goose. 2derog a raucous laugh like this. 3 shrill, silly chatter. verb (cackled, cackling) intrans1 to laugh raucously. 2 to chatter noisily. 3 to utter as a cackle. cut the cackle colloq to stop chatting aimlessly and come to the point.
ETYMOLOGY: 13c: imitating the sound.

I see your loud, 'cackling' women and I raise you loud, bellowing men. Just as annoying.

Get some loop earplugs they do them to reduce this type of noise - I wear them as very sensitive to noise after stroke

There is another thread at the moment about men performative sneezing loudly. They can control it in the theatre or cinema yet they mysteriously lose the ability to control the volume in the pub or around their own sleeping babies.

I was irritated by a woman loudly laughing in a cafe the other day. It really seemed like it was performative rather than just her genuine laughter. A lot like the loudly pronounced "ATCHOO" sneezing mentioned on the other thread.

I am bewildered by people at times.

"Guffawing?" 🤷‍♀️

Do they spontaneously burst into song, too? 😉

The only person I know with a genuine cackle is my closest friend who is male. He doesn't have a regular laugh, just a cackle, all the time. 😂 It isn't annoying as it is, but if he was doing it loudly as part of an equally loud group, yes, it would be irritating.
I don't think OP expects silence, but surely no-one wants to eat beside a loud group with no consideration for others who don't want to listen to them.

Or “braying”?

I’m have to agree. Sometimes “cackling” or alternatively “shrieking” is an accurate description of the noise. Actually yes shrieking describes it very well. I can’t bear groups of women (or men) shrieking.

@UnctuousUnicorns ”Bellowing”

And, from experience, there truly is nothing louder than a group of women from Swansea on a hen night. My ears were still ringing the next day…

I'm with you, I don't see why their conversation can't be kept at their own table. It is possible to laugh and enjoy yourself without shouting!

Cackling?? What..so laughing?

Get some loops and get over it

It seems since covid people have become more entitled for some reason. No one must be seen to be shitting out. Everyone can do exactly as they like. Fake lives portrayed as real on Instagram. No one gives a toss about anyone else.

Braying is for donkeys?

I had to take my hearing aids out in a Wetherspoons last week because of a group of cackling, raucous, guffawing people. A mixed group of men and women. I’d already turned the rear microphones off yet the noise was literally deafening. It was actually painful.

Can also be used for people - I’ve heard it more commonly to describe men than women

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/braying#

Totally agree, op....I bloody love a good night out with my friends but you can still be respectful of the people around you. It's a type of bragging, oh look at us, we're having such a fantastic time....they'll have instagrammed their cocktails too!

And using the word 'cackling' is not misogynistic, it's accurate....

Agreed, rather misogynistic use of language OP.

Women having fun are clearly witches. 🙄

Neither are people 'entitled' to inflict their noise on others.