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Homeoffice fees

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Lucky2shoes · 28/01/2024 09:17

Dp is on limited leave to remain and we are so upset at what it's going to cost to renew for another 2.5 years. It's in the region of £4500. We both feel like our lives are wrecked and I feel like there is no point in my life anymore. I'm on zero hour contract as I'm unwell due to autism/adhd plus other conditions I can't work more hours and dp is full-time minimum wage we are not entitled to any benefits.
On top of all of this dp has dependants although mostly grown up in his home country who put immense pressure on him to help financially due to poor earnings.
I don't know what to do about this situation but I feel like checking out of my life but I feel so bad for dp who is a very good person.

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MrsCatE · 29/01/2024 23:55

I really thought this was a reverse / goady racist - then read other posters comments re history. Unbelievable. If OP is so unhappy with situation I suggest she buggers off with him to Pakistan. Not all areas are crap; just the majority. Also assume there will be many more dependents; eldest son saving up with his 'girlfriend' on one hand to get their own place and a casual aside that the daughter doesn't need to be educated because she'll be married off - probably to a close relative. If all she has stated is true, I do hope he gets deported and leaves space for someone on a real work / spouse Visa.

MrsCatE · 30/01/2024 00:05

If this is true, she won't listen anyway. Bonkers.

Zanatdy · 30/01/2024 05:49

Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 18:23

We are aware I've already factored it in however by the time his renewal comes around the greedy homeoffice will have most likely increased it again.

It won’t go up again so soon I’m my opinion. These fee’s the Home office charge doesn’t make them a massive profit, far from it. It costs a lot of money in staffing costs to process visa’s and I don’t know how they work out the IHS but if it’s going up it’s because it’s costing more than they earn. The government aren’t like private companies out to make massive profits.

Alaimo · 30/01/2024 06:36

Zanatdy · 30/01/2024 05:49

It won’t go up again so soon I’m my opinion. These fee’s the Home office charge doesn’t make them a massive profit, far from it. It costs a lot of money in staffing costs to process visa’s and I don’t know how they work out the IHS but if it’s going up it’s because it’s costing more than they earn. The government aren’t like private companies out to make massive profits.

This article is a few years old, but since fees haven't exactly gone down since then...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/01/home-office-makes-800-profit-on-some-visa-applications

Home Office makes thousands in profit on some visa applications

Size of margins raises concerns department has incentive to reject applicants on technicalities, forcing them to reapply

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/01/home-office-makes-800-profit-on-some-visa-applications

Zanatdy · 30/01/2024 06:39

Alaimo · 30/01/2024 06:36

This article is a few years old, but since fees haven't exactly gone down since then...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/01/home-office-makes-800-profit-on-some-visa-applications

Profit that’s ploughed back into it, introduction of electronic visas this year, the tech for that costs more than you’d ever imagine. Any so called profit goes into improving the service etc, it’s not true profit in the way people consider profit

Grilledsquid · 30/01/2024 06:44

@Oliotya oh yeah I forgot IHS. My bad

Lucky2shoes · 30/01/2024 07:27

MrsCatE · 29/01/2024 23:55

I really thought this was a reverse / goady racist - then read other posters comments re history. Unbelievable. If OP is so unhappy with situation I suggest she buggers off with him to Pakistan. Not all areas are crap; just the majority. Also assume there will be many more dependents; eldest son saving up with his 'girlfriend' on one hand to get their own place and a casual aside that the daughter doesn't need to be educated because she'll be married off - probably to a close relative. If all she has stated is true, I do hope he gets deported and leaves space for someone on a real work / spouse Visa.

Oh please be deported because his daughter will be married off and his son is saving money that makes you wish for somebody to be deported does it and fwiw he isn't sitting on his arse he's working and paying something into the country making a useful contribution at his place of work so do not insult us.

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Lucky2shoes · 30/01/2024 07:33

The homeoffice fees are extortionate like everything else in this country and people like my dp can have strong work ethos and do jobs nobody else wants to do.
The bottom line is nobody wants people like my dp here hence the hostility seen on this thread.

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macedoniann · 30/01/2024 07:41

Lucky2shoes · 30/01/2024 07:33

The homeoffice fees are extortionate like everything else in this country and people like my dp can have strong work ethos and do jobs nobody else wants to do.
The bottom line is nobody wants people like my dp here hence the hostility seen on this thread.

Yes OP, we don't want people who not only overstay but also take advantage of a disabled and vulnerable woman.
He has enough to pay the fees.
He simply does not want to.
His son is 'saving money' at YOUR expense. You realise that savings are a privilege? Only when you have extra left over after spending.
That is not the problem of anybody else.

You have repeated the same things, always insist you'll leave the thread but come back to defend your DP. Earlier you admitted that it could be a ruse etc etc but I think you're firmly stuck in and nobody can save you. I pity your poor son.

BTW I am an immigrant too and have had to pay the fees. Guess what I paid. No quibble.

HolidayAddict23 · 30/01/2024 07:48

You’re delusional!

CheesecakeandCrackers · 30/01/2024 08:00

Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 21:40

Are you aware of the cost to the homeoffice to process these applications because its very small compared to what they charge people. It's awful that people defend thier charges

Funnily enough I am and it isn't a box ticking process. It involves a lot of people, offices, systems etc particularly where applications are complex and need investigation. For those with a simple application it will be expensive but for those like DP where there is background to be reviewed and deeper work then it may well cost more. Think about how all the departments have to interact, we often think public services should be free in the UK without having any real understanding of how expensive the infrastructure is.

Oliotya · 30/01/2024 08:23

CheesecakeandCrackers · 30/01/2024 08:00

Funnily enough I am and it isn't a box ticking process. It involves a lot of people, offices, systems etc particularly where applications are complex and need investigation. For those with a simple application it will be expensive but for those like DP where there is background to be reviewed and deeper work then it may well cost more. Think about how all the departments have to interact, we often think public services should be free in the UK without having any real understanding of how expensive the infrastructure is.

They're pretty transparent about the profit they make and the goal to make twice what it costs. They're not spending thousands investigating an application - either you have supplied the correct documents or you get denied, there's no fact checking. Please.

MinnieCauldwell · 30/01/2024 08:44

If the daughter marries will he, (you!), have to provide a dowry still?

hangingonfordearlife1 · 30/01/2024 20:13

have you not watched east is east? he's got a wife and kids in pakistan! she probably knows about you too. and what kind of man is he that he doesn't want to go back when his children are there???

Tattletwat · 30/01/2024 20:45

hangingonfordearlife1 · 30/01/2024 20:13

have you not watched east is east? he's got a wife and kids in pakistan! she probably knows about you too. and what kind of man is he that he doesn't want to go back when his children are there???

Absolutely either he's a scumbag who abandons his kids or he has left them in care of their mother who isn't dead.

Eithier way he's a scumbag who abanded his young kids.

MrsCatE · 01/02/2024 03:35

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MinnieCauldwell · 01/02/2024 08:38

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Of course it isn't, Google it, it is still practised in many regions, especially the more rural areas.

MrsCatE · 01/02/2024 10:52

@MinnieCauldwell dowries are (meant to be) illegal. Pakistani women are meant to be given a monetary settlement upon marriage. However, all balderdash and I'm sure he would suddenly claim OP had to sell a kidney to fund his daughter's wedding. What I can't understand is OPs interpretation that the daughter doesn't matter because she'll be future husband's property / problem. I thought this thread was a piss take - then other posters referred back to OPs other previous ramblings.

KatherineParr · 01/02/2024 13:08

Obviously I could be wrong but I don't think this is a piss take. I think it's someone trying to be reassured that they and their DP are just tragic victims of circumstance, which is why OP started deflecting away from her DPs actions/lack of action to talk about the Home Office profiting off applications and 'no one' wanting her DP in the UK. Mumsnet can never give OP that reassurance though.

hangingonfordearlife1 · 01/02/2024 17:50

MrsCatE · 01/02/2024 10:52

@MinnieCauldwell dowries are (meant to be) illegal. Pakistani women are meant to be given a monetary settlement upon marriage. However, all balderdash and I'm sure he would suddenly claim OP had to sell a kidney to fund his daughter's wedding. What I can't understand is OPs interpretation that the daughter doesn't matter because she'll be future husband's property / problem. I thought this thread was a piss take - then other posters referred back to OPs other previous ramblings.

yes dowries are cultural not religious as islamically it's the bride that receives a "security" from the groom. That has to be agreed during the nikah- wedding and is hers to do what she wants with.

PonyPatter44 · 01/02/2024 17:53

I said it before, I'll say it again - bring the daughter here, she has a chance to make something of her life rather than having to just be married off, and it reduces the amount he has to send abroad.

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