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Homeoffice fees

347 replies

Lucky2shoes · 28/01/2024 09:17

Dp is on limited leave to remain and we are so upset at what it's going to cost to renew for another 2.5 years. It's in the region of £4500. We both feel like our lives are wrecked and I feel like there is no point in my life anymore. I'm on zero hour contract as I'm unwell due to autism/adhd plus other conditions I can't work more hours and dp is full-time minimum wage we are not entitled to any benefits.
On top of all of this dp has dependants although mostly grown up in his home country who put immense pressure on him to help financially due to poor earnings.
I don't know what to do about this situation but I feel like checking out of my life but I feel so bad for dp who is a very good person.

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Simonjt · 29/01/2024 19:42

macedoniann · 29/01/2024 19:41

Highly unlikely with this family's work ethic.
The DP has a 24 year old child and one close to adulthood. Still relying on handouts.
Seems like he's going to support them forever.

Supporting your children is something you think is backward?

macedoniann · 29/01/2024 19:45

Simonjt · 29/01/2024 19:42

Supporting your children is something you think is backward?

Where did I say that?
You're the one who talked about getting a good job. Clearly the eldest hasn't gotten one, as they're still relying on handouts.
You also weren't on PP's previous thread, where she revealed it's not just his own kids he's supporting. It's his grown ass siblings.
Again, working hard and making something of yourselves isn't encouraged here.

aliatalia2 · 29/01/2024 19:47

They think he's loaded even on min wage because they must be really struggling... Is he African?

Sahana28 · 29/01/2024 19:48

aliatalia2 · 29/01/2024 19:47

They think he's loaded even on min wage because they must be really struggling... Is he African?

Pakistani

aliatalia2 · 29/01/2024 19:49

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 28/01/2024 11:22

So what do you want? You've started another thread just whinging about how hard things are for you when the solution is there smacking you both in the face. If you don't want to stop sending money back to Pakistan then fine, instead when your partner can't get ILR you can wave him off at the airport when he has to move back home.

Stop complaining and grow up. Nobody is going to hand you the HO fees so either start saving for them by cutting his family off or prepare yourself for his eventual deportation.

He may have a wife and children in Pakistan who he's sending money to. Muslims are allowed 4 wives.

caringcarer · 29/01/2024 19:51

Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 12:11

Children are 24 18 and 15

Why can't the 24 year old get a job and pay their own way?

aliatalia2 · 29/01/2024 19:51

penjil · 28/01/2024 13:23

Quietly likely, I would have thought.

£400 a month would keep a poor Pakistani family going along quite nicely. His mother and father and in-laws are probably getting a cut of it too.

How old is you partner, OP?
It's very unusual that a Pakistani man hasn't married or had a family by his mid-twenties, especially in the poorer communities.

He may have even left, just to come here with the sole intention of supporting them.

You can't speak his language, so you'll never be able to know what he's saying on the phone.

Most people in Pakistan speak English

murasaki · 29/01/2024 19:54

Yes, but it's clear that the face time calls are happening in Urdu to exclude her

Simonjt · 29/01/2024 20:00

murasaki · 29/01/2024 19:54

Yes, but it's clear that the face time calls are happening in Urdu to exclude her

Urdu is a simple language and easy to learn, if OP wanted to she could have easily learned it during their time together.

murasaki · 29/01/2024 20:15

Over 8 years, yes, I agree.

Grilledsquid · 29/01/2024 20:23

Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 18:09

Slightest mistake they will reject it and we will lose the £1048 application fee it's a very hostile process.

I am aware. We had immigration solicitors before. Check.for citizenship application cost us 400. 800is steep. Frankly you are paying lits of extras on top of 1something k. So no. HO fees are mot 4.5k.

Grilledsquid · 29/01/2024 20:34

aliatalia2 · 29/01/2024 19:49

He may have a wife and children in Pakistan who he's sending money to. Muslims are allowed 4 wives.

BUT they have to be able to take care of them equally. Not skim onw to feed rhe other. And wifes are aware.
He ain't proper Muslim like that anyway living with women unmarried

Oliotya · 29/01/2024 20:44

Grilledsquid · 29/01/2024 20:23

I am aware. We had immigration solicitors before. Check.for citizenship application cost us 400. 800is steep. Frankly you are paying lits of extras on top of 1something k. So no. HO fees are mot 4.5k.

It's roughly £3.5k for the application fee plus new IHS cost. There are often other costs too (appointment fee, English testing etc). With the cost of a solicitor it can easily top £4k ime. The price increases have been huge.

whatsitcalledwhen · 29/01/2024 21:13

@Lucky2shoes

I know I know but it wouldn't be fair to abandon him now he is trying.

He's not your child, the relationship ending wouldn't be 'abandoning' him. He is an adult, he chose to move here, he chose to overstay, he chooses to send £400 a month home.

He's not a passive victim of circumstance, as much as I feel bad that he's had a tough time, a series of active choices (overstaying and current finances) mean this was always going to come down to some really tough decisions when it comes to what he prioritises now.

Unfortunately that has a huge impact on your life too, whatever decisions he makes.

CheesecakeandCrackers · 29/01/2024 21:25

Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 17:51

I'm.pretty certain our government are doing okay without taking advantage of the most vulnerable

It's not taking advantage. Its a contribution towards the systems DP can access and the admin costs of processing the application. Your DP is not one of the more vulnerable applicants, he works and is not here as a refugee. He is doing worthwhile work and has had time to save towards the application but hasn't.

murasaki · 29/01/2024 21:38

He will always prioritise his family in Pakistan over you. He's been doing it for 8 years, what makes you think it will change now? You need to move on for your own well being. And not take on any more debt for this man.

You deserve heating in your flat. He does not deserve ILR.

Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 21:40

CheesecakeandCrackers · 29/01/2024 21:25

It's not taking advantage. Its a contribution towards the systems DP can access and the admin costs of processing the application. Your DP is not one of the more vulnerable applicants, he works and is not here as a refugee. He is doing worthwhile work and has had time to save towards the application but hasn't.

Are you aware of the cost to the homeoffice to process these applications because its very small compared to what they charge people. It's awful that people defend thier charges

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murasaki · 29/01/2024 21:44

What about their overheads re buildings, utilities, etc, training, staff costs per hour going through unpicking the lies and truths which will take time, I think it sounds fair enough.

Twomilksonesugar · 29/01/2024 21:46

I've not read the ops previous threads so only know her backstory from the updates on this thread but the op thinks the HO fees are unfair. However, I can't help but think that surely you should be considering that these fees are an investment in a future in this country and the opportunities/benefits that being a resident in the UK brings. Living here must obviously be more attractive than staying in his homeland, better health care, job opportunites, living conditions etc. If those things were available in Pakistan, why the need to relocate to the UK. I just think you have to suck up the fees if this is where you both want him to be. Like others have said, we all have choices in life.

murasaki · 29/01/2024 21:51

Actually they could run a two tier fee system, one fee for applicants who have done everything by the book, and a higher one for those who haven't , in this case overstaying illegally. That would seem fair to me.

HussellRobbs · 29/01/2024 21:59

£400 is a lot of money in Pakistan.

I would ask DP:

  1. Who is he supporting, one household? If more than one he should only contribute to one household where his mum/dad live.
  2. How much is the monthly rent?
  3. How much are the monthly rations (rice, oil, etc)?
  4. How much are the monthly bills?
  5. How much for medicine / doctors bills?
  6. Ask for evidence of all of the above

And then DP should reduce the amount he sends based on that. £100 is around 35,000 rupees which depending on the area is a good contribution, provided the family are earning a wage too, even if a low one.

Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 23:09

It's a 5 person household

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Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 23:11

His 2 sons bring in roughly £120 per month between them

OP posts:
Lucky2shoes · 29/01/2024 23:12

The odd amount goes to his brothers although not regularly

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whatsitcalledwhen · 29/01/2024 23:18

Were the solicitors you went to (if I remember correctly) helpful at all?