To be sick of vapes everywhere

[MaloneMeadow]

I can’t seem to go anywhere these days without a white cloud of disgusting candy flavoured vapour being blown in my face. It’s gotten to a point where I truly believe that it’s worse than smoking - at least most smokers are well aware that it’s an anti-social behaviour and do it away from other people, and outdoors! With vapers there seem to be absolutely no boundaries or thought that not everyone wants to be covered in their chemical smoke.

Absolutely horrible habit that’s catching on to far too many young children. A ban can’t come soon enough - even my 19 year old DD is sick of her friends being addicted to them. They’re like dummies in some cases, never out of their mouths!

My MIL used a vape in my house over Christmas. DS saw her and told me, then I watched her use it while sitting on the sofa with her in the room. DH had a word and asked her not to use it on the house and she got all huffy and said she had never used it in the house, she'd gone outside. I literally watched her do it! I want sure what was worse, using it in the house, or outright lying about it.

I bloody hate the things, there's no evidence they are safe and people do use them everywhere because they are convinced they are harmless. They should be banned.

Vaping helps massively in people quitting smoking

there's no evidence they are safe

Well no because that's not the way medical science works. If you look for evidence of harm and find none you have not proven them to be safe, just found no evidence of harm.

There's a 1468 page evidence update from Public Health England here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nicotine-vaping-in-england-2022-evidence-update

(the summary and main findings are substantially shorter!)

I'm not keen on the smell of it but I've yet to have someone blow it into my face, so you must be quite unlucky.

Ditto the 'multiple' friends of your DD that have ended up in hospital over it.

I'd say the latter is quite rare unless she knows multiple people with asthma or something?

Both girls were well controlled asthmatics

I'm so with you on this OP.
Filthy fucking things with their sickly smells. Massive problem amongst the young too.

Going to assume that you are an avid vaper.. why else would you be so keen to promote their supposed safety

Wow, calling a pp a 'strange person' because they don't believe or agree with something you've said is a bit OTT isn't it? No need to get personal!

The NHS advice on using vapes for quitting smoking is that it is a positive thing to do. Agree that they shouldn't be marketed towards kids and that people should be respectful and not vape in peoples faces!

Considering they were implying that for some bizarre reason I felt the need to make stories up about my own DD’s friends (thankfully my life isn’t that sad and empty!) I feel it was justified

You said:

“Multiple young friends of DD (all heavy vapers) have ended up in hospital because of it in recent years.”

And then it became “Both...from years of heavy vaping”.

And I’m a ‘strange person’ for doubting your original story? Okey-dokey.

It is weird how vaping (god knows what's in them, especially the huge variety and range that's on sale) has completely taken over smoking (as far as I can see) so I guess it's worked.
Not sure how many smokers there would be these days, it was beginning to look so out-dated, expensive & considered so anti-social - but there must be more capers than ex-smokers we can agree on that?

I wonder what the argument for vaping will be when smoking will be outlawed (we'll be all AI or living in the meta verse by then I suppose....)

When your teenager’s friends all have smoker’s coughs (despite never smoking) get back to me on that one! 2 ending up in hospital over it is 2 too many.

I hate vapes and their environmental impact,
I live in a weird town centre location and we regularly have disposable vapes dumped over our fence. I walk to the shops and I have to walk through a cloud of vape. The worst was when I was driving down the motorway and wondered what the strange smell in the car was until I spotted the vape stream from the car in front.

Why must they be banned? Every bloody day there’s somebody on here wanting something banned.

You can choose not to use them, not to allow them in your house and you can ask people not to vape around you but beyond that, mind your own business.

I’m assuming that you also want alcohol banned? Fair few people end up in hospital because of that, too.

Awful for the environment, being used more and more by literal children due to irresponsible companies marketing them with fun flavours, acting as a gateway to smoking.. need I go on?

Yes from standard vapes! It's called "popcorn lung" I believe. You're basically putting additional fluid on your lungs, it's really bad.

@HalloumiGeller popcorn lung isn't a thing. The chemical that caused it is banned in vapes here

www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/vaping-myths-and-the-facts/#:~:text=Myth%207%3A%20Vaping%20causes%20'popcorn%20lung'&text=Vaping%20does%20not%20cause%20%22popcorn,diacetyl)%20used%20to%20flavour%20popcorn.

House! 😂

Popcorn Lung:

2000 - case study on eight workers in a popcorn factory who developed severe respiratory illness (bronchiolitis obliterans). A correlation is found with their exposure to high levels of diacetyl in popcorn flavourings. A causative mechanism is neither sought nor found and no other potential correlations, e.g. with other ingredients in popcorn flavourings, are discussed.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa020300

2015 - study finds diacetyl in some but not all eliquids and cites earlier 'popcorn lung' study. The authors fail to mention the fact that cigarettes contain 750 times the amount of diacetyl as vapes, or the fact that our hospitals are not stuffed full of smokers with 'popcorn lung'.

https://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/12/new-study-finds-that-average-diacetyl.html

Out of an abundance of caution, since May 2016 when the TPD was made part of UK law, there has been no diacetyl in any legally sold eliquid in the UK or EU.

Do you think Public Health England was made up of avid vapers?

Considering you seem to jump on to every anti-vape thread to defend it I think my point has been proven. Public Health England aren’t here commenting, you are.

Really sets my asthma off so hate it. People seem more ignorant that they did with cigarettes. Cigarettes do the same. Child's school is full of them and school try and catch kids vaping but they always find hiding places. Horrible things.

Apparently they get hold of them online somehow. I hope they get on top of it. Problem is because of it containing nicotine they will feel the after effects of addiction if/when they stop. Hopefully they put a service in to support the children with this.

I agree OP. Last year I went to the cinema and returned home with a horrendous headache as someone was vaping, releasing a sickly sweet odour. I did report to staff members but they couldn’t see who was vaping so didn’t do anything. Vapours are like how smokers used to be - as it’s seen as not harmful, they will vape anywhere.

I’m also a teacher and agree what vaping is out of control.

I've just recently started vaping to help quit smoking. Must admit it's been great on that front with no cigarettes for 2 weeks. I'm careful not to suck on it constantly and make sure I go outside to vape and always stand away from other people (like I did when I was smoking cigarettes). I basically treat it like it's a cigarette and take care to watch where I'm doing it.

Not everyone who vapes is inconsiderate.