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10 year old won’t stop crying

236 replies

Mimikyuu · 21/01/2024 21:39

My 10 year old won’t stop crying because I’m going away for a few days. It’s gotten to a point now where I’m just annoyed by it and struggling to muster sympathy.

Any idea on how to calm this sort of anxiety? She’s been crying for a week and I leave next week for 3 days. She will be here with her dad and brother.

OP posts:
Lianna077 · 22/01/2024 09:22

Shania7788 · 22/01/2024 00:23

Please reassure her, don’t just ignore her or let her see your frustration. I went through a phase of being very upset when my mum went away (don’t know why now but maybe I did at the time, I wasn’t being abused) but not as extreme as this. I remember how gut-wrenched and anxious I felt about it, so to be crying a week in advance must be so hard for your daughter to deal with, she’s still only young. If you are not a very warm family perhaps someone like a teacher could talk to her about it as she might need help to verbalise what she’s feeling/afraid of

This.

I’ve posted about my experience before but I remember the intense and terrifying anxiety I had aged 8/9 whenever my parents went out. I realised later as an adult that it was because I thought I would have to live with my grandparents if anything happened to my parents. My grandmother never liked me and always openly showed preference for my older brother. The feelings were just so awful; I couldn’t control them, I still remember the terror now and the intense anxiety and panic. Please be patient with your daughter because showing frustration is likely to make it worse.

ManateeFair · 22/01/2024 09:24

Mimikyuu · 21/01/2024 22:53

She thinks I’m going away for work.

It sounds to me as if she's overheard or guessed something about the surgery and is scared to ask about it.

Kingsleadhat · 22/01/2024 09:24

I don't know if this will help but I was advised by a psychologist that children with separation anxiety need to be reassured that you will keep them in mind so get a photo of the child to take with you. Also give something of yours for them to keep safe for you for when you get home. Good luck

Thisisanothertime · 22/01/2024 09:26

It really depends on the nature of the surgery - dh had a hernia op we just told the kids he needed a little operation to fix his belly showed them the hernia etc.

If however there it was an uncertain outcome maybe they were looking into cancer possibility or maybe it wasnt certain if more would be needed yet i dont think we would have told the kids at that time.

it is almost certainly the case that your dd has picked up that more is going on so depending on the operation it may be time to have a more adult conversation with her.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 22/01/2024 09:28

I’d have lost my shit and told her to get a grip long ago OP. Hope the surgery goes well x

TooOldForThisNonsense · 22/01/2024 09:29

TooOldForThisNonsense · 22/01/2024 09:28

I’d have lost my shit and told her to get a grip long ago OP. Hope the surgery goes well x

Not that I particularly think that’s the best course of action, but equally nor is pandering to her or indulging her. She’s 10, not a toddler

Toooldtocareanymore · 22/01/2024 09:33

I've done a fair bit of travel for work over the years, mostly fine with kids but sometimes they went through a phase where they worried about it -with my daughter when she got upset i'd tell her to go find me a lovely picture of her to put in my bag, so i could see her face last thing at night , this seems to reassure her, and she would have a photo of me, or go colour me a picture for my handbag- just gave her tasks to do when she was getting anxious, the photos seemed to really help her , she was younger though so i think part of anxiety was i'd forget her, and she also made her grandparents travel with her photo in their case. As she got a bit older i'm afraid the solution was bribery when she got upset i turned conversation to what she wanted me to bring her home

Katiesaidthat · 22/01/2024 09:40

Kingsleadhat · 22/01/2024 09:24

I don't know if this will help but I was advised by a psychologist that children with separation anxiety need to be reassured that you will keep them in mind so get a photo of the child to take with you. Also give something of yours for them to keep safe for you for when you get home. Good luck

This is such a good idea. My five year old actually fetched a framed picture of herself and put it in my suitcase, "so I could remember her". She seemed to find it comforting and I loved having her pic in my hotel room! :-)

parietal · 22/01/2024 09:49

i've travelled a lot for work and my kids didn't like that. I now have a calendar up on the fridge and I clearly mark the days I'll be away. even from age 5, they could see the calendar and count that it was 3 sleeps until mum goes away, or 4 sleeps until she comes back. Having a timetable and confidence that the adults will stick to the timetable definitely helped them.

I'd do lots of reassurance but ignore the crying and moaning.

can you get a library book about a child whose parent goes away and comes back? even ones for younger kids.

there is a very funny one called "Fortunately the milk" which is for 10yr olds where the mum goes away to the conference at the Dad does all sorts of silly things.

Dancingonthemoonlight · 22/01/2024 09:55

Daughter has obvious separation anxiety - mumsnet poster's: Dad and brother are obviously perverts who SA the girl 🤨

What a god damn reach

elliejjtiny · 22/01/2024 10:00

I understand OP, my 9 year old son is the same. He has autism and really doesn't like change.

bombardelli · 22/01/2024 10:05

Hope the surgery goes well Flowers

I think I would be firm with her rather than placatory.

And this is a sign that you need to make her more resilient by having time away from her more often, e.g. a weekend with friends.

My mum went away for a month once when I was 8. We were absolutely fine with dad and siblings.

Cerealkiller4U · 22/01/2024 10:14

spicedlemonpie · 21/01/2024 22:18

This is in no way saying that this is happening to your child but please please talk to her let her know you believe her.
If she is really upset take her with you if need be.
Please investegate its probably nothing and she is playing up.

Please please talk to her believe what she says i say this because i was the same as was my sisters and my mother would not listen to us just fobbed us off told us off ect.
And she would go for days away and leave us with our step dad for days.
We were abused badly until i ran away at 14 truth came out mother took his side.
It ruined us and our childhood.
I was only 9 sisters was 11-12.

Oh good lord. Hope you’re ok now?

CanINapNow · 22/01/2024 10:16

I was like this as a child, even though my mum worked full time. I think her ignoring it was the worst thing! The older I got, the more we’d talk about my separation anxiety and she’d be calm and reassuring. We’d agree when we’d speak on the phone etc and I always felt much better. Hope she feels better soon OP and good luck for your surgery xx

Cerealkiller4U · 22/01/2024 10:18

My daughter is the same. But she’s had therapy for it and we know why now. She’s terrified I’m going to die….. I’ve had lots of medical emergencies and she thinks she’s has to stay with me otherwise I’m going to die.

however it’s a long process. Just to this point alone has been 2 years and sadly it’s something that will take years to overcome.

I tend to not go away. I want my child to feel completely safe and know that I won’t leave her unless I have too. I know it won’t go on forever and whilst it’s hard because sometimes me and my husband would like to go away etc….I just have to agree or for us that one day it will change. I chose to have children so I chose to accept what happens happens.

Chris002 · 22/01/2024 10:20

I guess she just loves you and cares about you - and wants to know why you are not there - perhaps might be better to tell her than you have to have some treatment done but not go into detail as you say it would freak her out even more you dont have say you are having surgery - at ten I guess she is old enough to understand, rather than telling her you are working.
If you say you are working then she probably thinks if I kick off enough mum will back down and stay home - if you tell her it is important and you have to have some medical treatment and that you have not option but to go yourself but you don't want to go. Then leave it to dad to reassure her while you are away.

Toastcrumbsinsofa · 22/01/2024 10:28

I’m afraid this would also annoy me. In your situation, I’d be secretly looking forward to a break from her!

kisstheblarney · 22/01/2024 10:31

Chris002 · 22/01/2024 10:20

I guess she just loves you and cares about you - and wants to know why you are not there - perhaps might be better to tell her than you have to have some treatment done but not go into detail as you say it would freak her out even more you dont have say you are having surgery - at ten I guess she is old enough to understand, rather than telling her you are working.
If you say you are working then she probably thinks if I kick off enough mum will back down and stay home - if you tell her it is important and you have to have some medical treatment and that you have not option but to go yourself but you don't want to go. Then leave it to dad to reassure her while you are away.

Well she needs to learn that if mum is going for

Work
A jolly
Surgery

It's irrelevant, it doesn't have to be a necessity to go away, OP can go because she wants to!

I think saying I "have" too, because it's surgery, is giving the wrong message.

Mariposistaaa · 22/01/2024 10:39

TooOldForThisNonsense · 22/01/2024 09:29

Not that I particularly think that’s the best course of action, but equally nor is pandering to her or indulging her. She’s 10, not a toddler

@TooOldForThisNonsense I’m afraid I am inclined to agree. I can’t stand crybabies. Although if a kid is genuinely upset we discuss it but a week of sniveling over (what she believes is) a work trip for 3 days is intolerable.

diddl · 22/01/2024 10:45

I know the reason is likely that my husband is a bit stricter than I am and makes her keep on top of her room etc where as I’m a little more lax. That’s why she doesn’t like it when I’m not around.

Wow!

It's only for a few days!

That's one hell of an overreaction if it is the reason.

EmilyTjP · 22/01/2024 10:45

Dancingonthemoonlight · 22/01/2024 09:55

Daughter has obvious separation anxiety - mumsnet poster's: Dad and brother are obviously perverts who SA the girl 🤨

What a god damn reach

Insane isn’t it!

bombardelli · 22/01/2024 10:48

Mimikyuu · 22/01/2024 06:39

I’m not telling her about the surgery. She doesn’t know as there has been no opportunity where it’s been discussed for her to overhear anything.

I know the reason is likely that my husband is a bit stricter than I am and makes her keep on top of her room etc where as I’m a little more lax. That’s why she doesn’t like it when I’m not around.

And I do go out, to the pp who said I reminded her of her mum who never went out. I go out regularly and I also work full time.

Ugh that would make me have even less sympathy for her, no wonder you're irritated.

I think this is a sign that you and DH need to be aligned on approach with her.

If he asks her to tidy her room or vice versa you should back eachother up.

ChizzleMeNizzzle · 22/01/2024 10:49

worrywilma · 21/01/2024 22:52

Fucking hell. what has the world come to, when's mum asks a parenting forum for advice on her anxious daughter, next news, people are insinuating her husband and/or son are perverts!

And before I get piled on, yes I'm aware of the signs of sexual abuse. I live it.

Absolutely!! Some of the posters on here are fucking nasty pieces of work. Makes by blood boil, grim.

Quartz2208 · 22/01/2024 10:53

If you go out regularly and you work full time and she is fine then and isn’t now then the likelihood is that she is aware that something is right and reacting to it - that is why the truth is so important.

you don’t pander or indulge anxiety and you certainly don’t tell someone with it to get a grip either. It is clear that some have never dealt with anxiety either themselves or someone else.

that is why telling the truth and been clear is important, setting out what is going to happen and keeping her in the loop

Chris002 · 22/01/2024 10:53

kisstheblarney · 22/01/2024 10:31

Well she needs to learn that if mum is going for

Work
A jolly
Surgery

It's irrelevant, it doesn't have to be a necessity to go away, OP can go because she wants to!

I think saying I "have" too, because it's surgery, is giving the wrong message.

You misread what I wrote there -
I said that she DIDNT have to say it was surgery ( op said if she told her it was surgery it would freak her out more )