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DH often suppresses a laugh when I'm being serious

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Anonin · 21/01/2024 21:05

Hello,

Maybe I'm overtired and touchy, but tonight I blew a fuse because DH suppressed a laugh when I tried to show him some martial arts movements that I learned as a kid, and not for the first time either. We've been married for more than a decade, and I've never been able to show him the movements in full, because the few times I did, he always laughed and then said that he suddenly thought of something funny which had nothing to do with me.

A few years back I was also very angry, because I was talking about something serious and personal, and he was suppressing a laugh all the way through, and, when I got angry, he said it wasn't me, he just thought of something funny. This happens times and again too, only sometimes I just let it go, but sometimes I was extremely vexed, depending on my mood.

I find this so childish. He made me feel ridiculous and regret confiding something I cherish with him. I believe him when he said that he wasn't making fun of me, but I'm furious that he cannot control himself to behave like a normal person would when others are being earnest. Particularly when I was talking passionately, this would be a moment that he often thought of "something funny". DH doesn't have friends, was bullied at school, and his siblings are all the same.

DH helped a lot with the baby, so I can't say he's a bad spouse, but tonight I feel so resentful that I almost wanted to book a plane ticket for me and my baby to my dad's place and leave him alone for a while.

AIBU? What would you do in my position?

OP posts:
ADoggyDogWorld · 22/01/2024 11:22

EmmaEmerald · 22/01/2024 11:07

“The fact that this also holds ethnic and cultural significance due to your heritage changes things”

actually even if you remove this factor

the post says “my husband repeatedly laughs when I tell him about things that are important to me”. Which is awful.

decent people don’t even need the added context. Tbh I pulled it out because someone said “cultural appropriation” which is my biggest eye roll.

I am British btw but a lot of people don’t accept that on account of my skin colour.

Edited

Such a good post.

People will ignore in favour of poking fun at a woman who is mocked when she tries to talk to her husband about things that are important to her.

Carry on poking fun, people, if you don't care that your racism is showing.

FarmGirl78 · 22/01/2024 11:36

You've said that in addition to this he also made you angry "a few years back". If the last thing he to make you angry was a few years ago I think most people on the planet who are in a relationship would gladly trade places with you.

janeintheframe · 22/01/2024 11:39

ShoePalaver · 22/01/2024 10:06

Most Scots are quite proud of being Scottish. Imagine that every time you wanted to talk about aspects of being Scottish, your husband started sniggering.
Or another example, imagine you played the bagpipes to a high standard and had learned from ancestors now deceased. You now want to tell your child about this aspect of your heritage but your husband keeps sniggering.

People are deliberately misunderstanding the OP and that is racist.

I don’t agree with you at all. Talking about bagpipes and laughing, not ok. Someone gets the bagpipes out and gives a rendition in their living room, and the other person laughs, highly likely it’s a bit squeaky and comical. Even if you once played to a high standard as a kid.

some things just are funny. My husband is Scottish, if he got the bag pipes out as he used to play as a kid there is every chance I’d laugh.

i very much doubt her husband is a racist. But she can clarify that.

NotQuiteNorma · 22/01/2024 11:39

Could it be Henry, the mild mannered janitor? Could be!!

Anonin · 22/01/2024 13:24

financialcareerstuff · 22/01/2024 10:37

Some of the ignorance around more authentic martial arts, and the tradition of them being passed orally through generations, is stunning, and yes, I think the mockery definitely has a racist tinge.

The best equivalent I can think of that people might understand is having specific recipes passed on through generations, for example in Italy. When your great gran spent time in the kitchen with your gran, teaching her as a child. then next generation, then next....Even if you only cook one or two of these dishes occasionally, they are a powerful connection to family, and it matters..... especially if your family moved country, and it is a way of staying connected to the authentic traditions of previous generations.

Having people deride this, and say you should learn to cook properly by going down to the local Dominos pizza joint is ridiculous.

@financialcareerstuff Thanks, excellent example. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Also thanks to others who give reasonable answers. Sorry I can't reply one by one and can only hit the thanks button.

As for the mocking ones, it's very amusing reading them and learning a bit more about our society 😄.

OP posts:
Ktime · 22/01/2024 13:27

Anonin · 22/01/2024 09:35

@NewbieSM I am ethnically Chinese growing up in Southeast Asia. I didn't explain eveeything in my posts (too long), but there aren't classes around here that teach these moves. When I was in SEA I did take extra classes, and bc the moves my dad taught me was considered unique, I was often asked to exhibit it at school. But I moved to Europe after high school, and just practiced it myself since.

It's unfortunate I cited the martial arts example, right? I did bc it was the most recent example. Some kind users told me to delete the post, but I'll just let it be, I'm used to be laughed at 😄.

DH always apologised profusely, and he does help a lot around the house and with the baby, but sometimes he just ticked me off.

This should have been in your Op.

A white person going to SE Asia to learn martial arts is going to bring up memories of Karate Kid and Kill Bill for people. Entirely different if you’re from the region.

Anonin · 22/01/2024 13:33

@Ktime Perhaps, but at first I think it's just beside the point, since my post is about DH sniggering often when I talk about or do something I'm passionate about. The martial arts is just an example. That the majority of MN community going bonkers just bc of that example wasn't something I could have predicted 😁, but then we learn something new every day.

OP posts:
StrongasSixpence · 22/01/2024 13:38

janeintheframe · 21/01/2024 21:56

Is shaolin , kung fu? Were you pulling fighter poses in the lounge?

Posts like this are explicitly racist. Mocking something you have zero clue about outside of a Carl Douglas song.

Yes Shaolin is kung-fu (or wushu). No its not something to therefore laugh at or be inherently comical. It's a cultural and spiritual tradition with a long history in China and other parts of the world. Important enough to Chinese culture that it was brutally suppressed during the Cultural Revolution.

There are many different schools, ways and traditions relating to different regions and masters. It's very normal to have particular teachings going down families and OP would have to have been very good to be invited to demonstrate at her school in China.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 22/01/2024 13:40

Potatohigh · 21/01/2024 22:04

A part of you?

I'm going to bow out now because I think in your Ernestness your missing lots of the context of how this is practiced. this completely screams of mu grandad had a gap year 60 years ago and we consider ourselves cultural experts 3 generations later despite us all having no connection with anyone else

Yes, absolutely this

Geraldneedsasecondclassstamp · 22/01/2024 13:42

@Anonin

You're a good sport OP x

janeintheframe · 22/01/2024 14:15

StrongasSixpence · 22/01/2024 13:38

Posts like this are explicitly racist. Mocking something you have zero clue about outside of a Carl Douglas song.

Yes Shaolin is kung-fu (or wushu). No its not something to therefore laugh at or be inherently comical. It's a cultural and spiritual tradition with a long history in China and other parts of the world. Important enough to Chinese culture that it was brutally suppressed during the Cultural Revolution.

There are many different schools, ways and traditions relating to different regions and masters. It's very normal to have particular teachings going down families and OP would have to have been very good to be invited to demonstrate at her school in China.

You don’t know my ethnicity and are barking up the wrong tree.

StrongasSixpence · 22/01/2024 14:31

Then why take the piss out of OP for engaging with her cultural heritage?

Bex5490 · 22/01/2024 15:15

This is definitely a difference in culture. For the majority of us Brits, taking the piss out of each other is how we’ve been brought up. I think that’s why most on this thread would expect any type of public dancing, singing or performing to be met with a laugh.

Unless someone is good enough at something for it to be really impressive, most British people’s first instinct will be to mock…

Shodan · 22/01/2024 17:15

Bex5490 · 22/01/2024 15:15

This is definitely a difference in culture. For the majority of us Brits, taking the piss out of each other is how we’ve been brought up. I think that’s why most on this thread would expect any type of public dancing, singing or performing to be met with a laugh.

Unless someone is good enough at something for it to be really impressive, most British people’s first instinct will be to mock…

Strongly disagree.

I was brought up to encourage and support my loved ones in the things they were passionate about, not mock and belittle them.

In fact, watching my older brother do kata in the hall at home was one of the reasons I took up karate in the first place. It inspired a passion that continues to this day.

I do feel sorry for people who have no such passion in their lives- perhaps that's why they feel the need to try and humiliate those who do.

DerekFaker · 22/01/2024 17:22

Shodan · 22/01/2024 17:15

Strongly disagree.

I was brought up to encourage and support my loved ones in the things they were passionate about, not mock and belittle them.

In fact, watching my older brother do kata in the hall at home was one of the reasons I took up karate in the first place. It inspired a passion that continues to this day.

I do feel sorry for people who have no such passion in their lives- perhaps that's why they feel the need to try and humiliate those who do.

Totally agree.

Bex5490 · 22/01/2024 18:46

Shodan · 22/01/2024 17:15

Strongly disagree.

I was brought up to encourage and support my loved ones in the things they were passionate about, not mock and belittle them.

In fact, watching my older brother do kata in the hall at home was one of the reasons I took up karate in the first place. It inspired a passion that continues to this day.

I do feel sorry for people who have no such passion in their lives- perhaps that's why they feel the need to try and humiliate those who do.

Fair enough - I too was brought up in a loving family with a range of passions that we enjoy and encourage and slightly resent the insinuation that just because we enjoy taking the piss a bit we must lead passionless miserable lives!

Wellhellooooodear · 22/01/2024 18:57

If I started doing martial arts moves in front of DH he wouldn't suppress a laugh, he'd full on piss himself laughing and I'd get a heavy mocking! We are a couple of piss takers though.

trippily · 22/01/2024 19:00

Bumblebeestiltskin · 22/01/2024 13:40

Yes, absolutely this

Did you miss the part where she is ethnically Chinese? I agree if she were white it would have these connotations but she isn't.

Drosera · 22/01/2024 19:18

AMuser · 21/01/2024 21:07

Sorry but I’d snigger if someone tried to show me some martial arts moves they learned as a child 😂

perhaps it’s you who is overly serious?

I'm inclined to agree. It does sound funny. 😂

Cattymonster · 22/01/2024 20:12

Anonin · 21/01/2024 21:55

@janeintheframe Because, as he said, he suddenly thought of something funny. That's why I was vexed, because somehow he always thought of something funny when I was being passionate, whatever the topic is.

It's possible that what you were saying did just strike him as funny in some way - could have been the subject, the words you used, the way you described it or basically anything - but he didn't want to hurt your feelings and so pretended that something unrelated had come into his head.

You do sound rather earnest and serious, OP. Some people are, and of course that's okay, but serious/earnest/passionate conversations can lead to a build-up of tension, which can sometimes find a sudden release in giggles.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 22/01/2024 22:00

trippily · 22/01/2024 19:00

Did you miss the part where she is ethnically Chinese? I agree if she were white it would have these connotations but she isn't.

I did, yes, sorry!

Boomboom22 · 22/01/2024 22:56

Does everyone here openly mock all other cultural traditions?
What about confession? Through a curtain / door to a priest? Hahaha how ridiculous.
Or reincarnation to a Buddhist, do you just laugh and stamp on insects to be funny.
Or is it only martial arts that's funny? The gap Yr comment was appalling. If you do yoga that's a spiritual meditative process that we've commercialised. That's actual appropriation.

Potatohigh · 22/01/2024 23:04

Boomboom22 · 22/01/2024 22:56

Does everyone here openly mock all other cultural traditions?
What about confession? Through a curtain / door to a priest? Hahaha how ridiculous.
Or reincarnation to a Buddhist, do you just laugh and stamp on insects to be funny.
Or is it only martial arts that's funny? The gap Yr comment was appalling. If you do yoga that's a spiritual meditative process that we've commercialised. That's actual appropriation.

It was me that commented it and you can can see that I asked prior to this if it was culturally significant and if she was part of that culture (which she responded to without this later relevant bit of info)

It is also culturally significant to me, and this is a very unusual way of practicing which meant I assumed from the lack of response that it wasn't from someone familiar with the cultural significance and had plucked it out from its context.

Drosera · 22/01/2024 23:07

Boomboom22 · 22/01/2024 22:56

Does everyone here openly mock all other cultural traditions?
What about confession? Through a curtain / door to a priest? Hahaha how ridiculous.
Or reincarnation to a Buddhist, do you just laugh and stamp on insects to be funny.
Or is it only martial arts that's funny? The gap Yr comment was appalling. If you do yoga that's a spiritual meditative process that we've commercialised. That's actual appropriation.

I think people are being a bit precious tbh.

My friend is into yoga, chakras, meditation etc. One day she put a metal bowl on her head and started dinging it.😂 Completely straight-facedly. I found it absolutely hilarious and I think most people would have struggled to suppress a chuckle.

Boomboom22 · 22/01/2024 23:08

Passing down through families is fairly traditional. Probably more so than paid lessons once a week in the UK. Not that I'm saying you are, you get the general point I mean.

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