To never ever buy from Snag again?

[NotMyTights]

I'm just beyond disgusted and feel I need to vent.

I've always liked snag tights. I bought vouchers to save them in Lockdown, have spent hundreds with them. Liked their products and ethos- inclusive and female led.

Yesterday I went on their website, can definitely say it's my fault that I clicked on their NSFW collection, but I didn't expect what I found. Patches saying ' chke me' and 'cMSL*t'. Maybe I'm just a pearl clutching prude but I found these really offensive and not what I expect from a company with their ethos. I've put a pic below.

I posted in their Facebook group which I'm on highlighting that I thought this was a misjudgement on their part, that these were very misogynistic, and fed into a culture of violence against women which claims the life of a woman or girl every 11 minutes.

They declined my post and sent me a reply which I'll attach- I'm kink shaming apparently.

I find this really reprehensible and never want to spend a penny with them again!

I never thought I was prudish, whatever adults do between themselves is up to them, but I don't really want to buy from a clothing provider who is promoting this- aibu!?

The tights are designed for body shape, height and size.

https://wecantconsenttothis.uk/

This normalisation of sexual strangulation, that it is common, standard even, is massively problematic. It is not something that anyone should consider as anything other than incredibly dangerous.

https://wecantconsenttothis.uk/i-thought-it-was-normal-research

Won't be buying from them anymore. I used to feel they were a safe space for women of any shape and size wanting to look their best and have comfort. They seemed like a fun company that didn't care about the over sexualised "norms" but this language is so derogatory. Its violence against women. Its objectiying.

Ergh I'm so tired of living in a world that's entirely under the male gaze.

Where are the patches for men? Where's sissy or cuckold husband or any of the derogatory pornified terms for men?

I think there are a few things to consider here

OP for some reason went to their NSFW page which, from the opening page, is pretty obvious its not for the run of the mill tights. The NSFW site is not lined to their main website. You have to google it specifically.

Then clicked on 'Sexy Makers Market'.

Then scrolled all the way to the bottom to find some BDSM pins, and in pure outrage has come to Mumsnet where instead of having an intelligent conversation about kinks, normalisation of violence versus reclaiming words etc, we have instead been treated to lots of casual transphobia 'Lady dicks', some good ol fashion fat shaming and some total hyperbole where apparently now the whole site is male models with their dicks out and Snag are changing the tights to fit men and not women.

Please. PLEASE. A pinch of common sense for the love of god.

It isn’t possible to consent to being killed. You need to explain the difference between those occasions where a woman says “choke me” and survives, and where a man claims a woman said “choke me” but she dies.

@Bibbidybobbidyroo

Please. PLEASE. A pinch of common sense for the love of god

Common sense tells me that a company that responds to a woman's concerns about the objectification of women and the dangers of choking in the way Snag did to the OP is not a company that I, as a woman, would wish to purchase from when there are alternatives non anti-woman brands available.

Can someone kindly tell me what is so wrong with kink shaming?

Because what consenting adults do is none of your business?

Because where do we draw the line in policing adult activities?

No I don't. You need to explain why you can't fathom the obvious difference

Because what consenting adults do is none of your business

Completely agree but why, oh why, do some people and companies want to MAKE it our business?

That's what people are objecting to. What consenting adults do is up to them. Snag is making badges to promote an activity which is harmful to women and girls. As a company that markets products to women that is a risky strategy. Women should not be expected to think its a good thing to promote strangulation of other women.

When peoples sex drive overrides their common sense maybe? If your friend died from being choked would you want their partner to be held accountable? Or the case of the men who chopped off a man's penis, leg and nipple with his consent for pay per view, is that actually consent is that assault would that have been murder had he died? Armen Meiwes was a German cannibal who found a willing victim, they initially argued consent was given so he wasn't convicted essentially legalising murder, then he did it again...

Where's the line?

That said I agree in principle what happens between adults is their business. But this company has made it out business.

Snag tights hate women. They use men to advertise their wares.

Men can wear tights and historically have worn tights. I see nothing wrong with men advertising their products.

@baubletits

some WOMEN have a choking kink.
are they not allowed to now?

your sister’s partner is irrelevant here because obviously kinks are ok between TWO consenting adults, and your sister wasn’t into this hence was not a consenting participant.

some WOMEN have a choking kink.
Some women are stupid

I mean thats an interesting example, because laws still exist. They broke the law with those acts. But true, some things do not exist in a vacuem.

I dont know see how Snag made it our business by having a separate website - Ann Summers also sells BDSM equipment. Did they make it our business too? What one woman may find totally acceptable, another wont. And thats completely right and her choice if she then decides that brand is not for her.

Maybe they do. But do they need to advertise to everyone with badges?

Would you want your child to ask you what a cum slut was because they'd read it on a badge stuck to someone's bag?

Do what you fucking like in private. I don't need to know about it. I don't care about it. Woohoo, you have sex. So edgy and different. Guess how you were conceived. 🙄

I can't find what you are talking about anywhere on their website?

Ok so these aren't on their normal website but a completely separate website that's literally called nsfw and these aren't even made by snag but in their 'makers market'. It's not pushing anything down anyones throat you have literally gone onto a kink website shop 🤣

And their partners need to step up and say "not on my watch"

I might sort out my arse acne if I was going to model g-strings. Just saying.

We aren't talking about "kinks", we are talking about perversions. Pushing perversion as normal.

Is this company connected to Popsy? Some of their marketing methods found similar.

I think the normalising of choking is a horrible thing. There can't be much profit in them even. You couldn't possibly wear these patches in public.

Who decides what is kink and what is perversion?

I guess customers do.
Is Snag profitable?