Should i have invited my brother to a girls weekend away?

[NatMoz]

It is both my mum's 70th and my aunty's 60th in March/April.

My brother had made 0 plans and his only idea was a Chinese. I said that I'll book a girls long weekend away (myself, mum and aunty) to make it memorable and he can be in charge of the inclusive family meal where everyone will be invited to celebrate which he agreed to.

So I've planned, booked, organised an itinerary for a long weekend European city break for the 3 of us for a girls weekend. My brother is now absolutely hounding me because he has decided he would also like to join in on the girls weekend. Telling me he doesn't mind carrying the bags and is there room for a little one. I explained it would spoil the dynamic of the trip and at 31 why would he want to spend a girls weekend with us anyway🤣. He is already going on holiday with my mum and dad for 10 days in June to Greece so it's not like he's missing out on going abroad and spending time with my parents! He lives at home so spends every day with them so again it's not like he lives on the other side of the world.

He explained he hasn't been on holiday with my aunty in 10 years. The last time he did, i organised that trip too!!! I did say if he felt so strongly about it, why has he not organised something prior to this point as there have been 10 years of opportunities.

I've now been told I'm banned from the family meal he is organising 🤷.

To clarify further, my husband, my dad nor my daughter (aged 2) will be attending this weekend away either. Just myself, mum and aunty.

Am i in the wrong here?

That's the least if it I'm afraid. By excluding him, the OP is giving men permission to exclude women from all male dominated spheres of power and influence, governments, boardrooms and sports the world over. (Which would be a major concern if men actually needed permission to do that.)

It really is a scenario of boundless consequences.

What stranger do people want included on the trip?

The brother is a stranger to the posters arguing on his behalf. And a stranger about whom they've not heard anything to suggest he would be a good or deserving trip companion. Hence their enthusiasm for him being included is a little odd.

Indeed. In fact, DD, DiL and I are planning a trip this spring. I now feel I'd be irresponsible not to force DP and DS join us.

He is a stranger to the people arguing against him too, as is OP.

this thread is so odd

not the OP, i lost the will with all that early on

but the commitment that a handful of posters have poured in to fighting about this.

Of course. But all we can do is consider the little glimpse into people's lives that OPs offer us. Which in this case is a brother who hasn't organised anything and is now trying to pressure women to allow him to join them on a trip they don't want him on. That seems to me something most people would generally argue against.

He is trying to pressure OP, but I don't think he has pressurised anyone else. Maybe he doesn't think that his mother and aunt would prefer it if he wasn't there.

I really REALLY think they need to be included.

Clearly if you don’t force them to go with you they will become women hating ignorami who have panic attacks if they accidentally wander into the tampon isle In Tesco.

You're probably right. In fairness to him, I except he thinks his mum would love him to be there. According to the OP, he's wrong though.

Well maybe it’s time he realised that his mum doesn’t have to want him everywhere with her all the time… what with him being 31 years old and all.

Don't worry. It's done. 'Men,' I said 'You are coming to Barcelona in April where you will be engaging in 'gender neutral' activity and talking about my menopause. No arguments please Nigel, the war for equality won't fight itself!'

you’ve rinsed that joke now @5128gap
Surely you can’t get any more mileage out of the weekend you’ve booked away with your DD and DIL??

@5128gap was replying directly to me, with a response to a joke I made. Sorry, I didn’t realise there was time limit on my conversations with posters.

Yes- but the people arguing against him are simply saying "Why shouldn't women enjoy a weekend in the company of other women without being criticised for it? Are women not allowed to choose their own holiday/ travelling companions?"

Whereas those arguing for him as saying "You are soooo mean! That poor man! All on his own when all he wants to do is dominate the weekend with his male entitlement spend some quality time with his mummy and auntie and his nasty sister won't let him because she is jealous. He could carry their feminine hygiene products shopping and learn all about menstruation. He will be all on his own otherwise with only his daddy and his uncle to look after him."

So we have a genuine comment vs over-emotional manipulative false arguments.

It will be Father Ted and the Biggest Lingerie Section in Ireland all over again.

CALAMITY! 😧

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