To think it's tragic if Michael Jackson was indeed innocent

[pregahes]

It's a real shame for someone who created incredible music to have their legacy at risk. It’s just tragic, considering the impact his music had on so many. It's tragic either way, if he's guilty for the victims and if he's innocent for himself.

I'm a huge fan and at one point t thought he was guilty but kore recently change of heart. I think there would be more victims if he weee in fact guilty. Somethings doesnt add up.

It's tragic

Yes @pregahes can I ask you even if you think he’s innocent, he did all of the above. He befriended little boys and discarded them for a new friend when they hit a certain age. They slept in his bed and treated him like a boyfriend.

What do you think of that behaviour?

MJ was a paedophile. Its OK to still like his music, but there's no getting away from the fact he was a paedophile who groomed his child victims, their families and his fans.

Well Jacko settled so I’d suggest there was evidence.

There are testimonies from boys going back to the 70’s of MJ wanking over the phone, before he invited children in to his bed. The blind don’t want to see.

And how many of the 8 boys actually made any money from their accusations?

Think about it - a 12yo concocting a graphic and detailed story of abuse so their parent could have a payday? PR a man who openly grooms little boys in public and sleeps with them in his bed, being a pedophile?
What’s more likely?

I had completely forgotten this tbh. Funny how memory works...or in my case, doesn't!

Well yeah if he was innocent then it would be tragic...but if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike 😂

@KarenNotAKaren
1- the children have adult parents
2 - these particular men are adults
3 - if you believe the evidence is strong, I don't have to deny that money can be a motivating factor. Denying it is silly.

That's all, really.

I never said they made anything up or expressed any opinion whatsoever.

@TheaBrandt which one leavingneverland?

Wtf??? There's so so many victims! They haven't all been as vocal, but there are so many more... have you watched the documentary on netflix about his victims and him? I highly recommend it if you haven't.🤗🤗

Which part didn’t you find compelling? Were the victims not victimy enough for you?

Plus having Macauley as a positive spokesperson with the platform to say “I never saw any wrong doing” and be heard - MJ creates the perfect dupe.

He was a dirty rotten filthy Paedophile .

A lot of people who support him dont understand grooming. It makes you love your abuser and believe what they are doing is not wrong. It's really hard to see it as abuse when you are the abused, you will lie to get rid of thr "bad" people who want to hurt the one you love.

There's also a video of one of the LaToya in the 90s on tv heavily insinuating an inappropriate relationship with one of the boys from the documentay (i think safechuck). What a massive coincidence that she would make up a random lie, then the person who thr lie was about would also claim thr same "lie" 30 years later.. or.....

(The interview is her saying that she saw the boy's parents being paid off, it's pretty clear what she's saying).

His behaviour was widely recognised in the 90s, it's been downplayed since his death.

Erm, Jackson literally paraded his little boy friends around and admitted to sleeping in bed with them. He doesn’t need an accuser to claim that / we all saw it with our own eyes. There were dozens of these poor kids

How many of his 8 accusers made loads of money then?

If you don’t understand how grooming works then please don’t berate victims for not coming forward soon enough.

Thete are 8 accusers. Look them up, I posted names earlier

KarenNotAKaren

Yes,I am still of the opinion he is innocent. Just like you still believe he is guilty. It's not unheard of for people to have different opinions.

@KarenNotAKaren agree, and they were imo acting absolutely in line with how groomed people often behave and describe their appearance

@Alcyoneus so was OJ ….hmmm Johnny Cochrane.

He definitely was weird, but I'm not sure he is guilty as there were only a couple of kids and they were happy to accept money. I would think you'd not want any money from someone who did this to you.

TBH I’m always surprised when people think Jackson is innocent and I judge the fuck out of them and hope and pray they don’t have children. If you can’t spot basic safeguarding issues you can’t protect children

Judge away! Totally fine by me! Makes no difference to my life and what I have.

Calling 13yo boys gold digging cunts. nice.

Unless Culkin was present through all the victims’ time with Jackson his testimony is only relevant to him. If you were raped would you think it was relevant that another woman said “Well I’ve been around this man and he didn’t rape ME”. You wouldn’t

The nonce’s childhood was not taken from him. He had a childhood.

Also it’s weird you call little boys with compelling testimonies ‘gold digging counts’ but off the word of one man (a known liar) you’re happy to believe Joe Jackson was abusive. So Michael Jackson, a profiling liar, is to be believed but not the 8 boys who’ve accused Jackson?

Have you heard of the term cognitive dissonance?

No amount of money would be able to pay me off.

I heard he was set up and murdered because he was going to expose Hollywood.

That's not beyond the realms of possibility imo.

Do some basic research rather than rehash crap spouted in the tabloids.

Yep! Consider that Jackson was smart enough to not sexually abuse the famous boy.

Not every rapist rapes every woman they meet after all.

Jackson was smart and knew he needed a few innocent boys on the back burner should he ever require them.