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To leave DH for these reasons?

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YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:18

Been together for 21 years. These are some of the things he’s done over the years that have led me to this point:

Found out when I was pregnant with youngest (now 13) that he was on extra-marital affair websites and was conversing with several women and arranging to meet up in hotels.
Upon me finding out he insisted nothing had ever happened and it was all titillation. Subsequently got mad at me if I brought it up and told me all the usual stuff like “we weren’t having much sex at the time” (not true). I think this was the start of when I really started to resent him and the scales fell from my eyes.

Financial abuse: I’m a sahm (I know, I know). He pays me an allowance each week for food/clothes etc. I will admit on this he’s quite generous and rarely buys things for himself. But we have no joint finances - I have absolutely no idea how much he earns (though he has told me if he was on a salary he would be in the top 2% to afford our lifestyle)
He owns £££ in assets but I am not privy to any of this information. I don’t even know who we pay our bills/mortgage to. All his paperwork is kept in his locked offices and it’s such a mess I wouldn’t know where to begin. Now we’re getting older (and after a few sudden deaths in the family) I have asked repeatedly that I’m included in financial goings-on so that I know what to do should anything happen to him. His response is to shut me down with phrases such as “the solicitors will deal with it” or “just sell everything- you’ll be fine”. His business dealings are extremely complicated, he works 12 hour days to keep up - yet he thinks il be fine with absolutely no knowledge of the business if he dies?(he’s older than me btw)

Sex: he has, I think, a porn addiction - or has in the past. I’ve caught him many times, he knows I hate it.
I believe this has ruined our sex lufe as he’s always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He has just made me take a second lot of speeding points for him bc if he takes them he’ll be banned. If I refuse he’ll say that I will then have to do all the driving and it’ll affect his work and our finances.

He loves the sound of his own voice, is a complete bore and only talks about certain subjects: the economy, the state of the country, how much he disagrees with certain things etc. I feel he is a very negative person, though he would describe himself as positive - but this is only “toxic positivity” in my view. If you are upset about something he has the attitude of “you just need to change your mindset” or “stop moping” - as a result I don’t confide in him or really even talk to him any more. It feels like if he’s not the one controlling the conversation he’s not interested.

I read things on here about people saying their partners are kind and do things like bring them a cup of tea when they’re ill or do some cleaning. He does nothing. Bc he earns the money and I don’t work, everything else is down to me. He won’t do any diy around the house and won’t pay tradesmen to do it, as a result I feel the house is falling down around our ears - it’s really stressful.

Ive been ill this week and have been getting up late as I can’t sleep and when I come down he hasn’t even fed the poor dog. If I ask him to do anything he says “later” or gets the hump.

He’s suddenly decided after 20 years of going out of the house for 12 hrs a day that he’s now working from home as he’s no need to be in the office any more. When we were younger and the dcs were small I used to sometimes beg him to take a day off if I was ill and he wouldn’t. One thing that sticks in my mind was my dd knocking herself out and I’d just had another baby and he wouldn’t come home and take the baby whilst I took her to A&E. that’s just one example - there are many other similar incidents. I’m so annoyed that now the dcs are all flying the nest or at high school he’s suddenly decided he’s staying home. It’s driving me mad. I can’t play music whilst I’m cleaning bc he’s working etc.

Im 42 so is this age-related? Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad or for the dcs sake? The thought of spending the next 30 years with him is depressing.

Ive no idea what position il be in financially if we do spilt - I’ve no money, no idea about his financial affairs and wouldn’t even have the money for a solicitor. I do know (or he’s said) that my name is on some of the properties he owns. I don’t think he’s done this to protect me but to protect himself should his business go tits up!

I could go on and on but I realise this is already very long. I don’t really know what I’m asking - maybe just to document things for my own sanity.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or knowledgable about instances like this where one partner holds all the cards?

I feel like if I divorce him il be completely at his mercy. He’s very clever in business dealings and knows how to hide things/use loopholes.

thanks to anyone who read that mammoth OP!

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Doodar · 04/01/2024 22:58

It’s really upsetting and familiar in what you’ve written op. It will cost a fortune in lawyers fees from what you’ve described, probably need forensic accountants You’ll have to get your hands on some serious money to pay the lawyers. Can you do this?
you can do the actual divorce on line now, you’ll need lawyers for the finances though.
good luck

ultimatepushyparent · 04/01/2024 22:59

Go and see a solicitor. What you need is legal advice. Only once you have some knowledge will you be able to decide what is best for you. Don't be guided by mumsnetters telling you to leave your horrible husband based on information you have provided to them in the first place. Talk to a solicitor and take advice from your best friend. Good luck. X

Epidote · 04/01/2024 22:59

OP, he is disgusting form hair to toe.
You may be in use to love him but I think he is not worthy of other minute of your life.

Bracksonsboss · 04/01/2024 23:00

Fucking hell OP. Sexual assault, financial abuse, making you break the law……..get out asap.

tachetastic · 04/01/2024 23:00

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:55

If your DH is in the habit of punching you then that is very bad indeed.

I feel I need to clarify in case I’ve made it sound worse than it is: He doesn’t punch me in the face (he does slap my face hard though sometimes) he punches my body - he doesn’t do it in anger like domestic abuse - it’s because it turns him on (as I said earlier, prob the kind of porn he watches).

I made a big deal and told him I really don’t like it he hasn’t done it for a while but I never really know if it’s coming or not. The punches have only left light bruising a few times, not black and blue or anything.

Im sorry, it’s really difficult to even write it. I know it’s not normal.

Stop it.

Stop defending him. Stop saying the punches aren't that hard really. Stop saying the bruising isn't that bad because you aren't black and blue. Stop saying it isn't domestic abuse.

It is.

snowpony · 04/01/2024 23:01

You can search companies house to find out the name of the businesses by searching on his name, which will show you all businesses current or dissolved that he has ever been associated with.

Runningincircles · 04/01/2024 23:01

Maybe go to the library and use the free WiFi/computers to look him up. At least he won't be able to see your searches on any devices.

Google his name on Companies House and get the names and public accounts of all the businesses that he is associated with.
Also, check to see if your name is associated with any of the businesses. He may well have you down as a shareholder and be paying you dividends etc. This would save him lots of tax.
Make yourself a new email address and send all the documents that you find to that email address.

Milkybarsareonmeeeee · 04/01/2024 23:02

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:55

If your DH is in the habit of punching you then that is very bad indeed.

I feel I need to clarify in case I’ve made it sound worse than it is: He doesn’t punch me in the face (he does slap my face hard though sometimes) he punches my body - he doesn’t do it in anger like domestic abuse - it’s because it turns him on (as I said earlier, prob the kind of porn he watches).

I made a big deal and told him I really don’t like it he hasn’t done it for a while but I never really know if it’s coming or not. The punches have only left light bruising a few times, not black and blue or anything.

Im sorry, it’s really difficult to even write it. I know it’s not normal.

It’s still not right .It really is shocking OP .
He should respect you and you yourself .
You have never set or been allowed to set boundaries .
How do you relax having sex anticipating a punch .

cestlavielife · 04/01/2024 23:02

It is bad, really bad. Coercive.
Do your dc like him?
Get informed, then leave.
Do not tell him anything till you safely away.

Domino20 · 04/01/2024 23:04

Walk into a police station and tell them you are the victim of domestic sexual violence and coercive control and that the perpetrator has made you take points onto your licence. While he is arressted/in custody access the office and all paperwork and apply for a non-molestation order.
In one fell swoop you will have effectively gained control of the marital home and all the information you require to proceed with a divorce.

Anothenamechange · 04/01/2024 23:04

You poor, poor woman. Please don't do anything at all without seeing a good lawyer. Start with Women's Aid, they will be able to guide you how to edit this abusive, miserable marriage safely. Because money is one thing but your life is quite another and the fact he's tried to choke you is alarming.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 04/01/2024 23:05

GlitteryDirt · 04/01/2024 21:30

You need a trigger warning on that for the sexual abuse.

You need to leave him. He's worn you down. You don't seem to see how bad he is.

Stop it. The OP is not responsible for other people's triggers. SA is mentioned on MN daily and I've never seen any trigger warnings.

wanttokickoffbutcant · 04/01/2024 23:06

Fuck me - you are 42!! Run for the hills now. You may have a few hard years but if you have been a SAHM for most of your marriage you are probably entitled to a large % of assets. Jus because you don't know about them doesn't mean they are not joint. And a judge will look at the full length of the relationship, not just the marriage in these circumstances. Please see a lawyer and get yourself out of this as quick as possible. Doing things you don't like while having sex and telling you that you do really? Just yuck. Do you think he senses that you may be pulling away and that is why h is now around all the time?

hellsBells246 · 04/01/2024 23:07

You can leave him for any reason you want. But the punching and choking during sex would be enough for me.

Him asking you to take speeding points for him is illegal.

Frankly, he sounds awful. We only get one life. I'd leave him like a shot.

SkaterGrrrrl · 04/01/2024 23:07

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:18

Been together for 21 years. These are some of the things he’s done over the years that have led me to this point:

Found out when I was pregnant with youngest (now 13) that he was on extra-marital affair websites and was conversing with several women and arranging to meet up in hotels.
Upon me finding out he insisted nothing had ever happened and it was all titillation. Subsequently got mad at me if I brought it up and told me all the usual stuff like “we weren’t having much sex at the time” (not true). I think this was the start of when I really started to resent him and the scales fell from my eyes.

Financial abuse: I’m a sahm (I know, I know). He pays me an allowance each week for food/clothes etc. I will admit on this he’s quite generous and rarely buys things for himself. But we have no joint finances - I have absolutely no idea how much he earns (though he has told me if he was on a salary he would be in the top 2% to afford our lifestyle)
He owns £££ in assets but I am not privy to any of this information. I don’t even know who we pay our bills/mortgage to. All his paperwork is kept in his locked offices and it’s such a mess I wouldn’t know where to begin. Now we’re getting older (and after a few sudden deaths in the family) I have asked repeatedly that I’m included in financial goings-on so that I know what to do should anything happen to him. His response is to shut me down with phrases such as “the solicitors will deal with it” or “just sell everything- you’ll be fine”. His business dealings are extremely complicated, he works 12 hour days to keep up - yet he thinks il be fine with absolutely no knowledge of the business if he dies?(he’s older than me btw)

Sex: he has, I think, a porn addiction - or has in the past. I’ve caught him many times, he knows I hate it.
I believe this has ruined our sex lufe as he’s always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He has just made me take a second lot of speeding points for him bc if he takes them he’ll be banned. If I refuse he’ll say that I will then have to do all the driving and it’ll affect his work and our finances.

He loves the sound of his own voice, is a complete bore and only talks about certain subjects: the economy, the state of the country, how much he disagrees with certain things etc. I feel he is a very negative person, though he would describe himself as positive - but this is only “toxic positivity” in my view. If you are upset about something he has the attitude of “you just need to change your mindset” or “stop moping” - as a result I don’t confide in him or really even talk to him any more. It feels like if he’s not the one controlling the conversation he’s not interested.

I read things on here about people saying their partners are kind and do things like bring them a cup of tea when they’re ill or do some cleaning. He does nothing. Bc he earns the money and I don’t work, everything else is down to me. He won’t do any diy around the house and won’t pay tradesmen to do it, as a result I feel the house is falling down around our ears - it’s really stressful.

Ive been ill this week and have been getting up late as I can’t sleep and when I come down he hasn’t even fed the poor dog. If I ask him to do anything he says “later” or gets the hump.

He’s suddenly decided after 20 years of going out of the house for 12 hrs a day that he’s now working from home as he’s no need to be in the office any more. When we were younger and the dcs were small I used to sometimes beg him to take a day off if I was ill and he wouldn’t. One thing that sticks in my mind was my dd knocking herself out and I’d just had another baby and he wouldn’t come home and take the baby whilst I took her to A&E. that’s just one example - there are many other similar incidents. I’m so annoyed that now the dcs are all flying the nest or at high school he’s suddenly decided he’s staying home. It’s driving me mad. I can’t play music whilst I’m cleaning bc he’s working etc.

Im 42 so is this age-related? Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad or for the dcs sake? The thought of spending the next 30 years with him is depressing.

Ive no idea what position il be in financially if we do spilt - I’ve no money, no idea about his financial affairs and wouldn’t even have the money for a solicitor. I do know (or he’s said) that my name is on some of the properties he owns. I don’t think he’s done this to protect me but to protect himself should his business go tits up!

I could go on and on but I realise this is already very long. I don’t really know what I’m asking - maybe just to document things for my own sanity.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or knowledgable about instances like this where one partner holds all the cards?

I feel like if I divorce him il be completely at his mercy. He’s very clever in business dealings and knows how to hide things/use loopholes.

thanks to anyone who read that mammoth OP!

Run a mile OP.

42 is young.

Start over on your own, or with someone who doesn't punch you during sex.

Noseybookworm · 04/01/2024 23:08

Reading all that, I have to say I can't believe that you've stayed with him this long! Of course you should leave. Get yourself a solicitor, they are used to dealing with men like your husband 😏 stay strong and just imagine the peace of not living with this horrible man. Good luck OP

MaidOfSteel · 04/01/2024 23:09

Plesse, please stop minimising the horrible, cruel, disgusting and abusive things happening to you, OP. There's been lots of excellent advice on this thread and I can only urge you to start making arrangements to get the heck away from this pitiful excuse for a man. Real, decent men don't treat their wives like this.

You have half a lifetime ahead of you still and you deserve to live it in peace and according to your rules.

One thing I will add, as you mention this man has been changing the name of the business lately; I think sometimes this can be a sign it may be in trouble, or he may be himself. I hope that's not the case, but it's something to bear in mind.

I'm sending you very best wishes for a much happier future.

PaminaMozart · 04/01/2024 23:09

Do what @Outofmydepthnow outlined in her excellent post.

The only thing I would add: you will want to engage a forensic accountant. But if your lawyer is any good, they'll suggest this anyway, given your husband's financial affairs and secrecy.

telestrations · 04/01/2024 23:11

Please leave him but please see a solicitor first, and secretly. Do not tell anyone!

Alarm bells ring at you only having been married for 5 years you may not automatically entitle you to 50/50 as a starting point if he can argue assets are pre-martial

But this is not a reason to not leave just to get legal advise first

Fullofxmascbeer · 04/01/2024 23:11

Bloody hell. You have told him you don’t like the punches and he still does it anyway!
That in itself is enough to leave him.

Get a good lawyer first.

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 23:11

I have so many questions about your post... You really don't know how much your own husband earns? That's never ever come into conversation?

Yes, but he is very evasive and just has a way of wriggling out of everything. He doesn’t give a straight answer to anything.

He tells me I don’t need to worry about any of that. That it’s all in hand, he’ll take care of everything.

He has had his own company since I met him so he doesn’t have a salary as such.

For instance he’s told me he never paid back his student debt as he is self employed and “it all just goes back into the business” he can get away with it.

There’s lots of things like that. He is shady definitely- but doesn’t do anything that would land him in jail, he’s not daft.

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honeylulu · 04/01/2024 23:11

FGS the sex stuff alone is bad enough!!!
Violence, financial abuse, forcing you to commit criminal offences ... He's not a "good dad" or a "nice guy". Good and nice men do not abuse the mothers of their children.

Get a job and get out, fast! Don't stay for "the lifestyle" - are you seriously thinking a big house and his alpha male salary is worth being choked and disrespected? Wake up!!!

Search for yourself as director in Companies House, then look at what assets the companies own. Might help you trace what's in your ownership.

42 is still young, don't waste another 21 years.

LuluBlakey1 · 04/01/2024 23:13

You would be so much happier without him- but please take your poor dog with you. Don't leave the dog with him.

Bature · 04/01/2024 23:14

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:55

If your DH is in the habit of punching you then that is very bad indeed.

I feel I need to clarify in case I’ve made it sound worse than it is: He doesn’t punch me in the face (he does slap my face hard though sometimes) he punches my body - he doesn’t do it in anger like domestic abuse - it’s because it turns him on (as I said earlier, prob the kind of porn he watches).

I made a big deal and told him I really don’t like it he hasn’t done it for a while but I never really know if it’s coming or not. The punches have only left light bruising a few times, not black and blue or anything.

Im sorry, it’s really difficult to even write it. I know it’s not normal.

What you’re describing here IS domestic abuse. Quite intense domestic abuse, in fact. The sort of straightforward black and white domestic abuse where you could ring the police and they’d turn up because there’d be concerns for your safety.

incomeout · 04/01/2024 23:14

Can you remember whether he had grants and payments during Covid from the government?

This could be an indication of his income - I know a lot of self employed sidles themselves by the way they finance their business which meant they couldn't get grants / payments.

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