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To leave DH for these reasons?

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YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:18

Been together for 21 years. These are some of the things he’s done over the years that have led me to this point:

Found out when I was pregnant with youngest (now 13) that he was on extra-marital affair websites and was conversing with several women and arranging to meet up in hotels.
Upon me finding out he insisted nothing had ever happened and it was all titillation. Subsequently got mad at me if I brought it up and told me all the usual stuff like “we weren’t having much sex at the time” (not true). I think this was the start of when I really started to resent him and the scales fell from my eyes.

Financial abuse: I’m a sahm (I know, I know). He pays me an allowance each week for food/clothes etc. I will admit on this he’s quite generous and rarely buys things for himself. But we have no joint finances - I have absolutely no idea how much he earns (though he has told me if he was on a salary he would be in the top 2% to afford our lifestyle)
He owns £££ in assets but I am not privy to any of this information. I don’t even know who we pay our bills/mortgage to. All his paperwork is kept in his locked offices and it’s such a mess I wouldn’t know where to begin. Now we’re getting older (and after a few sudden deaths in the family) I have asked repeatedly that I’m included in financial goings-on so that I know what to do should anything happen to him. His response is to shut me down with phrases such as “the solicitors will deal with it” or “just sell everything- you’ll be fine”. His business dealings are extremely complicated, he works 12 hour days to keep up - yet he thinks il be fine with absolutely no knowledge of the business if he dies?(he’s older than me btw)

Sex: he has, I think, a porn addiction - or has in the past. I’ve caught him many times, he knows I hate it.
I believe this has ruined our sex lufe as he’s always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He has just made me take a second lot of speeding points for him bc if he takes them he’ll be banned. If I refuse he’ll say that I will then have to do all the driving and it’ll affect his work and our finances.

He loves the sound of his own voice, is a complete bore and only talks about certain subjects: the economy, the state of the country, how much he disagrees with certain things etc. I feel he is a very negative person, though he would describe himself as positive - but this is only “toxic positivity” in my view. If you are upset about something he has the attitude of “you just need to change your mindset” or “stop moping” - as a result I don’t confide in him or really even talk to him any more. It feels like if he’s not the one controlling the conversation he’s not interested.

I read things on here about people saying their partners are kind and do things like bring them a cup of tea when they’re ill or do some cleaning. He does nothing. Bc he earns the money and I don’t work, everything else is down to me. He won’t do any diy around the house and won’t pay tradesmen to do it, as a result I feel the house is falling down around our ears - it’s really stressful.

Ive been ill this week and have been getting up late as I can’t sleep and when I come down he hasn’t even fed the poor dog. If I ask him to do anything he says “later” or gets the hump.

He’s suddenly decided after 20 years of going out of the house for 12 hrs a day that he’s now working from home as he’s no need to be in the office any more. When we were younger and the dcs were small I used to sometimes beg him to take a day off if I was ill and he wouldn’t. One thing that sticks in my mind was my dd knocking herself out and I’d just had another baby and he wouldn’t come home and take the baby whilst I took her to A&E. that’s just one example - there are many other similar incidents. I’m so annoyed that now the dcs are all flying the nest or at high school he’s suddenly decided he’s staying home. It’s driving me mad. I can’t play music whilst I’m cleaning bc he’s working etc.

Im 42 so is this age-related? Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad or for the dcs sake? The thought of spending the next 30 years with him is depressing.

Ive no idea what position il be in financially if we do spilt - I’ve no money, no idea about his financial affairs and wouldn’t even have the money for a solicitor. I do know (or he’s said) that my name is on some of the properties he owns. I don’t think he’s done this to protect me but to protect himself should his business go tits up!

I could go on and on but I realise this is already very long. I don’t really know what I’m asking - maybe just to document things for my own sanity.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or knowledgable about instances like this where one partner holds all the cards?

I feel like if I divorce him il be completely at his mercy. He’s very clever in business dealings and knows how to hide things/use loopholes.

thanks to anyone who read that mammoth OP!

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TheQueenMakersDaughter · 05/01/2024 17:15

We're rooting for you! You can do this.

Living on your own will make you giddy with freedom for a short time. They you'll adjust and quite simply revel in it. You will.

pikkumyy77 · 05/01/2024 17:16

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mn29 · 05/01/2024 18:36

I flit between thinking it will be best to divorce even if I end up with nothing to feeling very scared about beginning again with nothing

@YouStupidGirl yes it will be scary beginning again with nothing (if you do end up with nothing- you might end up with a lot!) but even having nothing will be preferable to living with an abuser, honestly.

Ofcourseshecan · 05/01/2024 18:51

I sometimes wish he would do something REALLY bad to give me more of a reason.

Jesus wept, OP. He slaps your face hard, he chokes you, he punches you leaving bruises — that is serious domestic violence.

I know that violent pornography is so common these days that you get women thinking they have to like it. But even by those porn-warped standards, what he’s doing is assault, a criminal offence.

AcrossthePond55 · 05/01/2024 20:25

@YouStupidGirl

I flit between thinking it will be best to divorce even if I end up with nothing to feeling very scared about beginning again with nothing. Having him “take care of everything” and having no autonomy over finances etc has been the norm for me since I was 20 so it’s just hard to get my head around how it will be to be independent from him.

Yes, divorce will mean change. It may even mean a 'step down' in your lifestyle. But I tell you this, I'd far rather eat beans in a bedsit than dine on filet mignon in a mansion with a man like yours. You cannot put a price on peace and calm in a home.

I'm not saying you'll end up penniless or living in a cardboard box. I'm just trying to make you see that holding on to the 'status quo' is damaging to you and your children. Actually, it's more than just damaging to you, it's verging on dangerous. A man who enjoys violence in bed with an unwilling partner is a man who enjoys violence, period. And violence always escalates in one form or another.

As far as this 'affair' you started/contemplated, I think that chances are you did this because you are desperate to get out of your marriage and you thought, not that this man would be the answer, but that the affair would give you emotional separation from your marriage and the courage to leave it. You were right to stop it going any further, cheating is always wrong. But do realize the desperation that drove you to it.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 20:47

*He doesn’t punch me in the face (he does slap my face hard though sometimes) he punches my body - he doesn’t do it in anger like domestic abuse - it’s because it turns him on (as I said earlier, prob the kind of porn he watches).

I made a big deal and told him I really don’t like it he hasn’t done it for a while but I never really know if it’s coming or not. The punches have only left light bruising a few times, not black and blue or anything.*

Sick bastard

feelingfree17 · 05/01/2024 20:49

You have to understand that this really is next level abuse, but difficult to recognise as over the years he has totally conditioned you. Just take small steps, the coast will become clearer and you yourself will be able to see his level of abuse. Once you can completely see it for yourself you will be on your way.

Well done for looking at Solicitors, a great first step. There is much help and support out there for women in your position.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 20:51

I sometimes wish he would do something REALLY bad to give me more of a reason.

He very likely cheated on you.

He's violent during sex.

He's a financial abuser.

He's a "general" abuser.

He coerces you to take responsibility for his illegal, irresponsible behaviour - speeding.

He's exploitative and abusive.

I wouldn't like to even speculate what he gets up to away from the house/you.

This is one of the worst threads I've read on here; and that's saying a lot.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 20:52

I'm not surprised to learn he's older too - a certain type of man goes for younger women so they can control, abuse, manipulate, lie etc. more easily.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 20:53

He's wired really badly/horribly to get turned on by and enjoy hitting, slapping, pinching, choking women during sex.

The worst type of fucked up, nasty bastard.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 21:04

he doesn’t do it in anger like domestic abuse - it’s because it turns him on

It's domestic abuse whether he does it in anger or not.

Oh and domestic abusers don't hit in anger ..... They only get that "angry" with women and kids; never with men who could give them a beating back or police or bouncers etc.

Their "anger* has a specific purpose/motivation/context. They give themselves permission to hit etc.
They get what they want out of it .... A little autocracy/dictatorship with them as alpha dominant ape, and very little dissent in their home and personal life. Never a democracy
.

That's what your home is - an autocracy.
With zero transparency.

Lundy Bancroft's "why does he do that" would be a useful read if you haven't read it already .... Esp. the abuser profiles and myths about abuse.

This man worked with domestic abusers for years and he deconstructs every excuse and myth and delusion.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 21:07

Op every once in a while an op on here relates her husband or partner's behaviour and I (and I'm probably not alone in this) end up fantasising about inflicting serious violence on him .. . Your h has definitely joined that select group for me.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 21:14

You need a good divorce solicitor and a forensic accountant.

The starting point is generally 50% of all assets. You've been married for a long time so I would imagine everything is a marital asset.

You need to do all this without giving him the slightest heads up or he'll start moving & hiding assets in a way that even a forensic accountant may not be able to find.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 21:18

Sex: he has, I think, a porn addiction - or has in the past. I’ve caught him many times, he knows I hate it.
I believe this has ruined our sex lufe as he’s always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He strikes me as a punter (prostitute user), if he is - I feel very sorry for the prostitutes.

Even if not, he clearly watches too much nasty, degrading porn - and thinks it's perfectly ok to bring that into real life. Nah.

Telling you he knows you like it really. Fucking hell. Do something painful to him and if he complains; tell him you know he likes it really, you know he loves it.

OliveToboogie · 05/01/2024 21:19

Be very careful. Your husband is well dodgy as we say in Glasgow. He has probably been up to all sorts of dodgy dealing and shady things. If he goes down he will probably take you with him. Telling the cops you knew all about it. You have already committed an offence taking driving points for someone else. Remember MP and his wife who were both convicted of this not so long ago. Get out now before police get involved or he hacks off the wrong people.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 21:20

Since he uses your name to take his speeding points, I'd imagine he probably uses your name/you for other things too - financially/assets/dodges/liability etc. Someone - the forensic accountant? - needs to find that out.

Some professionals may take payment from your settlement
.

Ladolcevita233 · 05/01/2024 21:21

I see I've had the same thought as Olive.

OliveToboogie · 05/01/2024 21:24

Hope we are wrong but I doubt it. Husband is as sleazy snake.

SpinningOutWaitinForYa · 07/01/2024 23:25

Please don't confront him OP. Do everything in secret, including looking into your finances. Seek out advice from Women's Aid etc too. He sounds very dodgy and could leave you in a bad way.
Also, he's not afraid to punch you without your consent during sex. I don't think he would see a problem with it if you confronted him.

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