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To leave DH for these reasons?

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YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:18

Been together for 21 years. These are some of the things he’s done over the years that have led me to this point:

Found out when I was pregnant with youngest (now 13) that he was on extra-marital affair websites and was conversing with several women and arranging to meet up in hotels.
Upon me finding out he insisted nothing had ever happened and it was all titillation. Subsequently got mad at me if I brought it up and told me all the usual stuff like “we weren’t having much sex at the time” (not true). I think this was the start of when I really started to resent him and the scales fell from my eyes.

Financial abuse: I’m a sahm (I know, I know). He pays me an allowance each week for food/clothes etc. I will admit on this he’s quite generous and rarely buys things for himself. But we have no joint finances - I have absolutely no idea how much he earns (though he has told me if he was on a salary he would be in the top 2% to afford our lifestyle)
He owns £££ in assets but I am not privy to any of this information. I don’t even know who we pay our bills/mortgage to. All his paperwork is kept in his locked offices and it’s such a mess I wouldn’t know where to begin. Now we’re getting older (and after a few sudden deaths in the family) I have asked repeatedly that I’m included in financial goings-on so that I know what to do should anything happen to him. His response is to shut me down with phrases such as “the solicitors will deal with it” or “just sell everything- you’ll be fine”. His business dealings are extremely complicated, he works 12 hour days to keep up - yet he thinks il be fine with absolutely no knowledge of the business if he dies?(he’s older than me btw)

Sex: he has, I think, a porn addiction - or has in the past. I’ve caught him many times, he knows I hate it.
I believe this has ruined our sex lufe as he’s always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He has just made me take a second lot of speeding points for him bc if he takes them he’ll be banned. If I refuse he’ll say that I will then have to do all the driving and it’ll affect his work and our finances.

He loves the sound of his own voice, is a complete bore and only talks about certain subjects: the economy, the state of the country, how much he disagrees with certain things etc. I feel he is a very negative person, though he would describe himself as positive - but this is only “toxic positivity” in my view. If you are upset about something he has the attitude of “you just need to change your mindset” or “stop moping” - as a result I don’t confide in him or really even talk to him any more. It feels like if he’s not the one controlling the conversation he’s not interested.

I read things on here about people saying their partners are kind and do things like bring them a cup of tea when they’re ill or do some cleaning. He does nothing. Bc he earns the money and I don’t work, everything else is down to me. He won’t do any diy around the house and won’t pay tradesmen to do it, as a result I feel the house is falling down around our ears - it’s really stressful.

Ive been ill this week and have been getting up late as I can’t sleep and when I come down he hasn’t even fed the poor dog. If I ask him to do anything he says “later” or gets the hump.

He’s suddenly decided after 20 years of going out of the house for 12 hrs a day that he’s now working from home as he’s no need to be in the office any more. When we were younger and the dcs were small I used to sometimes beg him to take a day off if I was ill and he wouldn’t. One thing that sticks in my mind was my dd knocking herself out and I’d just had another baby and he wouldn’t come home and take the baby whilst I took her to A&E. that’s just one example - there are many other similar incidents. I’m so annoyed that now the dcs are all flying the nest or at high school he’s suddenly decided he’s staying home. It’s driving me mad. I can’t play music whilst I’m cleaning bc he’s working etc.

Im 42 so is this age-related? Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad or for the dcs sake? The thought of spending the next 30 years with him is depressing.

Ive no idea what position il be in financially if we do spilt - I’ve no money, no idea about his financial affairs and wouldn’t even have the money for a solicitor. I do know (or he’s said) that my name is on some of the properties he owns. I don’t think he’s done this to protect me but to protect himself should his business go tits up!

I could go on and on but I realise this is already very long. I don’t really know what I’m asking - maybe just to document things for my own sanity.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or knowledgable about instances like this where one partner holds all the cards?

I feel like if I divorce him il be completely at his mercy. He’s very clever in business dealings and knows how to hide things/use loopholes.

thanks to anyone who read that mammoth OP!

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NewFriendlyLadybird · 04/01/2024 22:46

Milkybarsareonmeeeee · 04/01/2024 22:44

Go and see a solicitor - show him your original post.

And yes do this .! That’s an excellent idea when you are stuck for words. .
I also think this is no time to look for a job . You will have a massive financial fight to use your energy on and getting yourself free.

Good point about not looking for a job. Get yourself free first.

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:46

you can look up at the Land Registry online and find out who the owners are if you have the addresses to see what you own jointly.

I literally don’t even know the addresses of most of his properties- just a few.

He owns a lot, maybe 50+. Mainly blocks of flats.

He has changed the name of the business quite a few times over the years - it’s all very confusing. This is the part that worries me most, how ignorant I am. I don’t want to get shafted and be left with a crappy lifestyle while he moves on (which I think he quickly would - oh, he’d be straight on those dating websites I’m sure!) and is rolling in it.

I don’t want to feel like I’ve done it all for nothing. This is what stops me.

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Nextweektoo · 04/01/2024 22:46

You may also benefit from speaking to a domestic abuse charity. Some can offer some legal advice as well.

OliveToboogie · 04/01/2024 22:46

If police find he lied about who was driving car, then he could be in serious trouble.

SerafinasGoose · 04/01/2024 22:47

Do NOT take anyone else's points when you didn't commit the offence. This is serious, OP. If you're caught it could result in a custodial sentence.

Aside from this you can leave a relationship for whatever reason you want. He's coercive, sexually abusive and from what you've described, very likely a rapist.

I'm so sorry you've been living like this. You don't have to. This is not normal, far from it.

BustyLaRoux · 04/01/2024 22:47

You’ve a long life ahead of you. Another 40 years or more god willing. You don’t have to spend them with this schmuck! You get one life. Don’t waste it.

MoonWoman69 · 04/01/2024 22:48

Outofmydepthnow · 04/01/2024 22:33

Getting a job is NOT the priority right now !!,

Sorting a divorce from someone like this will be a full time job in itself...

Keep your powder dry. Use the time you have with him at work to gather as much evidence as possible.

House value,
Who is the mortgage with ?
Assets ? Where are they, what are they...

Smile. Be nice. Get your shit together.

Research SHIT HOT LAWYERS..
START stashing cash.

Go to a shit hot lawyer and tell them EVERYTHING you have said here.

You cannot possibly do this whilst looking after 4 kids and working in Tesco part time !

Make THIS your job and investment in your future.
5 years is considered a long marriage especially once added to the length of your relationship...

Then spring and fucking CHOKE AND PUNCH him financially.
Do it for you and your children.

Please please please, OP, listen to this advice and do it... Sending hugs and positive vibes your way. You deserve to be happy and safe, do it while you're still young enough. Parts of your post resonate with me too, I'm currently plotting right now. Let us know how you get on and use all resources available to you. You have more strength than you know 🤗💐❤🤗💐❤🤗💐

WaltzingWaters · 04/01/2024 22:49

You would be unreasonable to stay with him. He sounds awful.
get your ducks in a row/ some proper legal advice and leave this prick.

KeepTrying0 · 04/01/2024 22:49

This is going to sound absolutely awful, but could you get video evidence of how he behaves. I can't believe I'm suggesting that, but if it's going to go to court then evidence would really help to get things clear.

Gawd I can't believe I said that out loud.

WickDittington · 04/01/2024 22:50

I think you should make very discreet plans to leave. As in tell nobody. Leaving a man like this can be very dangerous and you will need professional help.

There was a thread recently revived about a woman ( her user name was @coats something??) preparing to leave her husband who was financially controlling. She did things like buy up vouchers and stock up on stuff against her leaving him. She knew he would be an arse about money so she started to stockpile stuff for her and her children.

I’m on my phone and can’t work out how to link it, but maybe a more competent poster can post the link for you? It had a lot of useful information and ideas for leaving a difficult man by stealth.

stomachameleon · 04/01/2024 22:50

@Outofmydepthnow is 100% right and you must do this.
This should be your priority.
You have all the time in the world to work when you have a divorce and peace of mind.

tachetastic · 04/01/2024 22:50

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:18

Been together for 21 years. These are some of the things he’s done over the years that have led me to this point:

Found out when I was pregnant with youngest (now 13) that he was on extra-marital affair websites and was conversing with several women and arranging to meet up in hotels.
Upon me finding out he insisted nothing had ever happened and it was all titillation. Subsequently got mad at me if I brought it up and told me all the usual stuff like “we weren’t having much sex at the time” (not true). I think this was the start of when I really started to resent him and the scales fell from my eyes.

Financial abuse: I’m a sahm (I know, I know). He pays me an allowance each week for food/clothes etc. I will admit on this he’s quite generous and rarely buys things for himself. But we have no joint finances - I have absolutely no idea how much he earns (though he has told me if he was on a salary he would be in the top 2% to afford our lifestyle)
He owns £££ in assets but I am not privy to any of this information. I don’t even know who we pay our bills/mortgage to. All his paperwork is kept in his locked offices and it’s such a mess I wouldn’t know where to begin. Now we’re getting older (and after a few sudden deaths in the family) I have asked repeatedly that I’m included in financial goings-on so that I know what to do should anything happen to him. His response is to shut me down with phrases such as “the solicitors will deal with it” or “just sell everything- you’ll be fine”. His business dealings are extremely complicated, he works 12 hour days to keep up - yet he thinks il be fine with absolutely no knowledge of the business if he dies?(he’s older than me btw)

Sex: he has, I think, a porn addiction - or has in the past. I’ve caught him many times, he knows I hate it.
I believe this has ruined our sex lufe as he’s always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He has just made me take a second lot of speeding points for him bc if he takes them he’ll be banned. If I refuse he’ll say that I will then have to do all the driving and it’ll affect his work and our finances.

He loves the sound of his own voice, is a complete bore and only talks about certain subjects: the economy, the state of the country, how much he disagrees with certain things etc. I feel he is a very negative person, though he would describe himself as positive - but this is only “toxic positivity” in my view. If you are upset about something he has the attitude of “you just need to change your mindset” or “stop moping” - as a result I don’t confide in him or really even talk to him any more. It feels like if he’s not the one controlling the conversation he’s not interested.

I read things on here about people saying their partners are kind and do things like bring them a cup of tea when they’re ill or do some cleaning. He does nothing. Bc he earns the money and I don’t work, everything else is down to me. He won’t do any diy around the house and won’t pay tradesmen to do it, as a result I feel the house is falling down around our ears - it’s really stressful.

Ive been ill this week and have been getting up late as I can’t sleep and when I come down he hasn’t even fed the poor dog. If I ask him to do anything he says “later” or gets the hump.

He’s suddenly decided after 20 years of going out of the house for 12 hrs a day that he’s now working from home as he’s no need to be in the office any more. When we were younger and the dcs were small I used to sometimes beg him to take a day off if I was ill and he wouldn’t. One thing that sticks in my mind was my dd knocking herself out and I’d just had another baby and he wouldn’t come home and take the baby whilst I took her to A&E. that’s just one example - there are many other similar incidents. I’m so annoyed that now the dcs are all flying the nest or at high school he’s suddenly decided he’s staying home. It’s driving me mad. I can’t play music whilst I’m cleaning bc he’s working etc.

Im 42 so is this age-related? Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad or for the dcs sake? The thought of spending the next 30 years with him is depressing.

Ive no idea what position il be in financially if we do spilt - I’ve no money, no idea about his financial affairs and wouldn’t even have the money for a solicitor. I do know (or he’s said) that my name is on some of the properties he owns. I don’t think he’s done this to protect me but to protect himself should his business go tits up!

I could go on and on but I realise this is already very long. I don’t really know what I’m asking - maybe just to document things for my own sanity.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or knowledgable about instances like this where one partner holds all the cards?

I feel like if I divorce him il be completely at his mercy. He’s very clever in business dealings and knows how to hide things/use loopholes.

thanks to anyone who read that mammoth OP!

@YouStupidGirl, for once I agree with your choice of name. No offence.

You're not a wife in this relationship. You're not even a servant, as they have rights. You're a slave.

I don't think you need anybody to tell you what you need to do. You need to get out and soon, but I do agree that you should take advice first. Maybe now he is at home more the office will be unlocked and you will have a chance to work out what is going on with his finances?

It also sounds like some of his life is quite shady. If he is forcing you to take multiple points on your licence, and keeping other aspects of his life secret, then who knows what else he is up to. Fingers crossed at some point he will be found at and end up spending time at His Majesty's pleasure. If so, I hope his cell mate will punch and choke him during sex "because he likes it really".

MoonWoman69 · 04/01/2024 22:50

Absolutely brilliant advice, I could hug you 🤗🤗🤗❤❤❤

WickDittington · 04/01/2024 22:52

I don’t want to feel like I’ve done it all for nothing. This is what stops me.

You have four beautiful children. That is not nothing. At all. And you’d be doing it for them as much as for you.

MILTOBE · 04/01/2024 22:52

The fact he chokes and punches you during sex made me feel il l. Do you think he goes to prostitutes? Does he watch a lot of porn?

Honestly, you are young enough to start again. Go to a solicitor and find out what's what. Go to the Land Registry online and see whose name is on those properties you know of. Make a note of any bank account numbers you know about.

Then start to think about work and what you could do. I think studying for something would really help you.

I'm not certain about the length of your marriage but I'm sure people have said on here that given you were together a lot longer and had children prior to marriage, that would be taken into account with the length of your actual marriage.

He sounds really dangerous, tbh so I definitely wouldn't be telling him anything until I got the go ahead from a solicitor.

FMSucks · 04/01/2024 22:53

Honestly OP this is one of the worst posts of an abusive man I’ve seen on here and I’ve been in abusive relationships before too. I would rather be skint than live with that vile, abusive prick. I actually let out an audible gasp when I read about the sexual abuse. How dare he do that to you. How fucking dare he.

Get away from this scumbag and go and live your best life. Sending you a big hug 🤗

KeepTrying0 · 04/01/2024 22:53

Also can I suggest changing your username to something that talks you up a bit, like "NewLifeStartsNow" or something? It's surprising how little things like that can help.

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:55

If your DH is in the habit of punching you then that is very bad indeed.

I feel I need to clarify in case I’ve made it sound worse than it is: He doesn’t punch me in the face (he does slap my face hard though sometimes) he punches my body - he doesn’t do it in anger like domestic abuse - it’s because it turns him on (as I said earlier, prob the kind of porn he watches).

I made a big deal and told him I really don’t like it he hasn’t done it for a while but I never really know if it’s coming or not. The punches have only left light bruising a few times, not black and blue or anything.

Im sorry, it’s really difficult to even write it. I know it’s not normal.

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GirlOfTudor · 04/01/2024 22:55

He sounds like an abusive c*nt. Get out and be very careful.

I have so many questions about your post... You really don't know how much your own husband earns? That's never ever come into conversation? Not even when talking about applying for new jobs or salary increases? And you mentioned 'if he was on a salary'... if he hourly paid then? Or works per project or on commission?

You mentioned he gives you an "allowance" - do you have your own bank account? Do you have access to his if you don't have a joint account?

You don't know who your mortgage and bills are with?

You said you're in your forties and the kids are grown, so why are you still a stay at home mum? Has he prevented you from working all this time?

Please make a plan to escape from this. I promise you that life doesn't have to be like this and this isn't a normal relationship. Good luck.

Permanentlymildlymiffed · 04/01/2024 22:55

I agree with all the other comments that you need to leave but if at all possible you need to get the financial info before doing so. I have 2 friends both financially destitute as their ex Hs just keep refusing to comply with court orders to produce the financial documents or pay anything they’ve been ordered to pay. It absolutely baffles me they can get away with it but they are. Both have been threatened with prosecution but nothing has actually happened. Had my friends left already in possession of the documents they would’ve had an easier time and not lost so much money to solicitors fees fighting these bastards for their fair share of marital assets.

Milkybarsareonmeeeee · 04/01/2024 22:56

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 22:39

Is he too old to mess around now is that why he has decided to work from home. Or was he just pig ignorant and don’t want to parent.

Both I think.

The irony is I nearly had a nervous breakdown and drove myself insane wondering who he was with/what he was doing when he was never home.

Now he’s home all the time I couldn’t care less - I wish he would piss off with someone else!

I am taking it all in, I really am. You are all helping so much x

i think you have focused so long on what he’s doing and who he wants that you need to think about what you want .
Do you actually care if he goes on dating sites or with others ? Try to focus your energy elsewhere . I genuinely feel sorry for any other women he encounters . They are going in blind like you did . Unless of course it’s dodgy sites .

Your not stupid you were naive . You trusted and he didn’t deserve it.

radiatordrama · 04/01/2024 22:56

You are unreasonable to stay

feelingfree17 · 04/01/2024 22:57

Nothing, but nothing could be worse than the situation you are in. You are still a very young women with years ahead of you.

Leave, your life can only improve, probably beyond your wildest dreams

Motorina · 04/01/2024 22:57

He sounds absolutely grim.

If you go on the Companies House website (https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-a-company) you may be able to find information about him/his companies. Depending on the type of company there may be accounts information. It sounds like it won't be entirely accurate as he'll be hiding stuff to minimise tax, but it will give you a starting point.

Googling his name/his company name(s) may turn up useful information, too. I can't imagine there's many companies out there that don't have a website at least!

Once you have property addresses you can look up ownership on the land registry.

Yorkshirelass04 · 04/01/2024 22:58

He owns blocks of flats? 50 properties?