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To leave DH for these reasons?

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YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:18

Been together for 21 years. These are some of the things he’s done over the years that have led me to this point:

Found out when I was pregnant with youngest (now 13) that he was on extra-marital affair websites and was conversing with several women and arranging to meet up in hotels.
Upon me finding out he insisted nothing had ever happened and it was all titillation. Subsequently got mad at me if I brought it up and told me all the usual stuff like “we weren’t having much sex at the time” (not true). I think this was the start of when I really started to resent him and the scales fell from my eyes.

Financial abuse: I’m a sahm (I know, I know). He pays me an allowance each week for food/clothes etc. I will admit on this he’s quite generous and rarely buys things for himself. But we have no joint finances - I have absolutely no idea how much he earns (though he has told me if he was on a salary he would be in the top 2% to afford our lifestyle)
He owns £££ in assets but I am not privy to any of this information. I don’t even know who we pay our bills/mortgage to. All his paperwork is kept in his locked offices and it’s such a mess I wouldn’t know where to begin. Now we’re getting older (and after a few sudden deaths in the family) I have asked repeatedly that I’m included in financial goings-on so that I know what to do should anything happen to him. His response is to shut me down with phrases such as “the solicitors will deal with it” or “just sell everything- you’ll be fine”. His business dealings are extremely complicated, he works 12 hour days to keep up - yet he thinks il be fine with absolutely no knowledge of the business if he dies?(he’s older than me btw)

Sex: he has, I think, a porn addiction - or has in the past. I’ve caught him many times, he knows I hate it.
I believe this has ruined our sex lufe as he’s always wanting to do things I’m not comfortable with. I don’t want to go into too much detail as it’s embarrassing but he will sometimes punch me and choke me during sex. If I complain he says he does it bc he knows I like it really. He also has some pretty gross fantasies that knock me sick. As a result I really don’t like having sex with him anymore.

He has just made me take a second lot of speeding points for him bc if he takes them he’ll be banned. If I refuse he’ll say that I will then have to do all the driving and it’ll affect his work and our finances.

He loves the sound of his own voice, is a complete bore and only talks about certain subjects: the economy, the state of the country, how much he disagrees with certain things etc. I feel he is a very negative person, though he would describe himself as positive - but this is only “toxic positivity” in my view. If you are upset about something he has the attitude of “you just need to change your mindset” or “stop moping” - as a result I don’t confide in him or really even talk to him any more. It feels like if he’s not the one controlling the conversation he’s not interested.

I read things on here about people saying their partners are kind and do things like bring them a cup of tea when they’re ill or do some cleaning. He does nothing. Bc he earns the money and I don’t work, everything else is down to me. He won’t do any diy around the house and won’t pay tradesmen to do it, as a result I feel the house is falling down around our ears - it’s really stressful.

Ive been ill this week and have been getting up late as I can’t sleep and when I come down he hasn’t even fed the poor dog. If I ask him to do anything he says “later” or gets the hump.

He’s suddenly decided after 20 years of going out of the house for 12 hrs a day that he’s now working from home as he’s no need to be in the office any more. When we were younger and the dcs were small I used to sometimes beg him to take a day off if I was ill and he wouldn’t. One thing that sticks in my mind was my dd knocking herself out and I’d just had another baby and he wouldn’t come home and take the baby whilst I took her to A&E. that’s just one example - there are many other similar incidents. I’m so annoyed that now the dcs are all flying the nest or at high school he’s suddenly decided he’s staying home. It’s driving me mad. I can’t play music whilst I’m cleaning bc he’s working etc.

Im 42 so is this age-related? Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad or for the dcs sake? The thought of spending the next 30 years with him is depressing.

Ive no idea what position il be in financially if we do spilt - I’ve no money, no idea about his financial affairs and wouldn’t even have the money for a solicitor. I do know (or he’s said) that my name is on some of the properties he owns. I don’t think he’s done this to protect me but to protect himself should his business go tits up!

I could go on and on but I realise this is already very long. I don’t really know what I’m asking - maybe just to document things for my own sanity.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or knowledgable about instances like this where one partner holds all the cards?

I feel like if I divorce him il be completely at his mercy. He’s very clever in business dealings and knows how to hide things/use loopholes.

thanks to anyone who read that mammoth OP!

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YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:41

I do wonder why you kept having children with this awful man.

All I can say is I was young and naive and I felt he offered me a better life than the one I had. I did really fall in love with him too.

Most of the stuff that’s happened has been since I had our last child - I think before then I buried my head in the sand a lot.

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RussianDoll777 · 04/01/2024 21:41

Jesus Christ.
He sounds utterly vile. Please please leave.
You deserve better than this. Would you want your daughter to have a husband like him?

PonyPatter44 · 04/01/2024 21:41

First and foremost, get yourself a job. Any job. Go to a temp agency and explain you need a job, and they will find you one.

If your kids are old enough to be at high school, then a court is likely to rule that even though the legal marriage is short, the preexisting relationship is evidently long. You will get a very fair share of the assets. Do not scrimp on your solicitor, you need a real arsehole quite frankly who will tear your "D" H to shreds. Similarly, you may need to fork out for a forensic accountant because I bet he'll try to hide money.

But first, please, get a job.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 04/01/2024 21:41

Do I stick it out bc he’s not that bad or for the dcs sake?

Christ alive, what would bad be like in your opinion? Your situation sounds horrendous and he sounds like a thoroughly unpleasant individual. The sex stuff alone is enough to get out - he secretly 'knows' you like to be punched even when you tell him you don't? Please, please get some good advice and start getting your ducks in a row so you can be somewhere safe soon.

Brindelz · 04/01/2024 21:42

He sounds absolutely horrific and I suspect it’s only because you’ve been subject to his abuse for so long that you can’t see how bad it is Flowers

You deserve so much better. I believe in divorce they will consider the whole length of relationship even if the marriage is relatively short, so well done on pushing the issue - you are in a much better position than you would have been if unmarried.

can you quietly speak to a few solicitors? I think if you know there are assets they will be able to advise you on fees options so you wouldn’t need to pay upfront. Women’s aid might be an option too? Even if just to have someone to talk it through with.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 04/01/2024 21:42

This all sounds dreadful. You have such a long life left to live. Please don’t waste it on this arsehole.

Thepeopleversuswork · 04/01/2024 21:43

Mischance · 04/01/2024 21:39

he’s not that bad - I beg to differ.

You have become so acclimatised to this life that it is very hard for you to stand back from it and see him for what he really is - a prize bastard. Any hint of any one of the things you list would have had me out of there like a shot.

Go and see a solicitor - show him your original post.

Agree. I’m very sorry you have been so brutalised that you can’t see it clearly. You deserve so much better.

Hes a truly horrible man. You are married with dependent children and do not work.

Yes he will be an arsehole about it and you will need support and a good lawyer and you will have a rough year or so. But there’s no way you won’t get a decent settlement and it’s inconceivable that your life won’t improve without him.

Please OP talk to someone in real life if you can and get a lawyer.

Foxblue · 04/01/2024 21:43

Oh OP. Nobody deserves to be treated like this. Please get out. He's so awful, my jaw dropped reading your OP. You will NEVER regret being free of this man. Wishing you all the strength in the world.

PonyPatter44 · 04/01/2024 21:43

BTW, if you don't actually know anything about his work or his businesses, how do you know he is very clever in his business dealings? Did he tell you that?

inappropriateraspberry · 04/01/2024 21:45

You should have left 13 years ago. YANBU.
If someone asked you for advice with the list you have just given, what would you say/think?
Do it for you, do it for your children - they shouldn't be growing up thinking this is normal behaviour.

DuchessPotato · 04/01/2024 21:45

Definitely get some advice on the quiet but keep everything totally under the radar. If he gets a sniff, he could start moving assets to hide them. It sounds like you could end up comfortably off, if his finances are above board. You deserve it, a fresh new start without this bullying loser.

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:46

PonyPatter44

Yes. He’s very deceitful and will often tell me in an “aren’t I clever” way how he gets out of paying things/finding loopholes in the law.

I think he may be a pathological liar on top of everything else.

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minipie · 04/01/2024 21:46

Jesus, I would have left for any ONE of your list, never mind the lot of them.

YANBU at all to leave. I know it’s not easy especially as a SAHM with no money of your own. But please do start taking steps towards it even if slowly.

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:48

Do it for you, do it for your children - they shouldn't be growing up thinking this is normal behaviour.

The dcs don’t know anything about it. I think they think we’re perfectly happy.

He is a good dad - I know that’s always trotted out on here but he really does love them and I know he’ll hate to be apart from them if we split.

He has no friends and very little family and as a result all his spare time is spent with us. He has no hobbies or anything like that.

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AppleKatie · 04/01/2024 21:48

OP, I am aghast that you say in one breath that he punches you during sex and then in the next that he’s not that bad.

he absolutely is and worse. He is a disgusting man.

if he is as clever as you say you may not get half in a divorce (although you will get some). However you will be able to look your 13 year old daughter in the face and say never stay with a man who punches you when you are vulnerable.

Mariposistaa · 04/01/2024 21:50

Leave him! Just get out.

And younger women reading please read and take note. NEVER put up with infidelity. NEVER be financially dependent on a man. NEVER put up with sexual abuse.

Anontocomment · 04/01/2024 21:50

@YouStupidGirl you realise that you can prosecute your husband for the punching and choking and that it really, really is sexual abuse, just as @GlitteryDirt called it?

As others have said, see a solicitor. If he's 'generous' with the weekly allowance, squirrel some away for a couple of weeks. Also get a second key cut for that locked office.

One word of warning - if you take those points and it wasn't you driving, you can be prosecuted, and it will be far worse than points. If it will impact his business that much, he can claim that to the court as mitigating circumstances and they may let him keep his licence. You also need to know how you are linked to any properties - does he have an electronic copy of your signature that he uses? That's something you need to find out / get rid of a.s.a.p.

If he is on your DC birth certificates, and you can prove you've been living with him all this time (this is where your driving licence is your friend!) then the short duration of the marriage shouldn't be too much of an issue and any divorce solicitor worth their salt will say that you've added value by staying home to raise the family.

But no, YANBU to want to leave. And sending 🌹as you deserve some.

arethereanyleftatall · 04/01/2024 21:50

Regards to the short marriage - with my divorce, the date used was when we moved in together, not the actual wedding date.

inappropriateraspberry · 04/01/2024 21:51

YouStupidGirl · 04/01/2024 21:48

Do it for you, do it for your children - they shouldn't be growing up thinking this is normal behaviour.

The dcs don’t know anything about it. I think they think we’re perfectly happy.

He is a good dad - I know that’s always trotted out on here but he really does love them and I know he’ll hate to be apart from them if we split.

He has no friends and very little family and as a result all his spare time is spent with us. He has no hobbies or anything like that.

You'll be surprised what children notice. They may not say anything, but I bet they know things aren't right - and will compare to friend's family dynamics.

inappropriateraspberry · 04/01/2024 21:52

I would also be wary about what money he actually has. It may all be smoke and mirrors - without any knowledge of his work and earnings, there could be a lot of debt.

WickDittington · 04/01/2024 21:53

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takealettermsjones · 04/01/2024 21:54

He is a vile, nasty, disgusting bully and you are being abused. Don't downplay it.

Contact Women's Aid and get some advice. Start stashing money away. Get hold of a shit hot lawyer.

Best of luck OP

TheCurlyKnobhead · 04/01/2024 21:55

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Way to kick OP when she's down

JubileeJumps · 04/01/2024 21:59

42 you’re really young. It’s appalling to have no control over your own life. What job did you have?
Yes leave him.
My aunt has finally got away from an abusive controlling relationship at the age of 75 and is living her best life. She should have done it half a century ago.
Call a womens aid for advice.

Flowersbutpain · 04/01/2024 22:00

Have you thought about getting some counselling OP? Just thinking it might help you because you would have some moral support when putting your ducks in a row to leave that vile pig.